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Topic: Satoshi’s Bitcoin whitepaper to be removed from Bitcoin.org? - page 2. (Read 408 times)

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I also read the news about Cøbra and they said that Cøbra and Marquardt are the same individual, but both sides denied it. It seems that a lot of news and public opinion has affected Cøbra. If he does not stand up to appeal, the only way is to suffer strong blows from the law and public opinion.
You know how news always wants to get the scoop no matter how scummy they look, if it gets them clicks then they will fabricate any stories and sell their mothers, there's no good journalism in this day and age.
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I also read the news about Cøbra and they said that Cøbra and Marquardt are the same individual, but both sides denied it. It seems that a lot of news and public opinion has affected Cøbra. If he does not stand up to appeal, the only way is to suffer strong blows from the law and public opinion.
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I'm still confused... if court has accepted that he's "Satoshi Nakamoto" or only his claim over whitepaper. What does this claim really mean?
Another attempt to double or tripple FUD.

Craig Wright is not and will never be recognized as Bitcoin founder. Never. He was detected by many plagiarism attempts. It makes sense to wipe out any attempt from him or any governments that support Craig Wright.

Craig Wright Accused of Plagiarism Again. Cointelegraph is a shit online newspaper but you can dig more to find more researches about Craig Wright plagiarism.
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If he wins this case, he is legally recognized as Satoshi Nakamoto, the inventor of Bitcoin.

I'm still confused... if court has accepted that he's "Satoshi Nakamoto" or only his claim over whitepaper. What does this claim really mean?
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From my tiny understanding on how legal system works, Cøbra should be able to appeal. But this may mean to give his identity.  Sad
On the other hand, if bitcoin.org cannot host the whitepaper, maybe they can still link to it? Because there were plenty of powerful Bitcoin companies that were showing support and hosting the white paper.

This can only be understood in full once the notice is published by him on the website or may be available through public grievance. The appeal will justify whole thing, like the legal language "no part of the white-paper shall be displayed on the site neither accessible by any means of whatsoever, displayed ads, tabs, sections or sub-sections lead to the white-paper". and blah blah. They will have it crafted that way and they always do because they literally think about it based on how much they getting paid by appealer. Lolz. That's how the court works. After all they also need to feed their salaries, isn't it.  Roll Eyes
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What’s up with Cøbra?
You also should know that Cobra want (vague reveals but it seems like that) to sell Bitcoin.org domain (in last year).

theymos, the head admin of our forum, choose a good move to separate the forum with Bitcoin.org website and Cobra.
Domain name update

It is why the hyperlink to update wallet at the top is directed to https://bitcoincore.org/en/download/.
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I haven’t managed to get hold of the official Court ruling, which, since it has not yet apparently been officially handed to Cøbra’s defence team, it may therefore take some days to be accesible. The source of all this information is currently focused on Ontier’s press releases.

This part relates to the ruling (similar of course to that depicted in the OP):
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His Honour Judge Hodge QC, sitting as a Judge of the Chancery Division, heard Dr Wright’s application today 28 June 2021, following which the Court granted Dr Wright’s request: (1) for an injunction prohibiting the Defendant from infringing Dr Wright’s copyright in the United Kingdom whether by making the White Paper available for download from the bitcoin.org website or in any other way; and (2) for an order requiring the Defendant to publish a copy of the Court’s order on the bitcoin.org website for 6 months. The Court also ordered that there be an inquiry as to damages caused by the Defendant’s infringement of Dr Wright’s copyright in the UK and that ‘Cøbra’ makes an interim payment on account of Dr Wright’s cost of the proceedings.
See: https://www.ontier.digital/post/uk-court-awards-bitcoin-creator-default-judgment-in-bitcoin-copyright-infringement-claim

It does seem that the scope is restricted to the UK, so I figure that the site, were it to comply, would need to block access to the whitepaper by IP geolocalization. Since the whitepaper is in multiple languages, I wonder if it would apply to all language versions currently accessible from the Uk on Bitcoin.org.
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Maybe another anonymous user might be able to host the whitepaper again just to annoy Faketoshi. I think what Cøbra did was a good thing though, preserving his anonymity in that time because this take down isn't going to be permanent and a lot of Cøbra sympathizers would probably post the whitepaper somewhere out there.
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I'm defenately not a lawyer (far from it), but as far as i understand, it was a UK court making a UK decission that should not impact anybody not doing business/living in the UK...
I'm not even sure the UK can force Cøbra to reject UK visitors....

In my country, the pirate bay was banned... What they had to do is force ISP's to change their DNS so the pirate bay domain name would resolve to a warning page hosted by my country... They could not force the operators of the pirate bay to reject users based on their ip block... Why? Because the operators of the pirate bay were ROTFLOL when my country asked them to do this, waving with a piece of paper telling them their site was illegal IN MY COUNTRY, whilst they were living in a completely different country...

But, like i said: i'm not a lawyer... maybe someone with some actual legal background can enlighten us?
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From my tiny understanding on how legal system works, Cøbra should be able to appeal. But this may mean to give his identity.  Sad
On the other hand, if bitcoin.org cannot host the whitepaper, maybe they can still link to it? Because there were plenty of powerful Bitcoin companies that were showing support and hosting the white paper.
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The court case wasn't contested by the defendant and that was the default judgement. It doesn't necessarily mean that the claims were valid.

It depends on how the IP laws is enacted within the jurisdiction that the website is hosted in. At best, it wouldn't be taken down completely. Just that the site or parts of it won't be accessible within the UK, assuming that Cobra is unwilling to comply.
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Since when was the whitepaper intellectual property? This judgement is beyond absurd.
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In the recent court hearing in UK this clown "Craig Wright" and self claimed Bitcoin inventor has won the lawsuit over bitcoin whitepaper copyright claim against Cobra and Court has ordered Cøbra to remove the whitepaper from bitcoin.org website and display the court judgment notice and pay fine.

This is so unfortune, it's true we might differences with Cøbra over many things but I think this time we need to support him. Whatever we can do or even if "theymos" can do to prevent this to happen.

"In a remote hearing today, a judge said that “Cøbra,” the pseudonymous operator of Bitcoin.org, must display a notice on his website about the judgment, pay at least £35,000 ($48,600) in legal costs and remove the whitepaper from his site. Cøbra lost the case through a default judgment; he mounted no defense to preserve his pseudonymity."

There is short reply from Cøbra on this hearing



https://decrypt.co/74657/bitcoin-inventor-whitepaper-lawsuit-craig-wright-cobra
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