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The theory for investing with money sharing as above looks easy, but in life of course there are many challenges, I have been working for about 5 years and it is very difficult to leave money for saving, especially for those who are already married and have children, of course it will be difficult, and in my opinion the solution the best is an investment that can produce productively.

You're right but the question is can you invest with a one month salary? Definitely no! You have to save first before you invest in whatever you seems to be profitable for you. The important of savings is not only for investment but also for unexpected challenges. I actually don't know why people always attribute problems to married people and assume singles have less problems. Lol
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It's a great idea if we can make it happen, in my opinion, it is very difficult to leave money for investment in the method or system above, there are many temptations to make the plan fail, if you are not married there will be many temptations to do pleasures such as traveling, trying various foods, and another hobby that makes easy money to run out.

You can save that amount easily depending on your lifestyle. If you are living a simple life and you are not an outgoing person who spends money just to mingle with your friends or if you don't have other expenses. But if you are an outgoing person who loves following the trend, then the temptation to spend too much will always exist. You need to focus only on your needs and not on your wants if you want to save bigger.
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If you are in twenties or early thirties and remain single, earn $3,000 after tax per month, you will probably save $1,000 if you, let's say, spend $500 to $800 on rental, a guest bedroom in a shared house/apartment, $500 on food, $50  on utilities, $150 on phone/internet bills, $400 on commuting costs or gas/maintainance if you have a used car, $200 on occasional entertainment or others. This $1,000 savings will allow you to invest or place a house down payment when time is ripe. Is this possible based on where you live ?

It sounds easy but most people will trap into the lifestyle inflation, so they will be spending what they earn to show others about life style while very few can remain and focus on long term returns over these worthless pride statements. You can save 1000 or even 2000.too which solely depends on how we decide to live no matter how much we earn.
Unfortunately, from what I've observed in my proximity, especially with people in their 20s and 30s, people buy designer brands on clothing or electronic appliances in order to show off. I generally try to avoid unnecessary spending, but not to an extreme level. The largest expenses are usually rent, food or groceries, and fuel. Typically, before massive inflation hit somewhere around spring, there were months that I managed to save over 20–30% of my salary. In practice, saving varies from country to country, and expenses usually vary from month to month; there is rarely a standard fixed amount that is set aside, especially in our day and age.

You can save 30% or whatever amount you want to save if you stick with the intention of saving it. Yes due to inflation hike the certain percentage can be missed but some of the financial advisors gave advise for the working class people to have monthly and yearly budget separately. But many will have their monthly budget but they failed to calculate the yearly expenses like insurance, schooling fee or any such expenses which we don't normally spend every month but once or twice in a year.
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It's a great idea if we can make it happen, in my opinion it is very difficult to leave money for investment in the method or system above, there are many temptations to make the plan fail, if you are not married there will be many temptations to do pleasures such as traveling, trying various foods, and another hobby that makes easy money to run out.
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If you are in twenties or early thirties and remain single, earn $3,000 after tax per month, you will probably save $1,000 if you, let's say, spend $500 to $800 on rental, a guest bedroom in a shared house/apartment, $500 on food, $50  on utilities, $150 on phone/internet bills, $400 on commuting costs or gas/maintainance if you have a used car, $200 on occasional entertainment or others. This $1,000 savings will allow you to invest or place a house down payment when time is ripe. Is this possible based on where you live ?

In a third world country, $3k/month is a huge monthly income and you can spend like $1k or less for your overall monthly expenses and bills, that, if you're on a strict budget and you own your own house, I mean apartments are kinda expensive would probably be the highest share for your monthly expenses.
Regardless of the kind of your lifestyle, $3k/monthly is still huge and you'll always have something left for savings here in my country, that of course, if you're single.
Yes, I don't know if in developed countries like Europe or the US, an income of 3k$ is called a lot but it is true that for 3rd world countries like my country, it is a huge income. If it was me, in this case, I could save 1k$ to 1.5k$ per month after deducting all daily living expenses, and I am a married person. In the case of unmarried people, if they have a sensible spending plan and have savings goals, they can save a lot more than that.
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This $1,000 savings will allow you to invest or place a house down payment when time is ripe. Is this possible based on where you live ?
The importance of saving could be realized only at the need of money which is why most people do not prioritising it when earning enough. In my tradition, elder people do emphasise about saving more than 50% of earning. Also, we have a popular saying like this: "the first expense of your salary should be savings".

