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June 10, 2016, 11:08:24 AM
#29
From 100 euros i received just 0.045.
0.045 from morantis smth like half of preev value. It is ok ..more than 50% comision.
Leupay was online these days but not even a reply


First of all, the entire 100 was not me, that was between me and some other guy on here that you were talking to.  You sent me 50 Euros and received a total of around $40 in BTC.  The last part of the transaction was for the majority of the amount that you sent me and you sent a message just before that transaction stating that the amount was fine.  I am sorry that the other guy has screwed you, but that has nothing to do with me and should not be put on me.  Check your records and stop trying to scam extra cash out of people.

And also, this all transpired last week, when the rates were lower, so do no try to claim that I am now supposed to pay you more because the rates are higher.  The 55 Euros was sent to me on June 4 and the 0.045 final payment was sent to you on June 5.  With the rates changing over those two days you actually made about 80 cents along the way.
Ok.  Thanks for your fast response
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June 10, 2016, 10:08:51 AM
#28
From 100 euros i received just 0.045.
0.045 from morantis smth like half of preev value. It is ok ..more than 50% comision.
Leupay was online these days but not even a reply


First of all, the entire 100 was not me, that was between me and some other guy on here that you were talking to.  You sent me 50 Euros and received a total of around $40 in BTC.  The last part of the transaction was for the majority of the amount that you sent me and you sent a message just before that transaction stating that the amount was fine.  I am sorry that the other guy has screwed you, but that has nothing to do with me and should not be put on me.  Check your records and stop trying to scam extra cash out of people.

And also, this all transpired last week, when the rates were lower, so do no try to claim that I am now supposed to pay you more because the rates are higher.  The 55 Euros was sent to me on June 4 and the 0.045 final payment was sent to you on June 5.  With the rates changing over those two days you actually made about 80 cents along the way.
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June 10, 2016, 10:02:54 AM
#27
From 100 euros i received just 0.045.
0.045 from morantis smth like half of preev value. It is ok ..more than 50% comision.
Leupay was online these days but not even a reply


First of all, the entire 100 was not me, that was between me and some other guy on here that you were talking to.  You sent me 50 Euros and received a total of around $40 in BTC.  The last part of the transaction was for the majority of the amount that you sent me and you sent a message just before that transaction stating that the amount was fine.  I am sorry that the other guy has screwed you, but that has nothing to do with me and should not be put on me.  Check your records and stop trying to scam extra cash out of people.
newbie
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June 10, 2016, 09:44:32 AM
#26
From 100 euros i received just 0.045.
0.045 from morantis smth like half of preev value. It is ok ..more than 50% comision.
Leupay was online these days but not even a reply
hero member
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June 06, 2016, 01:01:27 AM
#25
Did you get anything from him at all after the transfer.  A thank you, acknowledgment, nothing?
He is offline since 4 of june so...what can i do?

not much, you sent him PP money, you can chase the cash through there, if he fights a refund he will have a good chance, if he took off and isn't paying attention, then you will get the funds back, pp is pretty good about that as long as the seller account does not fight hard

i can reverse a refund most of the time on my PP account, but few others bother trying
newbie
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June 06, 2016, 12:01:42 AM
#24
Did you get anything from him at all after the transfer.  A thank you, acknowledgment, nothing?
He is offline since 4 of june so...what can i do?
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June 05, 2016, 11:50:05 PM
#23
Did you get anything from him at all after the transfer.  A thank you, acknowledgment, nothing?
newbie
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June 05, 2016, 11:25:54 PM
#22
And, now lock this thread.
Leupay still didnt gave anything
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June 05, 2016, 11:21:20 PM
#21
And, now lock this thread.
hero member
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June 05, 2016, 10:56:17 PM
#20
Can somebody either bring the user https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jameslent-396480 james.lent up to speed.  He just gave me neg trust for being mentioned in this thread despite the fact that i have gone well beyond fixing any issues this member and I have had.

Perhaps you can edit the thread title and remove my username, keeping just the other guy, maybe james is running a script that lists all the usernames mentiioned in this category in a title

either way, i have proven i am in the clear and not scamming anyone, he will have his BTC by morning, slowed only by freaking virwox, thanks

If he gave you negative trust then I suspect he's following the outcome.  Don't want to speak for him but just be patient.   Or you can PM him. 

OP is shady himself,  I do believe.  Watch your back.

