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I still don't get it why is this provably fair.

Let's take for example the minesweeper. The way you are explaining it is too confusing for me.

"Prior to every play round, we show you both your secret string and a hash containing encoded shuffle data our server generated. After each play round we show you the strings from this hash. By combining these with your computers string and the hash, you can succesfully decode the complete shuffle and thus verify the legitimacy of the round."

In this example:

client seed: 7d12b0c212717696298ddb53f3d6910a230d2b582d2a20e893121e9118bb78a9
hash secret: 96396a01cc90b32589b876d0846b357fe242dfd7670a24457bf49f9861767ed3
server seed: 4048ff404b974156c713ea0055eaad5d9fe94fadd477b95ab3a0240d5ac9bd2c
initial shuffle: 1|1|1|1|1|4|2|2|2
final shuffle: 2|1|1|1|2|1|1|2|4

What should I hash and how to verify exactly? Because I tried to "combine" them, but never got the hash... So either something is wrong, either you need to be more clear about how one can EXACTLY check (not using your software of course ) Smiley



It can be a bit complicated at first glance, definitely if you want to manually decode it, but it's possible.

So before the hand starts, you get the client seed and the hash secret.
After the hand ended, you get the shuffles (the actual outcome, in this case positions of where the bomb was) and the server seed.

Let's go over it;

First the hash secret; to verify it's legit, take the server seed + initial shuffle, so 4048ff404b974156c713ea0055eaad5d9fe94fadd477b95ab3a0240d5ac9bd2c1|1|1|1|1|4|2|2|2 and SHA-256 it, you can do this anywhere online, for example here http://www.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator
You'll see that the outcome is 96396a01cc90b32589b876d0846b357fe242dfd7670a24457bf49f9861767ed3. As this hash was given to you before you played the hand, it proves you that the initial shuffle was not altered at any time.

As you may know we shuffle twice, first the initial shuffle and then a final shuffle using the Fisher-Yates shuffle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher%E2%80%93Yates_shuffle) algorithm, to do this shuffle we use the client seed. Now the client seed is something that we randomly generate for convenience, but you can actually alter this yourself to any string before every play. The client seed is basically a virtual version of "cutting the deck", and depending on your client seed it will "cut" differently.

So to check if the final shuffle matches our outcome, we take the client seed + server seed and add them together, SHA-256 them again and take the bottom 32 bits. The result of that we use as our final seed for our shuffle.

When we use this seed combined with the initial shuffle, and shuffle it using Fisher-Yate, we get the final shuffle.

You could do this manually, or use this open source code we've written: http://jsfiddle.net/VYuH2/4/

As you can see here it is put in the javascript verified (which you can see in the source code, we even commented to show people how it works): https://satoshibet.com/provably_fair?client_seed=7d12b0c212717696298ddb53f3d6910a230d2b582d2a20e893121e9118bb78a9&hash_secret=96396a01cc90b32589b876d0846b357fe242dfd7670a24457bf49f9861767ed3&server_seed=4048ff404b974156c713ea0055eaad5d9fe94fadd477b95ab3a0240d5ac9bd2c&initial_shuffle=1|1|1|1|1|4|2|2|2&final_shuffle=2|1|1|1|2|1|1|2|4&game_type=bombs
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It was so cute to play with bc for me oh well i will do woth litecoins then
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Only the best is The be best...
I still don't get it why is this provably fair.

Let's take for example the minesweeper. The way you are explaining it is too confusing for me.

"Prior to every play round, we show you both your secret string and a hash containing encoded shuffle data our server generated. After each play round we show you the strings from this hash. By combining these with your computers string and the hash, you can succesfully decode the complete shuffle and thus verify the legitimacy of the round."

In this example:

client seed: 7d12b0c212717696298ddb53f3d6910a230d2b582d2a20e893121e9118bb78a9
hash secret: 96396a01cc90b32589b876d0846b357fe242dfd7670a24457bf49f9861767ed3
server seed: 4048ff404b974156c713ea0055eaad5d9fe94fadd477b95ab3a0240d5ac9bd2c
initial shuffle: 1|1|1|1|1|4|2|2|2
final shuffle: 2|1|1|1|2|1|1|2|4

What should I hash and how to verify exactly? Because I tried to "combine" them, but never got the hash... So either something is wrong, either you need to be more clear about how one can EXACTLY check (not using your software of course ) Smiley

