[scam accusation] bk8 is a big scammer and absolutely not honest

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As the OP is no longer visiting the forum and therefore no longer posting, I have tagged a moderator asking for this thread to be locked.

The OP withdrew what they were entitled to therefore unless the they now decide to post a new allegation there is no case to answer. If that is the case it not necessary for this thread to remain open.

Quote from: BK8.Official on August 13, 2024, 05:00:09 PM

We have allowed to withdraw her remaining wallet amount 14,398.83 PHP, and we decided to suspended the account, we don't want to take any risks with flagged accounts

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Quote from: JollyGood on August 13, 2024, 05:04:08 AM

If the OP has already withdrawn what they were entitled to and the casino suspended the account because of flags and there is no chance the casino will release more funds (they are keeping the deposit), does the OP have a claim?

Since the OP created more than thread to raise their complaint but has not posted since 11th August 2024, maybe they will never return.

OP has confirmed from the beginning

Quote from: annskie on August 10, 2024, 10:17:06 AM

few minutes later they reopen my account so i can withdraw the money i have and it was 14k++ and i receive it

We have allowed to withdraw her remaining wallet amount 14,398.83 PHP, and we decided to suspended the account, we don't want to take any risks with flagged accounts

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If the OP has already withdrawn what they were entitled to and the casino suspended the account because of flags and there is no chance the casino will release more funds (they are keeping the deposit), does the OP have a claim?

Since the OP created more than one thread to raise their complaint but has not posted since 11th August 2024, maybe they will never return.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on August 12, 2024, 06:44:12 PM

Based on the first post, the second latest withdrawal of her around ~14kphp is still pending, so maybe the withdrawal was a success after she posted here, let's wait for her feedback.

No need to wait, She has confirmed

Quote from: annskie on August 10, 2024, 10:17:06 AM

few minutes later they reopen my account so i can withdraw the money i have and it was 14k++ and i receive it

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Oh wow, so BK8 didn't owe OP any money and yet there's a scam accusation?!
As for the closure of the account, any service has the right not to serve users especially those who don't comply with the ToS. It can be location-based, attitude-based*, etc.

*I have a service business myself and have shown the door for assholes as well.

Anyway,

Quote from: mu_enrico on August 11, 2024, 02:24:21 AM

I can guess what the result of this case:
The sportsbook provider detected your betting activity as abnormal and notified BK8 to close your account.
Remember that it doesn't matter what casino you play, as long as you use the same sportsbook provider, you are still the same person. Make sure you didn't have a bad history with that provider or abused the system too much.

My educated guess is really accurate no?

Quote from: BK8.Official on August 12, 2024, 02:54:45 PM

User was detected abnormal in JS provider, hence have been taken action to suspend and return all her remaining wallet amount.
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This member most probably got the account in other website and found abnormal, therefore she is flagged as abnormal by JS provider without any betting.

Yep, classic!

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Quote from: BK8.Official on August 12, 2024, 02:54:45 PM

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This member most probably got the account in other website and found abnormal, therefore she is flagged as abnormal by JS provider without any betting.

We are giving all his amount, but then losing amount will not return as she is already losing the amount.

Don't you have any process to prove this accusation that the account is not owned by the user itself or more likely the account is bought somewhere?

Based on the first post, the second latest withdrawal of her around ~14kphp is still pending, so maybe the withdrawal was a success after he posted here, let's wait for her feedback.

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holydarkness, Thanks for notifying me

User was detected abnormal in JS provider, hence have been taken action to suspend and return all her remaining wallet amount.
Total withdrawal from this user is 24,398.83 PHP. 10,000 at the first and 14,398.83 is her remaining wallet amount, so we don't hold any balance from this user
We didn't refund the deposit of 15,000, but we approved the remaining balance to be withdrawn (14,398.83). Then we closed the account

This member most probably got the account in other website and found abnormal, therefore she is flagged as abnormal by JS provider without any betting.

We are giving all his amount, but then losing amount will not return as she is already losing the amount.

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OP, wait... umm... with the recent development, I don't think I understand the true nature of your case correctly. I assume they're allowing you access for your deposit only, but voided all of your winnings and you don't want that? And that's the purpose of this thread, you didn't cheat, so you want your lifetime deposit plus your winnings?

Or is it you made an agreement with them that you're fine with your total deposit, but later made this thread because your account is inaccessible after you withdraw the entire available funds from the account?

