Satoshi Nakamoto's P2P foundation profile makes a reply - page 13.

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Quote from: Kluge on March 06, 2014, 10:36:20 PM

Quote from: DaFockBro on March 06, 2014, 10:26:54 PM

Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on March 06, 2014, 10:22:07 PM

Guys... long time lurker, had to make an account today!

just wanted to say..at this point, GPG, PGP, cryptography is not going to prove shit! All you can say is that Yes, this was signed with the proper key! Unless you were watching Dorian at his house and hitting f5 to see a new comment from Satoshi is being posted or not you wouldn't know! That is of course minus the possibility of him scripting it or just giving his key to someone else..... stop saying "sign it brahhh". That's not how it works!

That's a good idea....does anyone have thermal imaging equipment so we can see when Dorian is sitting at his computer?

Simply having a few news outlets streaming live AV of Dorian standing outside (with tinfoil around his head to prevent mind executions!) while asking the "real" Satoshi to make a post would probably suffice. I feel like we're talking about some type of magic show at this point, though, trying to show "no tricks up my sleeve."

This, but to prove he didn't setup a delayed message: ask the "real" Satoshi to post a signature that includes a recent block hash which couldn't be known before the live stream commenced?

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http://pastebin.com/jK84UxYX

Well someone isn't to happy with this reporter...

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Quote from: HorseCoin on March 06, 2014, 10:32:25 PM

Quote from: AnonyMint on March 06, 2014, 10:29:11 PM

It would be important to get Dorian off the hook, because in the USA at least we are now guilty until proven innocent and the government can force you to give up your private keys or throw you in a Supermax torture dungeon if you can't (even if you really can't!):

http://www.nestmann.com/could-the-government-force-you-to-tell-your-deepest-darkest-secrets

Pinellas, FL cops have 2850 of my Bitcoins on USB sticks in hiding! due to me being a suspect in a child pornography investigation

but i'll remember this and not give out my wallet.dat passwords

they might wipe your disks before giving it back, dicks

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Quote from: Kluge on March 06, 2014, 10:36:20 PM

Quote from: DaFockBro on March 06, 2014, 10:26:54 PM

Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on March 06, 2014, 10:22:07 PM

Guys... long time lurker, had to make an account today!

just wanted to say..at this point, GPG, PGP, cryptography is not going to prove shit! All you can say is that Yes, this was signed with the proper key! Unless you were watching Dorian at his house and hitting f5 to see a new comment from Satoshi is being posted or not you wouldn't know! That is of course minus the possibility of him scripting it or just giving his key to someone else..... stop saying "sign it brahhh". That's not how it works!

That's a good idea....does anyone have thermal imaging equipment so we can see when Dorian is sitting at his computer?

Simply having a few news outlets streaming live AV of Dorian standing outside (with tinfoil around his head to prevent mind executions!) while asking the "real" Satoshi to make a post would probably suffice. I feel like we're talking about some type of magic show at this point, though, trying to show "no tricks up my sleeve."

Meanwhile, his choo choo friend Ted, is updating the forum with Dorian's laptop.

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Is it possible that satoshi as a group cannot sign anything, unless they all agree(or some # of them)?

Using something like samirs secret sharing.

Any member other the group could log in to various accounts, but to sign it they'd have to agree.

If satoshi is a group.

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Quote from: DaFockBro on March 06, 2014, 10:26:54 PM

Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on March 06, 2014, 10:22:07 PM

Guys... long time lurker, had to make an account today!

just wanted to say..at this point, GPG, PGP, cryptography is not going to prove shit! All you can say is that Yes, this was signed with the proper key! Unless you were watching Dorian at his house and hitting f5 to see a new comment from Satoshi is being posted or not you wouldn't know! That is of course minus the possibility of him scripting it or just giving his key to someone else..... stop saying "sign it brahhh". That's not how it works!

That's a good idea....does anyone have thermal imaging equipment so we can see when Dorian is sitting at his computer?

Simply having a few news outlets streaming live AV of Dorian standing outside (with tinfoil around his head to prevent mind executions!) while asking the "real" Satoshi to make a post would probably suffice. I feel like we're talking about some type of magic show at this point, though, trying to show "no tricks up my sleeve."

