Hi all,
I have just investigated this site and I can see the catch.
When you place a bet, the numbers seem to be "randomly" chosen so that it almost always falls on a number you did not bet on.
As a test, I saw that the numbers chosen for the last 15 or so draws were all above 10 except for one, and looking back further, numbers below ten were not chosen very regularly. So I placed a bet on the numbers 10-36, which gave me a 75% chance of winning. I figured my chances were even higher as I would only lose if a number between 1-9 was chosen, and these hardly ever came up historically. (First bet was draw 123985 for those who want to check.)
But then suddenly every time I placed a bet the winning number would fall between 1 and 9! Here is the sequence of winning numbers - see if you can spot where I started placing bets ;-)
[19] [7] [13] [30] [33] [28] [19] [13] [24] [2] [2] [24] [3] [2] [8]
Interesting how they suddenly all go below 10 at the end, isn't it! Except for the 24, which happened when my bet took too long to get confirmed by the Bitcoin network so it went into the following draw instead, making it look like I would have won had I placed my bet a little sooner...
I also signed up for an affiliate account and used this link to start playing, and the games I bet on did show up in my affiliate account. However despite losing 0.03BTC, I received no income in my affiliate account. At the very least I should have received 1% of this (half the site commission) which would have been 0.0003BTC, but it shows up as 0.0000BTC. Of course at that rate it would take a very, very long time to build up the minimum 0.01BTC needed to withdraw your funds.
Anyway, I thought I would post my findings here for the benefit of anyone else thinking of using this site. I wouldn't say it's an outright scam, but it's definitely rigged. Not one to use if you want a "perfectly fair" chance of winning!
Topic: Satoshi36 - Perfectly Fair Bitcoin Lottery, referral program (Read 13024 times)
September 11, 2014, 04:55:01 AM
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Satoshi36.com is a perfectly fair bitcoin lottery. The principle is that all the bets and rounds are visible to every user. Each number that the arrow points to is randomly selected. This is easy to verify – according to all-time stats, the probability of win has normal distribution. Therefore, the lottery fully conforms to the laws of mathematical statistics. You might play using Martingale strategy or just bet on your favorite number or numbers. Please notice that for each bet a new bitcoin address is being generated, with a history of just two transactions – acceptance of a bet and a winning payment. All transactions are saved in history, so that you can always check them through a service such as Blockchain or the like.
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Why have we created satoshi36, since there is a number of bitcoin lotteries already in use?
The answer is simple – other lotteries fail to represent the very process of a game; moreover, we find them to be not so user-friendly.
What satoshi36 does is to bring together a convenient interface designed by a good usability bureau and a clear and transparent algorithm for making a bet and following the result.
Satoshi36.com is a new-generation lottery. Perfectly fair and giving an opportunity to use mathematical algorithms and your own skill rather than face a risk of fraud, as in classical lottery.
Importantly, bets in satoshi36 lottery are only accepted in bitcoin, to make sure that the transaction is instantly processed and guarantee the transparency of the system, so that no one can block or cancel your bet.
Any suggestions, critics and proposals for cooperation are welcome!
Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/36Satoshi
We earn 2% or your winnings. Check the history of all the games to see that satoshi36's profit is 2% of winnings, and no more.
https://i.imgur.com/QdnJzU7.png?1
We offer:
- perfectly fair lottery
- all transactions and round results are saved in history
- for each bet a new bitcoin address is being generated, with a history of just two transactions – acceptance of a bet and a winning payment
- user-friendly interface
- anonymous affiliate program
- clear and transparent algorithm for making a bet and following the result
- know how the round was played and what was the result even if if close the browser
- check the history of all the games to see that satoshi36's profit is 2% of winnings, and no more
Why have we created satoshi36, since there is a number of bitcoin lotteries already in use?
The answer is simple – other lotteries fail to represent the very process of a game; moreover, we find them to be not so user-friendly.
What satoshi36 does is to bring together a convenient interface designed by a good usability bureau and a clear and transparent algorithm for making a bet and following the result.
Satoshi36.com is a new-generation lottery. Perfectly fair and giving an opportunity to use mathematical algorithms and your own skill rather than face a risk of fraud, as in classical lottery.
Importantly, bets in satoshi36 lottery are only accepted in bitcoin, to make sure that the transaction is instantly processed and guarantee the transparency of the system, so that no one can block or cancel your bet.
Any suggestions, critics and proposals for cooperation are welcome!
Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/36Satoshi
i dont know this site....this my number 4,7,9,10,15,17,19,22,23,28,29,31,34 and i get my lucky 34...and this round number 83598...nothing coin for me...
Is this scam? Like 20 latest bets have result lose, looks weird...
Doesn't seem to be very active anymore. Any idea why?
The site design is very nice, i just created my affiliate link and logged in
December 04, 2013, 05:12:19 PM
Today I saw this site promoted on one of my favorite paid to clicks... I almost became an affiliate.
