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FrozenOne

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Quote from: arallmuus on August 18, 2015, 01:04:41 PM

Quote from: ndnh on August 18, 2015, 06:15:45 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on August 18, 2015, 05:18:57 AM

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#1 Right click and it will decrease by the chip value. 0 if it goes below that.

Ahh my fault for this, didnt notice this. Kinda akward that I missed in this in the "how to play" pop up

Quote from: ndnh on August 18, 2015, 06:15:45 AM

#2 Kind of sees something like that in every app. For Betterbets, if I deposit 0.1, reload balance, withdraw it, I can still make it bet but the error shows up. Sad

This only is actually in accordance to the first one though I cant find the clear chip button ( didnt notice you could use the right click for that ) but the funky part would be after the error I cant put more chip in it nor can I remove the chip with right click button and the only thing to fix this would be to refresh my page which for me is pretty weird and inconvenience ( is the same thing happen to you ? Huh

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Quote from: ndnh on August 18, 2015, 06:15:45 AM

#5 I am not sure what happens if my bet is on 0 and it rolls 0?

Isnt it suppose to be 35:1 payout if you bet on 1 number and hit it?

There are 36 numbers before the 0 so 36:1 actually.

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Quote from: ndnh on August 18, 2015, 06:15:45 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on August 18, 2015, 05:18:57 AM

-snip-

#1 Right click and it will decrease by the chip value. 0 if it goes below that.

Ahh my fault for this, didnt notice this. Kinda akward that I missed in this in the "how to play" pop up

Quote from: ndnh on August 18, 2015, 06:15:45 AM

#2 Kind of sees something like that in every app. For Betterbets, if I deposit 0.1, reload balance, withdraw it, I can still make it bet but the error shows up. Sad

This only is actually in accordance to the first one though I cant find the clear chip button ( didnt notice you could use the right click for that ) but the funky part would be after the error I cant put more chip in it nor can I remove the chip with right click button and the only thing to fix this would be to refresh my page which for me is pretty weird and inconvenience ( is the same thing happen to you ? Huh

)

Quote from: ndnh on August 18, 2015, 06:15:45 AM

#5 I am not sure what happens if my bet is on 0 and it rolls 0?

Isnt it suppose to be 35:1 payout if you bet on 1 number and hit it?

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Quote from: elm on August 18, 2015, 12:35:00 PM

Quote from: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 12:09:36 PM

Quote from: elm on August 18, 2015, 11:56:29 AM

Quote from: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 10:43:42 AM

Quote from: ndnh on August 18, 2015, 07:06:57 AM

Quote from: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 06:53:15 AM

Wow, ndnhc hit the 90% bonus tier level. BTW, on a side note, I'm envious of your moneypot gambling stats. All green Wink

LOL, thanks. Cheesy

Wanted to check whether betting on 0 had a positive EV. Grin

It doesn't. same edge.

Yeah, lowest edge at the moment is still 0.27% with the bonus of 90% on outcome 0 Wink

let me see if I understand this. the regular HE is 2.75% but if I will hit the zero the HE will be 0.27%
am I wrong?

and how do you handle the outside bets like red/black - even/odd - low/high in case the zero appears Huh

No, that's wrong. European roulette with the standard rules have a house edge of 2.70%.

The variant offered at Roulett.oshi.XYZ has an additional rule: every time the ball lands on 0, a bonus(0%-90% depending on your average bet size for all bets on the site) of the total wagered amount for all bets for thar particular spin will be paid.

So, regardless of the bets, whether it is inside bets or outside bets, the house edge is always fixed between 0.27%-2.7% depending on your bonus level(0%-90%).

I hope that clears things up. Do let me know if I left out anything

A few case examples using a bonus of 90% where the ball lands on 0:

I bet 1000 bits on number 1. Payout will be 900bits

I bet 1000 bits each on numbers 1,2,3 with a total wager of 3000 bits. Payout will be 2700 bits.

I bet 1000 bits on red. Payout will be 900 bits.

