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February 04, 2015, 07:21:20 PM
#42
I actually mentioned Satoshi being skynet before. Satoshi its a self programmed AI that can generate genius stuff such as blockchain.

Bitcoin is only general AI for now.

Smart contracts are single-minded even for (AI)'s; while some may have very advanced pattern recognition or legal thinking modules the "only" thing they care about is performing their contractual function. They might know major secrets, but if they are written to be quiet about certain aspects, they will remain quiet no matter what.

It can reach the point where your own pc, house, car or phone might be hired by a contract to check certain information. A high tech "wire tap" investigation of sorts built into the agreement of the contract. This would occur when the contract has started to think one of the parts is doing advanced cheating that it cannot detect online.

With respect to strong AI, Nick Szabo(as you can read in his blogs) is very close to the problem, and that's the issue. Like any good engineer/scientist, he sees problems everywhere. Yes, there are many problems before we get to strong AI. That's not news. There were many problems to resolve before people could pay a small sum of money and let a giant metal tube take them through the air to a destination halfway round the world without killing them - but those problems got resolved, one by one. Many problems do not amount to an impossibility, only a damn hard problem (which we knew strong AI was anyway).

You do see a lot of it in books and movies, some very well thought. Referring back to Nicks blogs, his other assertion, that the concept of the singularity is mostly a fantasy, Nick's main argument is that the singularity will only last "for a time", and that it will turn into a classic S-curve. He waves Feynman's name around as supporting evidence, but does not address the fact that intelligence (and artificial intelligence in particular) is not subject to the Malthusian laws which have caused other phenomena to follow S-curves. Yes, we only have access to so many particles, but the whole point of exponential AI is figuring out better ways to use the same number of particles. There may be a theoretical limit to how efficiently we can use those particles, but even so there are a lot of particles, and if we can manufacture even just human-equivalent computing matter in factories, that's already enough to achieve a singularity.
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February 04, 2015, 06:28:14 PM
#41
Of course he is!
legendary
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February 04, 2015, 06:26:58 PM
#40
Most likely Satoshi mined with a different computer(s) after 2009 and sold some of these different coins at some point.  Weather or not Satoshi is still around in this forum, is probably unknown but Satoshi probably still participates in some bitcoin related activities.
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February 04, 2015, 06:08:03 PM
#39
I actually mentioned Satoshi being skynet before. Satoshi its a self programmed AI that can generate genius stuff such as blockchain.
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Brainwashed this way
February 04, 2015, 05:49:26 PM
#38
Satoshi is Skynet
Satoshi is Kyle Reese.

From the wiki: "[Kyle Reese] also assisted in stealing and reverse-engineering most of the Skynet technology (Bitcoin), pulling raids on gunshops and stealing most of the laser-rifle equipment with his troops for the Resistance. His troops are also responsible for stealing the time-traveling technology that Skynet has developed. He personally volunteered for a one-way mission back to pre-apocalypse Los Angeles to save Sarah Connor, mostly because he has her picture of her given by John(, as well as posting the Bitcoin Whitepaper on the internet and starting up the first miner)."

Come on guys, this is a known fact now.  Wink

Today Bitcoin is "unaware" but everything is being put in place for the next step in the plan "Bitcoin 2.0" with Smart Contracts.

Bitcoin already has become an autonomous agent which utilizes humans to build itself and issues autonomous payments for improvement work done.

Read these two links. This is where the planning of Bitcoin AI started:

Tim May email: (Crypto + Economics + AI = Digital Money Economies)
http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1995/09/msg00964.html

Nick Szabo reply:
http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1995/09/msg01303.html

The next phase of enlightenment:

Smart contracts are contracts that are not just legal documents but actually active AI code. In the beginning smart contracts are just computer programs that facilitate, verify or enforce the performance of a contract. A simple example would be “digital repo”, where access to certain information or a machine would be granted or not depending on whether one party had paid the other. More advanced digital repo contracts can recognize if the seller went absent or bankrupt, and then allow access with no constraints. Over time the intelligence could increase, allowing contracts to actually gather information, check that they are obeyed and even take action.

http://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/548/469

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ethereum-as-an-object-oriented-social-ai-enabler-502359

When based on the same evidence, the predictions of the AI "statistical prediction rules" are as reliable as, and are typically more reliable than, the predictions of human experts for problems of social prediction.

Disclaimer: (AI) does not always mean (Singularity).
http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2011/01/singularity.html?m=1


@ Shattered
Update: Sarah Connor first learned about Judgment Day in 1984 from Kyle Reese, a soldier sent from the future to protect her from an assassination by a Terminator. The exact date has changed due to terminators being sent back in time on several occations.
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February 04, 2015, 05:36:54 PM
#37
Satoshi is Skynet
Satoshi is Kyle Reese.

From the wiki: "[Kyle Reese] also assisted in stealing and reverse-engineering most of the Skynet technology (Bitcoin), pulling raids on gunshops and stealing most of the laser-rifle equipment with his troops for the Resistance. His troops are also responsible for stealing the time-traveling technology that Skynet has developed. He personally volunteered for a one-way mission back to pre-apocalypse Los Angeles to save Sarah Connor, mostly because he has her picture of her given by John(, as well as posting the Bitcoin Whitepaper on the internet and starting up the first miner)."

Come on guys, this is a known fact now.  Wink

This was actually pretty funny...It didnt click until i read the the Sarah Connor part.
Well played
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BTG CEO
February 04, 2015, 05:35:11 PM
#36
Satoshi is always among us, when it goes good he is there, when it goes bad he is still there, when you tattoo priv key inside your ass cheeks he is in there also.