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Quote from: Wapfika on August 11, 2024, 04:58:34 AM

Quote from: annskie on August 10, 2024, 01:18:28 PM

i deposit 10 k and withdraw 10k after i wager it of course so its not about launder money as on bk8 u cant withdraw without wager x1 the amount u deposit.

they want me to withdraw only 5k from my last deposit 15k. finaly i get my 15k after blackmail them to make post on bitcointalk and askgamblers ...
and yes the re-open the account just for me to withdraw and close it right away
but im not happy with that behavior
i not break any rules

To clarify everything here, You already get your full refund so this means case resolved right? You should change the title and marked it as resolved since you already get your money back fully even with some hassle.

Just move on and choose different casino such as Metawin if you want a hassle free betting experience. You have the forum to backed you encounter any problem assuming you are 100% playing genuinely.

yeah but they are scammer
why they tell me they give u back my deposit 5k when it was 15 k ? and because i have the proof that i deposited 15k.
they give me the 15k only because i tell them i will talk on bitcointalk and askgamblers
so yeah i want answers why they act like that
and as i not break any rules i want my account to be re open so no its not done yet.

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Quote from: Wapfika on August 11, 2024, 04:58:34 AM

Quote from: annskie on August 10, 2024, 01:18:28 PM

i deposit 10 k and withdraw 10k after i wager it of course so its not about launder money as on bk8 u cant withdraw without wager x1 the amount u deposit.

they want me to withdraw only 5k from my last deposit 15k. finaly i get my 15k after blackmail them to make post on bitcointalk and askgamblers ...
and yes the re-open the account just for me to withdraw and close it right away
but im not happy with that behavior
i not break any rules

To clarify everything here, You already get your full refund so this means case resolved right? You should change the title and marked it as resolved since you already get your money back fully even with some hassle.

This was quick. I knew bk8 worked hard to build up their reputation and they will not want to risk it. @annskie, you must be happy now.

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Quote from: xLays on August 11, 2024, 07:58:28 AM

I checked the domain you accessed, and it seems quite different from the mirror links of BK8. I also noticed that you have tabs open for different gambling sites like Winzir. Why not just stick to Winzir? I hope the link you used isn’t a phishing link. The mirror links for BK8 are confusing, which is why I don't play there. But it doesn't seem you access phishing link since you were able to withdraw.

This is what I hate on Bk8 or online casino with multiple mirror links in general that being promoted differently on social media. There’s a lot of casino like this in our local like ok.bet, mwin and other local casino that frequently lock users funds when won huge amount.

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I consider this kind of situation a delaying withdrawal strategy to tempt the user into gambling their funds instead of withdrawing them. I experience this many times.

This is their common strategy. I don’t have much experience about BK8 but atleast they manage to release the withdrawal compared to other casino operating this way that usually turn a blind eye because they don’t have reputation to protect here.

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I checked the domain you accessed, and it seems quite different from the mirror links of BK8. I also noticed that you have tabs open for different gambling sites like Winzir. Why not just stick to Winzir? I hope the link you used isn’t a phishing link. The mirror links for BK8 are confusing, which is why I don't play there. But it doesn't seem you access phishing link since you were able to withdraw.

I consider this kind of situation a delaying withdrawal strategy to tempt the user into gambling their funds instead of withdrawing them. I experience this many times.

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Quote from: annskie on August 10, 2024, 01:18:28 PM

i deposit 10 k and withdraw 10k after i wager it of course so its not about launder money as on bk8 u cant withdraw without wager x1 the amount u deposit.

they want me to withdraw only 5k from my last deposit 15k. finaly i get my 15k after blackmail them to make post on bitcointalk and askgamblers ...
and yes the re-open the account just for me to withdraw and close it right away
but im not happy with that behavior
i not break any rules

To clarify everything here, You already get your full refund so this means case resolved right? You should change the title and marked it as resolved since you already get your money back fully even with some hassle.

Just move on and choose different casino such as Metawin if you want a hassle free betting experience. You have the forum to backed you encounter any problem assuming you are 100% playing genuinely.

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Umm... do you mind to perhaps wait a little, maybe a couple of days, while I try to get this sorted out? See if I can get in touch with them and hear their side and perhaps we can find a mutual agreement and/or dispute resolution without having to escalate it? You're, of course, more than free to raise to AG if you want to, but if you don't mind, I prefer if we've exhaust the attempt of resolution through the forum prior to going to an arbitrator.

Let me know.

sure i can
if u can have the account reopen it will be perfect
i can wait few days

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Quote from: holydarkness on August 10, 2024, 01:42:49 PM

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on August 10, 2024, 01:23:03 PM

Quote from: holydarkness on August 10, 2024, 12:52:34 PM

Quote from: Wapfika on August 10, 2024, 10:34:53 AM

[...]Tagging @holydarkness here.