Regardless of the kind of your lifestyle, $3k/monthly is still huge and you'll always have something left for savings here in my country, that of course, if you're single.
Means monthly $3k is huge only for singles? In my country, it is multifold higher than average nation wide salary hence even familyman could save more than $1000 if they do earn $3k monthly.
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The theory for investing with money sharing as above looks easy, but in life of course there are many challenges, I have been working for about 5 years and it is very difficult to leave money for saving, especially for those who are already married and have children, of course it will be difficult, and in my opinion the solution the best is an investment that can produce productively.
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If you are in twenties or early thirties and remain single, earn $3,000 after tax per month, you will probably save $1,000 if you, let's say, spend $500 to $800 on rental, a guest bedroom in a shared house/apartment, $500 on food, $50  on utilities, $150 on phone/internet bills, $400 on commuting costs or gas/maintainance if you have a used car, $200 on occasional entertainment or others. This $1,000 savings will allow you to invest or place a house down payment when time is ripe. Is this possible based on where you live ?

In a third world country, $3k/month is a huge monthly income and you can spend like $1k or less for your overall monthly expenses and bills, that, if you're on a strict budget and you own your own house, I mean apartments are kinda expensive would probably be the highest share for your monthly expenses.
Regardless of the kind of your lifestyle, $3k/monthly is still huge and you'll always have something left for savings here in my country, that of course, if you're single.
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The higher the income we earn the more responsibility we get to pay bill, but this shouldn't be an excuse to.give not to save money. Demands will always be their to handle but we need to be conscious how money is being spent unnecessary,  it takes discipline for one to be able to save. It is impossible to make up any goals without savings, savings is important as far as one gets income as salary .
Yeah, that's the reality of life these days. When we earn more, we're also increasing our spending habits and that's why we need to be at par of it. We need to meet our demands and at the same time if you've got some spare, put it on savings or in an investment.

It's a disciplined habit that one will discover to himself that he's good at saving. So, if one is spending a lot, it needs to be a priority to save too.

Saving a portion out of your monthly income is always possible, but if you live in luxury and spends more than your monthly income, then its clear enough that you won't have any budget left for savings. Although the term SAVE sounds easy to do, but its actually hard for most of us considering we are living in this current high inflation. But if you instill discipline in yourself and yes, set a target goal, you will always find ways to save.
It's sad that there are people that do spend more than their income. That has became a habit to them, a bad habit that they should break or else they'll go broke.
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Then try to minimize your expenses like cutting some unnecessary bill(s) and use an alternative. It's not easy to save if you have too much in hands to pay but if you are in a situation like that then all you have to do is invest the amount you can afford to lose. Since you can't invest if you have too much expenses not to mention if you are living in a high cost of living city.

Saving isn't a problem if you are still single working in the high cost of living city because you have less responsibility compared to those married people.
I just can't, I only got few bills to pay but they're all necessary so that's hard to be cut because all of them are important. I agree to you that when I was still a single person, things are too easy for me including savings. But as you grow and you become a grown up man, you just can't be the same anymore.
Well, what I just said was to find alternative but to necessarily remove your necessary bills and just like I said if you are in that situation already, just invest what you can afford to lose but if you really need more extra money, you have to find another job/extra job that will sustain and even lets you save somehow.

However, even if you are married you still can save even more if both of you are working and earning together but the problem will occur in if you have a child since it's a full responsibility to feed both that's why it's hard to earn if you are married.
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Is this possible based on where you live ?
Yes, very possible.

High salary also costs you high expenses because of the cost of living in the place where you're designated. But if you're disciplined enough and you've got goals, you can do this.