I was and that was the delay in the second part of the transaction to fix the first.  I had held funds in PP and he wanted me to send the BTC.  I assumed refund scam, but neither he nor I started that hold and there are no disputes, just PP being Nazi's about a transaction they think they know about.  But I took time to investigate before sending funds a second time
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June 05, 2016, 10:51:13 PM
#19
Can somebody either bring the user https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jameslent-396480 james.lent up to speed.  He just gave me neg trust for being mentioned in this thread despite the fact that i have gone well beyond fixing any issues this member and I have had.

Perhaps you can edit the thread title and remove my username, keeping just the other guy, maybe james is running a script that lists all the usernames mentiioned in this category in a title

either way, i have proven i am in the clear and not scamming anyone, he will have his BTC by morning, slowed only by freaking virwox, thanks

If he gave you negative trust then I suspect he's following the outcome.  Don't want to speak for him but just be patient.   Or you can PM him. 

OP is shady himself,  I do believe.  Watch your back.
hero member
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June 05, 2016, 10:20:38 PM
#18
Can somebody either bring the user https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jameslent-396480 james.lent up to speed.  He just gave me neg trust for being mentioned in this thread despite the fact that i have gone well beyond fixing any issues this member and I have had.

Perhaps you can edit the thread title and remove my username, keeping just the other guy, maybe james is running a script that lists all the usernames mentiioned in this category in a title

either way, i have proven i am in the clear and not scamming anyone, he will have his BTC by morning, slowed only by freaking virwox, thanks
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June 05, 2016, 07:21:14 PM
#17
No email from virwox saying it is processing yet, but there will be one by morning
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June 05, 2016, 05:24:53 PM
#16
ok, last word from me.

pp still has a hold on original funds and i am doing what i can while doing seventy on the highway.

sent a quick $3 from phone wallet

sent $30 cash to virwox and that became 0.045 in BTC after all the fees

sent that to 14NSHmMkhJQKRiFgLxWSUW26tXtSHnhiPA only to get their fu------ng 48 security delay speech

i guess that is because i used a different BTC address, which is just silly, most people have many BTC addresses, i understand if i used a credit card from Alaska with some chicks name on it, but a BTC wallet address changes all the time, my wallets mostly use different deposit addresses

anyway, the deal says possible 48 delay, transaction being checked and approved manually, this is traditionally for me NOT 48 hours, more like five to eight, usually this happens right before bed for me

so....two ways to look at it   $30 +$3 on a $50 exchange, for a difference of $17  or....

$25 + $3 on $50 for a difference of $22

either way that is not enough for the guy and I will send probably another $5-7 during the week, right now i am still driving and doing this VIA voice, hope i don't get ass raped, but i blame PP for the issues with this chutzpah

anyone paying attention and caring can watch the address, it is six PM here on the fifth, i would hope he has the 0.045 by midnight here, a full seven hours, i am getting tired of virwox, but they are just too easy to use.

i have gone out of my way to make this happen for the guy, hope it works out and if he does scam me, $50 is really nothing compared to the money we made off the BTC value increase this weekend, can i get a "hell yeah", not to make light of the situation here, but this has taken a good amount of my focus off the main stream killing

HOWEVER, if virwox takes eight hours to process a transaction, kind of make those last minute deals with BTC fluctuations a little rough, imagine jumping on that last $475 BTC and getting ready to jump the $550 coin, only to see that it will be eight hours before you can sell at that price, if the price is still the same eight hours down the road, lol

EDIT: oh and the guy is using a site called coinflux, new to me and looks impossible to figure out, but worth a glance from you guys

so everything is ok for me if in 6 hours im having 0.05 in my localbitcoins account.
Yeah im using coinflux.com a romanian website they are fast for transactions. If you send from lb to their wallet, they are making national bank transfer with 0 confirmation needed and they money are automatically in my account. Smiley

thank you for not scammed me.

i am going to sleep. i stayed 2days waiting for you. i understand the difference of time between us

k, i looked at that site, but only saw information and a chat box, nothing to sign up on or anything to do to get started, plus involving yet another FIAT currency into the mix of my transactions would make my head pop, i currently deal every hour with BTC, DOGE, USD and POUNDS, the pounds to usd can make a difference when trading bitcoins accross the water and make you actually lose the money that you are gaining if not careful,  on some exchanges and other places like pp, a simple $2 fee combined with a bad exchange rate can eat up to $9 per $500 and sometimes that is the whole of the profit from a BTC transaction, then drop network fees and why bother, like a poor day trader spending $5 per stock trade to make a lousy $7 on a stock that doubles,  people get excited about profit margins, but a true profit margin considers all expenses and adding the ROM currency in there is too much for my mind to figure on a quick TX
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June 05, 2016, 05:09:29 PM
#15
ok, last word from me.