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Quote from: samesstee on March 06, 2014, 10:18:56 PM

Quote from: simonk83 on March 06, 2014, 10:14:59 PM

While we're picking apart details that are likely fake, @qmx.com I suppose is http://www.qmx.com/specialist-chemicals-and-products-for-chemistry.htm

OMG, Satoshi is a sentient gas cloud, confirmed!!

Either that or it's www.facebook.com/QuantumMechanix, in which case future time traveller Satoshi confirmed.

no its GMX dude

look here - http://www.gmx.com/

Satoshi renegade gardener, confirmed. http://www.gmxland.com/

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Quote from: AnonyMint on March 06, 2014, 10:29:11 PM

It would be important to get Dorian off the hook, because in the USA at least we are now guilty until proven innocent and the government can force you to give up your private keys or throw you in a Supermax torture dungeon if you can't (even if you really can't!):

http://www.nestmann.com/could-the-government-force-you-to-tell-your-deepest-darkest-secrets

Pinellas, FL cops have 2850 of my Bitcoins on USB sticks in hiding! due to me being a suspect in a child pornography investigation

but i'll remember this and not give out my wallet.dat passwords

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Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on March 06, 2014, 10:22:07 PM

Guys... long time lurker, had to make an account today!

just wanted to say..at this point, GPG, PGP, cryptography is not going to prove shit! All you can say is that Yes, this was signed with the proper key! Unless you were watching Dorian at his house and hitting f5 to see a new comment from Satoshi is being posted or not you wouldn't know! That is of course minus the possibility of him scripting it or just giving his key to someone else..... stop saying "sign it brahhh". That's not how it works!

the whole idea of us trying to figure out who he might be and chasing him down is all desperately interesting because the truth is its impossible, typical floored human instincts

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Quote from: jl2012 on March 06, 2014, 10:28:16 PM

Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on March 06, 2014, 10:22:07 PM

Guys... long time lurker, had to make an account today!

just wanted to say..at this point, GPG, PGP, cryptography is not going to prove shit! All you can say is that Yes, this was signed with the proper key! Unless you were watching Dorian at his house and hitting f5 to see a new comment from Satoshi is being posted or not you wouldn't know! That is of course minus the possibility of him scripting it or just giving his key to someone else..... stop saying "sign it brahhh". That's not how it works!

A signature could at least prove Satoshi is alive and the account is not hacked. But yes, it is hardly possible to proof one is NOT Satoshi, unless there is some special conditions (e.g. that person was in jail during 2008 to 2010)

Or just use a simple geographic proof..... which has always been done as an alibi any real criminal case.

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Quote from: Iter on March 06, 2014, 10:17:24 PM

Not sure if anyone pointed this out yet, but the Satoshi on Ning didn't double space after periods. Fraud?

Most websites will automatically truncate extra whitespace to one space.

Also. wow... Satoshi lives and is watching over us!

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Why am I getting one of those "Oh my god, he's REAL!" moments?

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Quote from: ?? on ??

but Satoshi is still around!? What the..how can he not feel tempted to spend his millions?

Not until they're worth trillions.

Quote from: ?? on ??

He's either incredibly wealthy or there's something we don't understand at play

There is something, yes. It's what governments do to people who threaten their center of power. I don't think you grok how important control of money is in this battle we ancaps are fighting.

Quote from: ?? on ??

even if he's just not interested in money you'd think he'd do something for good with it - donate it to a charity bit by bit?

He should fund seasteading and ancap build-out Tongue

Quote from: ?? on ??

I kinda figured he'd died in an accident or something, lol

Nah, he just figured he had gotten the kind of attention that would do anything to find out who he was, since bitcoin was beginning to be used as an anti-state tool by Wikileaks. From then on, Satoshi went underground.

We'll know who Satoshi was one day, because his heirs will be conspicuously wealthy.

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I want to add to my post

It looks like Admins can EDIT Comments- however, I have not found any data they can 'act' as a specific user just yet.