You'll see that the bonus payout for the 0 outcome is always bonus x total wagered for that particular spin regardless of the type of bets

totally confused here. please lets try to clear first one important point. if a user hits the Zero or 0 as you call it
no one can hit the same time number 1 as in your example and a bet of 1000 bits on a single number 1 can't be paid out with 900 bits

what did I miss here?

I bet 1000 bits on red. Payout will be 900 bits.
1000 bits on red should pay 1000 bits IMHO

I hope the OP is kidding about a 2 to 1 bet not paying 2 to 1. Even odd, red black and high low should always pay double what we bet! Always!

All the bets should pay out exactly what they are meant to. The players shouldn't have to win less for a bonus. How is it a bonus when we are paying for it? Make that optional. I want my bets to pay out fully!

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Quote from: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 12:09:36 PM

Quote from: elm on August 18, 2015, 11:56:29 AM

Quote from: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 10:43:42 AM

Quote from: ndnh on August 18, 2015, 07:06:57 AM

Quote from: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 06:53:15 AM

Wow, ndnhc hit the 90% bonus tier level. BTW, on a side note, I'm envious of your moneypot gambling stats. All green Wink

LOL, thanks. Cheesy

Wanted to check whether betting on 0 had a positive EV. Grin

It doesn't. same edge.

Yeah, lowest edge at the moment is still 0.27% with the bonus of 90% on outcome 0 Wink

let me see if I understand this. the regular HE is 2.75% but if I will hit the zero the HE will be 0.27%
am I wrong?

and how do you handle the outside bets like red/black - even/odd - low/high in case the zero appears Huh

No, that's wrong. European roulette with the standard rules have a house edge of 2.70%.

The variant offered at Roulett.oshi.XYZ has an additional rule: every time the ball lands on 0, a bonus(0%-90% depending on your average bet size for all bets on the site) of the total wagered amount for all bets for thar particular spin will be paid.

So, regardless of the bets, whether it is inside bets or outside bets, the house edge is always fixed between 0.27%-2.7% depending on your bonus level(0%-90%).

I hope that clears things up. Do let me know if I left out anything

A few case examples using a bonus of 90% where the ball lands on 0:

I bet 1000 bits on number 1. Payout will be 900bits

I bet 1000 bits each on numbers 1,2,3 with a total wager of 3000 bits. Payout will be 2700 bits.

I bet 1000 bits on red. Payout will be 900 bits.

You'll see that the bonus payout for the 0 outcome is always bonus x total wagered for that particular spin regardless of the type of bets

totally confused here. please lets try to clear first one important point. if a user hits the Zero or 0 as you call it
no one can hit the same time number 1 as in your example and a bet of 1000 bits on a single number 1 can't be paid out with 900 bits

what did I miss here?

I bet 1000 bits on red. Payout will be 900 bits.
1000 bits on red should pay 1000 bits IMHO

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Quote from: elm on August 18, 2015, 11:56:29 AM

Quote from: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 10:43:42 AM

Quote from: ndnh on August 18, 2015, 07:06:57 AM

Quote from: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 06:53:15 AM

Wow, ndnhc hit the 90% bonus tier level. BTW, on a side note, I'm envious of your moneypot gambling stats. All green Wink

LOL, thanks. Cheesy

Wanted to check whether betting on 0 had a positive EV. Grin

It doesn't. same edge.

Yeah, lowest edge at the moment is still 0.27% with the bonus of 90% on outcome 0 Wink

let me see if I understand this. the regular HE is 2.75% but if I will hit the zero the HE will be 0.27%
am I wrong?

and how do you handle the outside bets like red/black - even/odd - low/high in case the zero appears Huh

No, that's wrong. European roulette with the standard rules have a house edge of 2.70%.

The variant offered at Roulett.oshi.XYZ has an additional rule: every time the ball lands on 0, a bonus(0%-90% depending on your average bet size for all bets on the site) of the total wagered amount for all bets for thar particular spin will be paid.

So, regardless of the bets, whether it is inside bets or outside bets, the house edge is always fixed between 0.27%-2.7% depending on your bonus level(0%-90%).