[sounds of a honking cab/uber/lyft] You hailed me, Dear Sir?

LOL, thank you for tagging me. I am now at this thread's service.

You became the heart of this board so take it easy, you are doing great.[...]

Aww, thank you for the kind words, I really appreciate it.

Quote from: annskie on August 10, 2024, 01:28:18 PM

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on August 10, 2024, 01:23:03 PM

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Have you considered opening a case against them on AG and some other sites. They may help you too.

yeah i will open a case tonight with AG.

Umm... do you mind to perhaps wait a little, maybe a couple of days, while I try to get this sorted out? See if I can get in touch with them and hear their side and perhaps we can find a mutual agreement and/or dispute resolution without having to escalate it? You're, of course, more than free to raise to AG if you want to, but if you don't mind, I prefer if we've exhaust the attempt of resolution through the forum prior to going to an arbitrator.

Let me know.

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Quote from: annskie on August 10, 2024, 01:18:28 PM

i deposit 10 k and withdraw 10k after i wager it of course so its not about launder money as on bk8 u cant withdraw without wager x1 the amount u deposit.

Yeah, that might be the case, it's just an assumption as i can't see any suspicious activity other than that based on what you said. Even on your bets history, it's just like it happens just for 3 days of all those bets.w

So, how much is still your balance on your account?

Quote from: annskie on August 10, 2024, 01:28:18 PM

yeah i will open a case tonight with AG.

Yes, please post the URL here once posted.

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You are welcome.

Quote from: holydarkness on August 10, 2024, 01:42:49 PM

Quote from: annskie on August 10, 2024, 01:28:18 PM

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on August 10, 2024, 01:23:03 PM

[...]
Have you considered opening a case against them on AG and some other sites. They may help you too.

yeah i will open a case tonight with AG.

Umm... do you mind to perhaps wait a little, maybe a couple of days, while I try to get this sorted out? See if I can get in touch with them and hear their side and perhaps we can find a mutual agreement and/or dispute resolution without having to escalate it? You're, of course, more than free to raise to AG if you want to, but if you don't mind, I prefer if we've exhaust the attempt of resolution through the forum prior to going to an arbitrator.

Let me know.

@annskie. I will support it. holydarkness is a good member around this board and he has been involved in many scam accusation cases. I think taking his guidance will not be bad at all for you.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on August 10, 2024, 01:23:03 PM

Quote from: holydarkness on August 10, 2024, 12:52:34 PM

Quote from: Wapfika on August 10, 2024, 10:34:53 AM

[...]Tagging @holydarkness here.

[sounds of a honking cab/uber/lyft] You hailed me, Dear Sir?

LOL, thank you for tagging me. I am now at this thread's service.

You became the heart of this board so take it easy, you are doing great.[...]

Aww, thank you for the kind words, I really appreciate it.

Quote from: annskie on August 10, 2024, 01:28:18 PM

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on August 10, 2024, 01:23:03 PM

[...]
Have you considered opening a case against them on AG and some other sites. They may help you too.

yeah i will open a case tonight with AG.

Umm... do you mind to perhaps wait a little, maybe a couple of days, while I try to get this sorted out? See if I can get in touch with them and hear their side and perhaps we can find a mutual agreement and/or dispute resolution without having to escalate it? You're, of course, more than free to raise to AG if you want to, but if you don't mind, I prefer if we've exhaust the attempt of resolution through the forum prior to going to an arbitrator.

Let me know.

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Quote from: annskie on August 10, 2024, 01:28:18 PM

yeah i will open a case tonight with AG.

This forum is good for you to create awareness about any scams that is happening but AG and other platforms increases your chance to justify a case. Good luck.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on August 10, 2024, 01:23:03 PM

Quote from: holydarkness on August 10, 2024, 12:52:34 PM

Quote from: Wapfika on August 10, 2024, 10:34:53 AM

[...]Tagging @holydarkness here.

[sounds of a honking cab/uber/lyft] You hailed me, Dear Sir?

LOL, thank you for tagging me. I am now at this thread's service.

You became the heart of this board so take it easy, you are doing great.

Quote from: annskie on August 10, 2024, 01:18:28 PM

i know ppl who bets a lot on bk8 and never get issues so why my small amount should have issue
only 2 ip, kyc done and i can do any kyc they want, no arbitrage, no fixed games, no shitty bets ...
they have no reason to say i violates any rules
the behavior they had are wrong 200% and i will fight against this

Have you considered opening a case against them on AG and some other sites. They may help you too.

yeah i will open a case tonight with AG.

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