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Topic: Save Bitcoin: Ditch Blockstream and switch to Classic - page 2. (Read 1451 times)

legendary
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is for miners and pool operators (not users) to adopt a different implementation of Bitcoin

That little piece right there tells me all I need to know.

So for just us "little old users" we don't matter? Seems you revealed your true intentions right there. Good luck supporting all those miners and Pool Operators without us non-important users funding the entire thing. Your whole argument is about Blocksteam being up to no good and manipulating the system, and here you are calling for a select subgroup to front-run everyone else to meet your own goals.

Truthfully, I don't know which side to believe, but I think "as lowly a user" being thrown under the bus to advance your own agenda isn't going to help.

How exactly do you matter as a user in this context? Users have a great power, but it's limited to whether or not continue to buy/use Bitcoin or move on to something else, so not really useful in this case.

Or do you just need someone to pat you in the back and say "You're very important and your opinion matters" when it's not necessarily true.

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Truthfully, I don't know which side to believe...

Don't believe anyone, do your own research and make your own opinion.

That is my point, your argument is we don't matter, we just take whatever the big pool operators or big miners tell us to take (i.e. shut-up and be happy) That's where I think the beginning of the end will start. So how is what you are saying, "I as a user don't matter" is any different that what we already have with government and banks telling us what we can do and not do with our money. They make the rules and we just live with it.

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Or do you just need someone to pat you in the back and say "You're very important and your opinion matters" when it's not necessarily true.

Again, we already have enough people doing this to us everyday in our lives, so now we have Pool Operators and Large Miners also wanting to join-in and tell us they know best and its for our own good.
legendary
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Woah... That was one aggressive announcement. I used to like that website as it gives insight about connected nodes, not so much anymore.

If they really want people to switch to Classic, then hurry the Classic dev team to implement the changes they've proposed quicker and make their client offer better than we have with Core.
newbie
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Truthfully I don't care which chain everyone decides to follow, as long as there is a consensus and the community doesn't get massively divided over this.
legendary
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The title of this thread isn't entirely honest. It should be Ditch Blockstream switch to Bloq. Or Ditch Core switch to Classic.

Anyhew. This isn't good. Not funny. Not witty. No gifs. Where are your standards?!?
legendary
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Merit: 1561
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is for miners and pool operators (not users) to adopt a different implementation of Bitcoin

That little piece right there tells me all I need to know.

So for just us "little old users" we don't matter? Seems you revealed your true intentions right there. Good luck supporting all those miners and Pool Operators without us non-important users funding the entire thing. Your whole argument is about Blocksteam being up to no good and manipulating the system, and here you are calling for a select subgroup to front-run everyone else to meet your own goals.

Truthfully, I don't know which side to believe, but I think "as lowly a user" being thrown under the bus to advance your own agenda isn't going to help.

How exactly do you matter as a user in this context? Users have a great power, but it's limited to whether or not continue to buy/use Bitcoin or move on to something else, so not really useful in this case.

Or do you just need someone to pat you in the back and say "You're very important and your opinion matters" when it's not necessarily true.

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Truthfully, I don't know which side to believe...

Don't believe anyone, do your own research and make your own opinion.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1011
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is for miners and pool operators (not users) to adopt a different implementation of Bitcoin

That little piece right there tells me all I need to know.

So for just us "little old users" we don't matter? Seems you revealed your true intentions right there. Good luck supporting all those miners and Pool Operators without us non-important users funding the entire thing. Your whole argument is about Blocksteam being up to no good and manipulating the system, and here you are calling for a select subgroup to front-run everyone else to meet your own goals.

Truthfully, I don't know which side to believe, but I think "as lowly a user" being thrown under the bus to advance your own agenda isn't going to help.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1561
Altcoin discussion board in 3...2...1...
legendary
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Merit: 1160
Oh fuck!
hero member
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full member
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Oh well if nodecounter says so then it must be the gospel truth.
sr. member
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http://nodecounter.com/announcement.php / http://savebtc.org

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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

Bitcoin development has been bought out by a private company called "Blockstream".

Blockstream is currently paying off many of the key Bitcoin "Core" software developers .

Blockstream has directed the crippling of Bitcoin in order to provide the solution, for their own future, financial gain.

These Blockstream-paid Bitcoin developers (for the Bitcoin "Core" software) are enforcing a limit on how much information can be transacted in Bitcoin.   This is limiting the number of transactions to just 3 per second, approximately.

Blockstream is concurrently developing a "solution" to this problem, called the "Lightning Network".   This "solution" is to be placed on top of the crippled Bitcoin network to allow it to scale.   Blockstream will monetize the Lightning Network in the form of fees required to use their service.

Additionally, for the past 8 months, Blockstream has been utilizing censored discussion forums for their communication, thus preventing awareness of this issue from being widely known. All discussion mentioning this has been (and continues to be) deleted and banned .

In short, Blockstream has created a problem so they can provide the solution. And they are doing everything they can to keep it that way. (View more info on this on the un-censored forum)
THE REAL SOLUTION

Bitcoin is able to scale on its own without being crippled by artificially imposed limitations such as those Blockstream has enforced.   But these Blockstream developers are not allowing this very simple change to occur.

    Urge all miners and mining pool operators (not users) to run Bitcoin Classic.
    Go to Reddit.com/r/btc for un-censored discussion.

The only way for this private company, Blockstream, to be removed as the central authority over a crippled Bitcoin is for miners and pool operators (not users) to adopt a different implementation of Bitcoin, such as Bitcoin Classic.   Having a diversity of implementations also creates a positive competition among entities that control the protocol.   Failure of miners to adopt a different version will result in Blockstream's paid Bitcoin Core Developers to have unfettered control of the Bitcoin system for their own financial gain.

Remember, the only solution is for MINERS and POOLS to adopt non-"Core" software.

Please spread the word, and translate this message to the large Chinese Bitcoin mining community as well.

Sincerely,
NodeCounter.com
- See more at: http://nodecounter.com/announcement.php
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