I hope that clears things up. Do let me know if I left out anything

A few case examples using a bonus of 90% where the ball lands on 0:

I bet 1000 bits on number 1. Payout will be 900bits

I bet 1000 bits each on numbers 1,2,3 with a total wager of 3000 bits. Payout will be 2700 bits.

I bet 1000 bits on red. Payout will be 900 bits.

You'll see that the bonus payout for the 0 outcome is always bonus x total wagered for that particular spin regardless of the type of bets

elm

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Quote from: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 10:43:42 AM

Quote from: ndnh on August 18, 2015, 07:06:57 AM

Quote from: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 06:53:15 AM

Wow, ndnhc hit the 90% bonus tier level. BTW, on a side note, I'm envious of your moneypot gambling stats. All green Wink

LOL, thanks. Cheesy

Wanted to check whether betting on 0 had a positive EV. Grin

It doesn't. same edge.

Yeah, lowest edge at the moment is still 0.27% with the bonus of 90% on outcome 0 Wink

let me see if I understand this. the regular HE is 2.75% but if I will hit the zero the HE will be 0.27%
am I wrong?

and how do you handle the outside bets like red/black - even/odd - low/high in case the zero appears Huh

bryankek

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Quote from: ndnh on August 18, 2015, 07:06:57 AM

Quote from: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 06:53:15 AM

Wow, ndnhc hit the 90% bonus tier level. BTW, on a side note, I'm envious of your moneypot gambling stats. All green Wink

LOL, thanks. Cheesy

Wanted to check whether betting on 0 had a positive EV. Grin

It doesn't. same edge.

Yeah, lowest edge at the moment is still 0.27% with the bonus of 90% on outcome 0 Wink

ndnh

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New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit

Quote from: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 06:53:15 AM

Wow, ndnhc hit the 90% bonus tier level. BTW, on a side note, I'm envious of your moneypot gambling stats. All green Wink

LOL, thanks. Cheesy

Wanted to check whether betting on 0 had a positive EV. Grin

It doesn't. same edge.

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Wow, ndnhc hit the 90% bonus tier level. BTW, on a side note, I'm envious of your moneypot gambling stats. All green Wink

ndnh

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New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit

Quote from: arallmuus on August 18, 2015, 05:18:57 AM

Quote from: clixcoin on August 18, 2015, 05:04:07 AM

Nice and sleek design but no faucet like other powered by moneypot, you have any plan to add faucet in future?

It doesnt actually matter though because all your balance is connected to all application in Moneypot. This is a bit inconvenience but for the meantime you can go to the other and claim the faucet, withdraw the bits from the apps and deposit it to this site for tryout

Found few funky things :

#1 There are no clear chip button, you might want to add that

#2 You can put more chip than your balance but you cant spin it and it will show

Code:

NOT_ENOUGH_BALANCE

Now the funny part is that after you click OK there, you cant put more chip on the table or discard the chip ( since there are no clear chip button ), all you can do will be to refresh the page which is pretty inconvenience

#3 The "user list" is kinda screwed, Im using firefox btw

#4 When trying to open the page using chrome, I got this error instead

Code:

ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH

#1 Right click and it will decrease by the chip value. 0 if it goes below that.

#2 Kind of sees something like that in every app. For Betterbets, if I deposit 0.1, reload balance, withdraw it, I can still make it bet but the error shows up. Sad

#5 I am not sure what happens if my bet is on 0 and it rolls 0?

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Hi all, i'm on my mobile now so I wont be replying specifically to each comments. But I will address the issues mentioned.

Firstly, yes, I'm the former owner of Quantum Dice. Quantum Dice is now under the management of Rmcdermott927. I sold the site to him due to personal commitments. This site is a side project I've been working on for quite some time. My personal commitments with my job still remains so do expect some delay or slow support until I find more help and team members(pm if interested). But as for now, I will try my best to support and develop the site when I have the free time to.

Next, regarding the faucet, clear chip buttons and other essential buttons, I will be adding them when I have the time to update.