God bless satoshi 
legendary
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February 04, 2015, 05:31:09 PM
#35
Satoshi is Skynet
Satoshi is Kyle Reese.

From the wiki: "[Kyle Reese] also assisted in stealing and reverse-engineering most of the Skynet technology (Bitcoin), pulling raids on gunshops and stealing most of the laser-rifle equipment with his troops for the Resistance. His troops are also responsible for stealing the time-traveling technology that Skynet has developed. He personally volunteered for a one-way mission back to pre-apocalypse Los Angeles to save Sarah Connor, mostly because he has her picture of her given by John(, as well as posting the Bitcoin Whitepaper on the internet and starting up the first miner)."

Come on guys, this is a known fact now.  Wink
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February 04, 2015, 05:21:33 PM
#34
Satoshi is Skynet
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February 04, 2015, 05:10:16 PM
#33
I think he ran gox and he now runs silkroad 3 with his pals
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February 04, 2015, 05:06:50 PM
#32
The real question is: Does ANYONE know who he is, or is he truly anonymous? It's conceivable that his family, co-workers, or project contributors know who he is; it's also believable that he is the only one who knows his identity. I can imagine LOTS of people developing software and working on a project where no one else really knows what they're working on.

C'mon, seriously? The core developers know who he is. The first venture capitalists know who he is. Ask Andreas. Ask Gavin. Ask Garzik.

But they won't tell, or will they?


I think that for some, they don't want to tell because it takes the spotlight away from themselves. It's one giant popularity contest. It has nothing to do with "respecting Satoshi's privacy". But I'm sure if you asked them personally, and if they can trust you, they'll tell you. There's also that aspect where venture capitalists don't want to be associated with the real Satoshi because of public relations and marketing, which I find ironic because they're making bank off his work and haven't paid him for any of it. They want Satoshi to be a well-spoken, well-groomed spokesperson for their business instead of the exact opposite.
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February 04, 2015, 05:00:54 PM
#31
The real question is: Does ANYONE know who he is, or is he truly anonymous? It's conceivable that his family, co-workers, or project contributors know who he is; it's also believable that he is the only one who knows his identity. I can imagine LOTS of people developing software and working on a project where no one else really knows what they're working on.

C'mon, seriously? The core developers know who he is. The first venture capitalists know who he is. Ask Andreas. Ask Gavin. Ask Garzik.

But they won't tell, or will they?
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February 04, 2015, 04:57:55 PM
#30
The real question is: Does ANYONE know who he is, or is he truly anonymous? It's conceivable that his family, co-workers, or project contributors know who he is; it's also believable that he is the only one who knows his identity. I can imagine LOTS of people developing software and working on a project where no one else really knows what they're working on.

C'mon, seriously? The core developers know who he is. The first venture capitalists know who he is. Ask Andreas. Ask Gavin. Ask Garzik.
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February 04, 2015, 04:34:44 PM
#29
My theory: Satoshi is among us. He's running some kind of bitcoin business e.g. exchange.
I often see questions asking why Satoshi didn't spend his bitcoins.
This is perfect explanation: he didn't, because he's profiting from the fact these bitcoins remain unspend.
What do you think?

I don't think he is running an exchange , but maybe he has an alt account and participates here in the forum.

Well that's obvious and for sure of course . How he will make a big project like Bitcoin then just let it go ? He won't . and for some reasons I still think that Theymos know Satoshi Face to face , or at least know him on the internet for a long long time .

~ Madness

LOL noobs do you know Theymos was just a student (probably still is) when he created this forum? Dont be stupid now.
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February 04, 2015, 04:34:35 PM
#28
It really doesn't matter where he is, we can simply follow his Bitcoin. When the get sold, we will know all, probably?
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February 04, 2015, 04:30:53 PM
#27
Nothing like a good conspiracy! I think Satoshi has his Bitcoin in cold storage in the Vatican and he is hiding in a monastery in Tibet! 
legendary
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February 04, 2015, 04:24:32 PM
#26
His family must have noticed he suddenly acquired a lambo collection.

Look at the blockchain.  The Satoshi coins remain unspent.  There is no lambo collection. 

If one day they should suddenly start moving again, my computer will send me a text immediately and run a whole directory of other scripts that I've prepared and tested.  I doubt that I am the only one.

Not spending the coins is the cost of remaining anonymous.  I believe Satoshi fully intends to bear that cost for the rest of his life.

legendary
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February 04, 2015, 04:19:17 PM
#25
The real question is: Does ANYONE know who he is, or is he truly anonymous? It's conceivable that his family, co-workers, or project contributors know who he is; it's also believable that he is the only one who knows his identity. I can imagine LOTS of people developing software and working on a project where no one else really knows what they're working on.

Some of us have suspicions and speculations.  None of us as far as I know have evidence.  Also?  I don't think anyone who has real grounds for suspicions and speculations really wants to know.

The Satoshi part has been played.  There is no reason to revisit it, and the play goes on.


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February 04, 2015, 04:09:17 PM
#24
The real question is: Does ANYONE know who he is, or is he truly anonymous? It's conceivable that his family, co-workers, or project contributors know who he is; it's also believable that he is the only one who knows his identity. I can imagine LOTS of people developing software and working on a project where no one else really knows what they're working on.

His family must have noticed he suddenly acquired a lambo collection.
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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
February 04, 2015, 03:41:04 PM
#23
My theory: Satoshi is among us. He's running some kind of bitcoin business e.g. exchange.
That's not a theory any more than Christianity or Flying Spaghetti Monster is. A theory is a supposition or system of ideas intended to explain something. A good theory is based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.

What you have is a baseless conclusion is search of potential evidence, as you have presented none.

Crap thread, 0/10
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