With breaking down of your expenses and savings, you'll be able to track the most important expenditures and you'll be able to unwanted expenses.
Saving a portion out of your monthly income is always possible, but if you live in luxury and spends more than your monthly income, then its clear enough that you won't have any budget left for savings. Although the term SAVE sounds easy to do, but its actually hard for most of us considering we are living in this current high inflation. But if you instill discipline in yourself and yes, set a target goal, you will always find ways to save.
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If you are in twenties or early thirties and remain single, earn $3,000 after tax per month, you will probably save $1,000 if you, let's say, spend $500 to $800 on rental, a guest bedroom in a shared house/apartment, $500 on food, $50  on utilities, $150 on phone/internet bills, $400 on commuting costs or gas/maintainance if you have a used car, $200 on occasional entertainment or others. This $1,000 savings will allow you to invest or place a house down payment when time is ripe. Is this possible based on where you live ?

It sounds easy but most people will trap into the lifestyle inflation, so they will be spending what they earn to show others about life style while very few can remain and focus on long term returns over these worthless pride statements. You can save 1000 or even 2000.too which solely depends on how we decide to live no matter how much we earn.
Unfortunately, from what I've observed in my proximity, especially with people in their 20s and 30s, people buy designer brands on clothing or electronic appliances in order to show off. I generally try to avoid unnecessary spending, but not to an extreme level. The largest expenses are usually rent, food or groceries, and fuel. Typically, before massive inflation hit somewhere around spring, there were months that I managed to save over 20–30% of my salary. In practice, saving varies from country to country, and expenses usually vary from month to month; there is rarely a standard fixed amount that is set aside, especially in our day and age.
Showing off and bragging on how expensive your cloths and things are is always been a common behavior nowadays.  Cheesy When you are still on the situation or condition where you are still
dependent on your parents then pretty sure you wont be minding about saving or something minding about investment or whatsoever and on the time that you had
graduated college and have some degree, there are some people who arent that even minding on getting a job or does have the hardship on getting one,
and this is where problems do start.

On the time that you are planning to have a family then this is where struggle starts and things should be done as early as you could if
you are really that liking to have a good life in terms of finances.
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If you are in twenties or early thirties and remain single, earn $3,000 after tax per month, you will probably save $1,000 if you, let's say, spend $500 to $800 on rental, a guest bedroom in a shared house/apartment, $500 on food, $50  on utilities, $150 on phone/internet bills, $400 on commuting costs or gas/maintainance if you have a used car, $200 on occasional entertainment or others. This $1,000 savings will allow you to invest or place a house down payment when time is ripe. Is this possible based on where you live ?

It sounds easy but most people will trap into the lifestyle inflation, so they will be spending what they earn to show others about life style while very few can remain and focus on long term returns over these worthless pride statements. You can save 1000 or even 2000.too which solely depends on how we decide to live no matter how much we earn.
Unfortunately, from what I've observed in my proximity, especially with people in their 20s and 30s, people buy designer brands on clothing or electronic appliances in order to show off. I generally try to avoid unnecessary spending, but not to an extreme level. The largest expenses are usually rent, food or groceries, and fuel. Typically, before massive inflation hit somewhere around spring, there were months that I managed to save over 20–30% of my salary. In practice, saving varies from country to country, and expenses usually vary from month to month; there is rarely a standard fixed amount that is set aside, especially in our day and age.
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This is excellent, but it cannot be applied everywhere. This will vary depending on the country and the location within the country. To earn at least $3000 after tax deductions, one must live in a wealthy neighborhood. Renting a place and other payments will be expensive, and you may not be able to save even a one third of that money. Especially if you have many family members who rely on your salary to make ends meet. The statistics are good and achievable, but it all depends on your financial life plan.
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If you are in twenties or early thirties and remain single, earn $3,000 after tax per month, you will probably save $1,000 if you, let's say, spend $500 to $800 on rental, a guest bedroom in a shared house/apartment, $500 on food, $50  on utilities, $150 on phone/internet bills, $400 on commuting costs or gas/maintainance if you have a used car, $200 on occasional entertainment or others. This $1,000 savings will allow you to invest or place a house down payment when time is ripe. Is this possible based on where you live ?