Also, in case some of you might not be aware, the right mouse click decrease the bet for each chip and clears when it is 0.

Also, regarding the rendering issues, thanks for all the feedback. I appreciate it and I'll try to fix them first before anything else

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Quote from: clixcoin on August 18, 2015, 05:04:07 AM

Nice and sleek design but no faucet like other powered by moneypot, you have any plan to add faucet in future?

It doesnt actually matter though because all your balance is connected to all application in Moneypot. This is a bit inconvenience but for the meantime you can go to the other and claim the faucet, withdraw the bits from the apps and deposit it to this site for tryout

Found few funky things :

#1 There are no clear chip button, you might want to add that

#2 You can put more chip than your balance but you cant spin it and it will show

Code:

NOT_ENOUGH_BALANCE

Now the funny part is that after you click OK there, you cant put more chip on the table or discard the chip ( since there are no clear chip button ), all you can do will be to refresh the page which is pretty inconvenience

#3 The "user list" is kinda screwed, Im using firefox btw

#4 When trying to open the page using chrome, I got this error instead

Code:

ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH

clixcoin

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Nice and sleek design but no faucet like other powered by moneypot, you have any plan to add faucet in future?

FanEagle

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An a bit of sound of rolling ball would be good aswell Roll Eyes

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Quote from: WEBcreator on August 18, 2015, 02:40:58 AM

Why dont you put a usual roullete wheel on your site? I think some roulette animation would be a good addition to it . Are you the same owner of quantumdice before? Huh

yeah wheel add to roullete is good idea,i think bryankek is owner qdice

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Why dont you put a usual roullete wheel on your site? I think some roulette animation would be a good addition to it . Are you the same owner of quantumdice before? Huh

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Quote from: PvP on August 18, 2015, 01:38:41 AM

Quote from: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 01:08:29 AM

Quote from: fox19891989 on August 17, 2015, 11:33:33 PM

Hit 0 to get 10%-90% reward back is innovative, good way to reduce the house edge, dude Grin

But how to calculate 0.27% house edge? You mean we get 90% back? If I get 10% return, it is not 0.27%.

Formula for house edge is ((1−bonus)×100)÷37 where bonus is 0.1(10%) to 0.9(90%). I will reveal the tier levels later today but do take note that this is not the final tier levels as I'm figuring out a way to better implement this bonus system to reward loyal players.

it would be nice to know the house edge in detail with every bet I place.

still many bet possibilities missing

There is a notification beside your username showing your bonus level. But I'll add more details soon under the stats tab.

Yes, I'm aware of the few bet possibilities that are missing and will be working on adding them soon

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Quote from: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 01:08:29 AM

Quote from: fox19891989 on August 17, 2015, 11:33:33 PM

Hit 0 to get 10%-90% reward back is innovative, good way to reduce the house edge, dude Grin

But how to calculate 0.27% house edge? You mean we get 90% back? If I get 10% return, it is not 0.27%.

Formula for house edge is ((1−bonus)×100)÷37 where bonus is 0.1(10%) to 0.9(90%). I will reveal the tier levels later today but do take note that this is not the final tier levels as I'm figuring out a way to better implement this bonus system to reward loyal players.

it would be nice to know the house edge in detail with every bet I place.

still many bet possibilities missing

bryankek

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Quote from: fox19891989 on August 17, 2015, 11:33:33 PM

Hit 0 to get 10%-90% reward back is innovative, good way to reduce the house edge, dude Grin

But how to calculate 0.27% house edge? You mean we get 90% back? If I get 10% return, it is not 0.27%.

Formula for house edge is ((1−bonus)×100)÷37 where bonus is 0.1(10%) to 0.9(90%). I will reveal the tier levels later today but do take note that this is not the final tier levels as I'm figuring out a way to better implement this bonus system to reward loyal players.

fox19891989

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Hit 0 to get 10%-90% reward back is innovative, good way to reduce the house edge, dude Grin

But how to calculate 0.27% house edge? You mean we get 90% back? If I get 10% return, it is not 0.27%.

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