But you have a spelling error, "adress"... Call me crazy, but when I see a spelling error, I instantly distrust the site.
If a site can't be bothered to run spell check, I wonder about their professionalism...
But you have a spelling error, "adress"... Call me crazy, but when I see a spelling error, I instantly distrust the site.
If a site can't be bothered to run spell check, I wonder about their professionalism...
November 12, 2013, 06:35:19 PM
Really well designed game with a great site design. I hope I will win something.
November 12, 2013, 05:38:08 PM
The selector's design is actually nice, but it gets unresponsive as soon as you select something above 10 numbers.
Unfortunately this is all you got here, a nice number selector. Is there any reason for playing this instead of any dice site ? All I see here is a 36-sided dice, which takes a couple of minutes to roll. If I missed your main feature, you should try harder to show which feature is that.
Unfortunately this is all you got here, a nice number selector. Is there any reason for playing this instead of any dice site ? All I see here is a 36-sided dice, which takes a couple of minutes to roll. If I missed your main feature, you should try harder to show which feature is that.
November 12, 2013, 05:21:27 PM
Satoshi36.com is a perfectly fair bitcoin lottery. The principle is that all the bets and rounds are visible to every user. Each number that the arrow points to is randomly selected. This is easy to verify – according to all-time stats, the probability of win has normal distribution. Therefore, the lottery fully conforms to the laws of mathematical statistics. You might play using Martingale strategy or just bet on your favorite number or numbers. Please notice that for each bet a new bitcoin address is being generated, with a history of just two transactions – acceptance of a bet and a winning payment. All transactions are saved in history, so that you can always check them through a service such as Blockchain or the like.
We earn 2% or your winnings. Check the history of all the games to see that satoshi36's profit is 2% of winnings, and no more.
We offer:
Why have we created satoshi36, since there is a number of bitcoin lotteries already in use?
The answer is simple – other lotteries fail to represent the very process of a game; moreover, we find them to be not so user-friendly.
What satoshi36 does is to bring together a convenient interface designed by a good usability bureau and a clear and transparent algorithm for making a bet and following the result.
Satoshi36.com is a new-generation lottery. Perfectly fair and giving an opportunity to use mathematical algorithms and your own skill rather than face a risk of fraud, as in classical lottery.
Importantly, bets in satoshi36 lottery are only accepted in bitcoin, to make sure that the transaction is instantly processed and guarantee the transparency of the system, so that no one can block or cancel your bet.
Any suggestions, critics and proposals for cooperation are welcome!
Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/36Satoshi
Pretty cool lottery! What improvements are you planning on? We earn 2% or your winnings. Check the history of all the games to see that satoshi36's profit is 2% of winnings, and no more.
We offer:
- perfectly fair lottery
- all transactions and round results are saved in history
- for each bet a new bitcoin address is being generated, with a history of just two transactions – acceptance of a bet and a winning payment
- user-friendly interface
- anonymous affiliate program
- clear and transparent algorithm for making a bet and following the result
- know how the round was played and what was the result even if if close the browser
- check the history of all the games to see that satoshi36's profit is 2% of winnings, and no more
Why have we created satoshi36, since there is a number of bitcoin lotteries already in use?
The answer is simple – other lotteries fail to represent the very process of a game; moreover, we find them to be not so user-friendly.
What satoshi36 does is to bring together a convenient interface designed by a good usability bureau and a clear and transparent algorithm for making a bet and following the result.
Satoshi36.com is a new-generation lottery. Perfectly fair and giving an opportunity to use mathematical algorithms and your own skill rather than face a risk of fraud, as in classical lottery.
Importantly, bets in satoshi36 lottery are only accepted in bitcoin, to make sure that the transaction is instantly processed and guarantee the transparency of the system, so that no one can block or cancel your bet.
Any suggestions, critics and proposals for cooperation are welcome!
Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/36Satoshi
nice design I will try it.
I will try it.
Hmmmmm will try it out... Do you guys have some free btc I can use to try it out?
Its a pretty old site (a few months) so I doubt free btc will be an option. If it is:
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Cool site by the way!
This is nice but in essence just glorified roullette?
House edge too high, 2% of winning 
What's going on? Decreased the amount of bets? Are finding that satoshi got too greedy?
September 24, 2013, 12:44:42 AM
Hmmmmm will try it out... Do you guys have some free btc I can use to try it out?
September 23, 2013, 09:10:37 PM
Satoshi36 to a problem made a bet and won however not received anything and the transition has already been confirmed !!
https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/cce2c892ff68230a67edc5bebeba703d152752e83405707aa19f02cada28c658
https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/cce2c892ff68230a67edc5bebeba703d152752e83405707aa19f02cada28c658
Gambling is utterly ridiculous, it just had to be said! 
Gambling is fun. Just try Satoshi36 and you will see it!
Gambling is utterly ridiculous, it just had to be said!
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