It seems like it might be an easy target but it's dependent on many individual circumstances - if you have kids to support then any spare cash might quickly disappear unless you're very careful with it. If you live alone and very frugally you might be able to save half or more. I'd say the more important thing is to learn about and choose to take on a bit of extra sensible risk by putting the money to work investing - for most people index funds would perform the best over individual company shares. Saving is unlikely to perform very well in times of low interest rates, as when rates were low you'd find it hard to find a bank paying out 2% or more, while the stock market was paying around 5-7%
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Hard to discuss OPs question or even to give an answer, since we are all different. Someone might be single, have good salary, but does spending spree every month and live from salary to salary. Other might be having a standard family of 3, manage to save every month and allow to go to a vacation every year. Salary levels are also different. Hard to achieve OPs goal when you earn $3k, but much easy when you have $10k monthly.

With me, each month is different. Sometimes I manage to save and invest, sometimes I spend more than I have earned this month, sometimes I have unexpected expenses.
Well, we are all different in terms of monthly income and where we live can also be affected by costs, including where we live, lifestyle can determine whether we are able to save or not.

But that can all be considered and according to his needs.
I myself can make investments every month even though I have a family with 3 people in it to meet the needs of a steady monthly income where I work is big enough for me, this is different from the others, so I say that.

Including other bills and rent, needs for a month, as long as life is not excessive meaning I don't buy luxury items if I don't need them then I can save and invest every month.

One more thing, in addition to being on the forum, with the payment for a signature campaign, you can also make investment capital or win, but according to your needs, it will definitely be different.
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When you are obliging yourself on saving up a particular amount then you would really be doing your best on attaining that because you do have a goal in mind which you do need to achieve then you would really be

finding ways.Yes its hard but not something impossible if you really wanted to do so but there are really some circumstances in life which you cant really avoid and ending up on spending everything you do have.
Each person does have their own different lifestyle which it is really just that depending on what you are really that up to.
If you are intending to have savings on monthly basis then you would really be that serious on achieving that.
Yes, you'll be serious with what you're about to do because that's going to be your money and not others and that's why it's really encouraging to do it when you have some plans in the future and thinking you're obliged on doing it.

Then try to minimize your expenses like cutting some unnecessary bill(s) and use an alternative. It's not easy to save if you have too much in hands to pay but if you are in a situation like that then all you have to do is invest the amount you can afford to lose. Since you can't invest if you have too much expenses not to mention if you are living in a high cost of living city.

Saving isn't a problem if you are still single working in the high cost of living city because you have less responsibility compared to those married people.
I just can't, I only got few bills to pay but they're all necessary so that's hard to be cut because all of them are important. I agree to you that when I was still a single person, things are too easy for me including savings. But as you grow and you become a grown up man, you just can't be the same anymore.
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Is this possible based on where you live ?
Yes, very possible.

High salary also costs you high expenses because of the cost of living in the place where you're designated. But if you're disciplined enough and you've got goals, you can do this.

With breaking down of your expenses and savings, you'll be able to track the most important expenditures and you'll be able to unwanted expenses.
The higher the income we earn the more responsibility we get to pay bill, but this shouldn't be an excuse to.give not to save money. Demands will always be their to handle but we need to be conscious how money is being spent unnecessary,  it takes discipline for one to be able to save. It is impossible to make up any goals without savings, savings is important as far as one gets income as salary .
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If you are in twenties or early thirties and remain single...

I'm not in my twenties or early thirties, and I am not single... but I remember that time! Mostly it was about fun and entertainment. I'm not sure how big a salary would be enough for all my wishes and plus to have some leftovers. I was always short, and still, I missed so many things...

I guess it's a dilemma we all have to deal with. To enjoy life or to suffer without anything until you get more money? But it's not like a clear choice we can make, there are no guarantees in life!

And in the end, we don't all have the same opportunities. Living conditions are different for many of us, not to mention our characters and knowledge. Simply there are many factors that affect us and our possibilities. And while some people can save a lot more than one-third of their monthly income, many others are struggling to get through the day.
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Honestly it depends on your pay-grade. High-salary employees could of course be able to save a good portion of their pay after securing their living expenses, but low-wage earners to impoverished ones may not be so lucky in this regard. When you're worried about not having to eat anything for tomorrow, it's gonna be hard to consider saving a portion of your pay. Of course living conditions and pay-grade will depend on the country's state, which is directly correlated to the education quality, employment rate, and other factors that could affect someone's status in life. So no matter how we relinquish the notion that the government doesn't have any hold on our lives, it's very hard to believe especially if you're at the bottom of the social pyramid.
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