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We've decided to remove Darkcoin (DRK) and Blackcoin (BC). We saw too little play coming from those coins, it was no longer interesting for us to maintain them.
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Even on my phone was like that now seems fixed.
From 3 mbtc to 100+ mbtc just now. I was betting and the si te gone with a nice 503
Hope it will come back live soon
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Why the game became 3/4 of the screen? O.O
https://i.imgur.com/Jqhw82w.png

It seems you have a very big screen, but this can indeed use some improvement, I will pass it forward to our devs  Smiley
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Hi Addi,


Satoshibet.com website says Deposits and withdrawals are processed immediatelly

While my deposit for 100 USD was processed quickly, my withdrawal is still pending.
https://blockchain.info/tx/55cdee2053249f6b6139e50c23cfb2b1823ef497bff58fda3df8967d9f8506f5

I've placed request to withdraw 0.505 BTC
14-06-24 07:06:44   15tsujENkCkTeLtwrfnxBaFaAoGr7yhwDp    


Can you tell me please, how long it takes for withdrawal to be processed?

I want to know it for future withdrawals.

Thank you,
Ilona

Hi Ilona, most withdrawals happen within 5 to 10 minutes of requesting them. Some withdrawals may take a bit longer, like for example if the hot wallet is empty and we need to manually refill this. Or a withdrawal needs a manual check to be processed for extra security.
Your withdrawal should arrive soon, for details on your specific withdrawal you can contact support at [email protected] and they will happily look it up for you.
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Hi Addi,


Satoshibet.com website says Deposits and withdrawals are processed immediatelly

While my deposit for 100 USD was processed quickly, my withdrawal is still pending.
https://blockchain.info/tx/55cdee2053249f6b6139e50c23cfb2b1823ef497bff58fda3df8967d9f8506f5

I've placed request to withdraw 0.505 BTC
14-06-24 07:06:44   15tsujENkCkTeLtwrfnxBaFaAoGr7yhwDp    


Can you tell me please, how long it takes for withdrawal to be processed?

I want to know it for future withdrawals.

Thank you,
Ilona
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We've just added a new game, Bitcoin Minesweeper.

The objective is simple, try to reach the end of the minefield without hitting a bomb.
You can choose from different grid-sizes that will make it either harder or easier for you.

You profit every time you successfully avoid a mine, and you can cashout on every step along the way

Like all our games, it's completely Provably Fair.

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My friend won 720 blackcoins witdrawed 620 but its still pending. Thanks.

Checked it out for you, this is processed. But please use our support for this kind of inquiries.
legendary
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My friend won 720 blackcoins witdrawed 620 but its still pending. Thanks.
newbie
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I'm looking to contact support about a 0.5 BTC deposit to an old wallet that I can't seem to access, anyone know of a better address for them than [email protected]?  They don't respond after 15 hours except to say message received, and get back ASAP, and that was 15 hours ago

Thanks in advance

RESOLVED!, thanks
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We decided to remove Namecoin, Peercoin and Primecoin as a supported currency. Those coins were very unpopular.
You can still play for BTC, LTC, DOGE, BC and DRK


that was a smart move. you got all 5 coins in top 100 ranking

http://cryptobettingindex.com/




i think you could get more BC and DRK traffic if you introduce SatoshiBet at their forums


also, they have big threads here, reddit has alot. when they see the site owner coming over to say hi, most will be happy a major company is using their coin.



let me know when the traffic soars Smiley
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Hey before the site goes offline, i do 2 BTC depoist ...

Now after 2 Hours the Site is On again but my Money is missing..
The payments has more than 22 Confirmations ...

The depoist are missing in my Transactions History on Satoshibet to ...

Thats not funny anymore...

I checked this for you, all your transactions are loaded and waiting for you in your account, for quite some time already. You are even playing with them right now. Also please use our support; [email protected] for stuff like this.
newbie
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Hey before the site goes offline, i do 2 BTC depoist ...

Now after 2 Hours the Site is On again but my Money is missing..
The payments has more than 22 Confirmations ...

The depoist are missing in my Transactions History on Satoshibet to ...

Thats not funny anymore...
hero member
Activity: 626
Merit: 500
https://satoshibet.com
We decided to remove Namecoin, Peercoin and Primecoin as a supported currency. Those coins were very unpopular.
You can still play for BTC, LTC, DOGE, BC and DRK
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