Sources for NING admin rights:
1) http://www.ning.com/help/?p=5568
2) http://www.ning.com/help/?p=4200
3) http://www.ning.com/help/?p=3369

More on this as I fact find and gather data.

Quote from: maco on March 06, 2014, 10:10:55 PM

Quote from: naturecollision on March 06, 2014, 10:06:15 PM

Quote from: maco on March 06, 2014, 10:02:55 PM

Two options here - My guess, Satoshi decided to go with Option A.

A) Satoshi is responding to the madness so that there is no more headaches for Dorian
B) Someone hacked into it or found an exploit to write that.

Ning was never a reliable platform even in the early days of the Ning Social network.

Satoshi needs to speak up in the forums of BitcoinTalk!

can a site admin to such a thing? maybe if paid well?

I don't remember if that was a possibility. I've used Ning for many reasons back in the days because Ning forums were very popular back in the days, up until they started charging forum owners for it. I do remember Ning not giving admins that much access in the first place about a year or two later, you had to pay to keep your forums up or something of that nature. Other than forum modifications, banning users, etc. I don't know if this account was controlled by an admin or not, but it could be possible.

The post url from today does match up to his original profile url posted back in 2009

Same url: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/m/profile?screenName=0ye0gncqg772o

We know it is the same account- so it has to be either A) it is really him speaking up or B) it was hacked or controlled by someone else.

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It would be important to get Dorian off the hook, because in the USA at least we are now guilty until proven innocent and the government can force you to give up your private keys or throw you in a Supermax torture dungeon if you can't (even if you really can't!):

http://www.nestmann.com/could-the-government-force-you-to-tell-your-deepest-darkest-secrets

Has anyone clarified if this supposed message from Satoshi is a cryptographically signed one that is cryptographically connected to his prior cryptographically signed messages, or if it is just a website account that posted the message?

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Quote from: Iter on March 06, 2014, 10:17:24 PM

Not sure if anyone pointed this out yet, but the Satoshi on Ning didn't double space after periods. Fraud?

Maybe he read that was the wrong way. Like this article from Tuesday
https://www.freelancersunion.org/blog/2014/03/04/red-line-one-space-or-two-after-periods-3/

jl2012

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Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on March 06, 2014, 10:22:07 PM

Guys... long time lurker, had to make an account today!

just wanted to say..at this point, GPG, PGP, cryptography is not going to prove shit! All you can say is that Yes, this was signed with the proper key! Unless you were watching Dorian at his house and hitting f5 to see a new comment from Satoshi is being posted or not you wouldn't know! That is of course minus the possibility of him scripting it or just giving his key to someone else..... stop saying "sign it brahhh". That's not how it works!

A signature could at least prove Satoshi is alive and the account is not hacked. But yes, it is hardly possible to proof one is NOT Satoshi, unless there is some special conditions (e.g. that person was in jail during 2008 to 2010)

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Satoshi is watching us from the shadows like a benevolent god of cryptocurrency and stepped in when he needed to to protect another man. Satoshi gets good guy award of the year.

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Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on March 06, 2014, 10:22:07 PM

Guys... long time lurker, had to make an account today!

just wanted to say..at this point, GPG, PGP, cryptography is not going to prove shit! All you can say is that Yes, this was signed with the proper key! Unless you were watching Dorian at his house and hitting f5 to see a new comment from Satoshi is being posted or not you wouldn't know! That is of course minus the possibility of him scripting it or just giving his key to someone else..... stop saying "sign it brahhh". That's not how it works!

That's a good idea....does anyone have thermal imaging equipment so we can see when Dorian is sitting at his computer?

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Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on March 06, 2014, 10:22:07 PM

Guys... long time lurker, had to make an account today!

just wanted to say..at this point, GPG, PGP, cryptography is not going to prove shit! All you can say is that Yes, this was signed with the proper key! Unless you were watching Dorian at his house and hitting f5 to see a new comment from Satoshi is being posted or not you wouldn't know! That is of course minus the possibility of him scripting it or just giving his key to someone else..... stop saying "sign it brahhh". That's not how it works!

+1,000 satoshis

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