Topic: Satoshi Nakamoto PLEASE resolve this debate? 1MB blockstream vs 8MB Gavin Blocks - page 2. (Read 5092 times)

In bitcoin world, there is no leader.

Satoshi should come and show his face at some point. How can he come up with such an amazing concept then just disappear?  It doesn't make sense

Very wise words, both from you and from Satoshi Nakamoto:

1. People are like herd animals, they need leaders. Most of us are followers and not leaders or commanders. We like to receive orders and follow them. That is the human neture.
That is why we need extraordinary characters to push humanity forward. Satoshi was one of these gifted people. Rest of will is just following his path.

2. Satoshi created Bitcoin and left it to us. That move to left bitcoin to peole was the greatest plan. He know that he could not be always around to lead bitcoin.
So if we can keep bitcoin alive by ourselves then we are not worthy of haveing it.

That is the spirit. Satoshi has the same weight as other people.

Almost certainly?
Like in cryogenics let's say?

Also, I would say that it is not needed yet mainly because tx no is still low and apart from that any change made to the protocol without full consensus is a mistake IMO.
There will be a winning and a losing side where there should ONLY be one side and that is no side
This is not politics. It's the future of money which might become the past if not handled properly.

While he's at it, why can't Satoshi tell us who to vote for as the next president in the U.S.A.? It would save so much trouble over having to work it out for myself.
/sarcasm

OP needs to consider that an appeal to authority is only a substitute for valid argument, not a valid argument in itself. If Satoshi cares to voice an opinion, it only has weight insofar as it utilizes sound logic and accurate data in an effort to reach a good end. But such reasoning is available to everyone, it is not the province of only some mystic elite. Don't get me wrong, I think very highly of him and his genius. But it doesn't make him infallible even within the realm of bitcoin options.

Probably Satoshi has already given its opinion without telling who he is.

This is why Satoshi must NEVER come back.  Satsohi's word will be taken as if he/she was a god...  Such power cannot exisit if a system to be open to choice.

I'm not sure how this is a "correction," since you seem to be agreeing that the gmx email is the one that we know was hacked. As far as faking an email from vistomail, it's not just a matter of changing the "From." According to what I read, the headers are correct and (apparently) have been proven to be from the vistomail mail servers. If it's fake (and it may well be), the most likely way it was faked is that Satoshi let his vistomail address expire and then someone else was able to make a "satoshi" account.


Mining has never been about enforcing the will of the majority. Of course, if 51% of the miners cooperated they could do a few bad things (take 100% of the block rewards, roll back blocks, exclude transactions, etc.). This is called a "51% attack" and has generally been considered a bad thing. In fact, some wise member has a sig here: "Democracy: the original 51% attack." It's never been the case that 51% of miners could change the protocol.

It's honestly scary to me how many people into Bitcoin think it's some kind of democracy. If it had ever seemed so to me, I'd never have been interested.


I have a lot of respect for Satoshi. If he considers Bitcoin has failed, I hope he maximizes his profit on the way out (and he deserves as much as he can get) and I hope he moves on to other projects.

Satoshi was Hal Finney implementing Szabo's idea


Correction: It was the gmx email that was publicly "hacked". You think the people currently DoSing XT nodes are incapable of changing the "from" address on some minor league email service?

Conclusion: That email should only be considered with respect to the content, which is not at all unique and contains precisely zero technical arguments. It basically just claims that if a majority hashpower decides to do what a majority hashpower has always done, i.e. enforce the will of the majority, then Bitcoin is a failed project. If that really was Satoshi, then Satoshi has stated that Bitcoin has failed. Chew on that. (And maybe find a different project, if you can't handle a "failed" but still useful Bitcoin.)

The point is NOT how Satoshi thought the raising process could be achieved, but that he is pro blocksize raising when needed. He already made his point to the current discussion years ago, so there is no need for him to come back and repeat it.

As I already said, there are more than enough parameters to automate the process. Number of blocks is surely the simplest, but it doesn't refer to any needs of the network in the future. For example, size of the blocks itself over a certain amount of time blocks might be a more accurate parameter.

I agree. This should be removed.

To be fair he was never really here to begin with...he showed up, dropped off bitcoin then left. We've been without him for most of the time bitcoin has been alive.

Guys Satoshi is already on Mars building a pyramid

It's unbelievable that there are so many people will lose their mind when their leader disappears

Look, I can't say that you are wrong or right a 100%. Same goes for my opinion. We just don't know for sure, both of us. I still hope a bit more that you are wrong, since I really wouldn't want to see Satoshi start selling his coins! 

Yes. I linked to it and reposted it in this thread. 

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12283811

I agree with that quote, whether its real or not. If those two people can change what bitcoin is against the majority will of users, them people aren't doing it right.

Wasn't there an email sent by an email address previously used by satoshi? Theymos didn't specifically say that it was fake, so I think that we can't be 100% if this was indeed satoshi but it could actually be him. Quote from theymos form a reddit post he made:

Also, someone who could be Satoshi posted here. This email address was actually used by Satoshi before he left, and the email apparently did come from that email address legitimately (not a spoof). Whether he's actually Satoshi or not, I agree with what he's saying.