pp still has a hold on original funds and i am doing what i can while doing seventy on the highway.

sent a quick $3 from phone wallet

sent $30 cash to virwox and that became 0.045 in BTC after all the fees

sent that to 14NSHmMkhJQKRiFgLxWSUW26tXtSHnhiPA only to get their fu------ng 48 security delay speech

i guess that is because i used a different BTC address, which is just silly, most people have many BTC addresses, i understand if i used a credit card from Alaska with some chicks name on it, but a BTC wallet address changes all the time, my wallets mostly use different deposit addresses

anyway, the deal says possible 48 delay, transaction being checked and approved manually, this is traditionally for me NOT 48 hours, more like five to eight, usually this happens right before bed for me

so....two ways to look at it   $30 +$3 on a $50 exchange, for a difference of $17  or....

$25 + $3 on $50 for a difference of $22

either way that is not enough for the guy and I will send probably another $5-7 during the week, right now i am still driving and doing this VIA voice, hope i don't get ass raped, but i blame PP for the issues with this chutzpah

anyone paying attention and caring can watch the address, it is six PM here on the fifth, i would hope he has the 0.045 by midnight here, a full seven hours, i am getting tired of virwox, but they are just too easy to use.

i have gone out of my way to make this happen for the guy, hope it works out and if he does scam me, $50 is really nothing compared to the money we made off the BTC value increase this weekend, can i get a "hell yeah", not to make light of the situation here, but this has taken a good amount of my focus off the main stream killing

HOWEVER, if virwox takes eight hours to process a transaction, kind of make those last minute deals with BTC fluctuations a little rough, imagine jumping on that last $475 BTC and getting ready to jump the $550 coin, only to see that it will be eight hours before you can sell at that price, if the price is still the same eight hours down the road, lol

EDIT: oh and the guy is using a site called coinflux, new to me and looks impossible to figure out, but worth a glance from you guys

so everything is ok for me if in 6 hours im having 0.05 in my localbitcoins account.
Yeah im using coinflux.com a romanian website they are fast for transactions. If you send from lb to their wallet, they are making national bank transfer with 0 confirmation needed and they money are automatically in my account. Smiley

thank you for not scammed me.

i am going to sleep. i stayed 2days waiting for you. i understand the difference of time between us
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June 05, 2016, 04:54:04 PM
#14
ok, last word from me.

pp still has a hold on original funds and i am doing what i can while doing seventy on the highway.

sent a quick $3 from phone wallet

sent $30 cash to virwox and that became 0.045 in BTC after all the fees

sent that to 14NSHmMkhJQKRiFgLxWSUW26tXtSHnhiPA only to get their fu------ng 48 security delay speech

i guess that is because i used a different BTC address, which is just silly, most people have many BTC addresses, i understand if i used a credit card from Alaska with some chicks name on it, but a BTC wallet address changes all the time, my wallets mostly use different deposit addresses

anyway, the deal says possible 48 delay, transaction being checked and approved manually, this is traditionally for me NOT 48 hours, more like five to eight, usually this happens right before bed for me

so....two ways to look at it   $30 +$3 on a $50 exchange, for a difference of $17  or....

$25 + $3 on $50 for a difference of $22

either way that is not enough for the guy and I will send probably another $5-7 during the week, right now i am still driving and doing this VIA voice, hope i don't get ass raped, but i blame PP for the issues with this chutzpah

anyone paying attention and caring can watch the address, it is six PM here on the fifth, i would hope he has the 0.045 by midnight here, a full seven hours, i am getting tired of virwox, but they are just too easy to use.

i have gone out of my way to make this happen for the guy, hope it works out and if he does scam me, $50 is really nothing compared to the money we made off the BTC value increase this weekend, can i get a "hell yeah", not to make light of the situation here, but this has taken a good amount of my focus off the main stream killing

HOWEVER, if virwox takes eight hours to process a transaction, kind of make those last minute deals with BTC fluctuations a little rough, imagine jumping on that last $475 BTC and getting ready to jump the $550 coin, only to see that it will be eight hours before you can sell at that price, if the price is still the same eight hours down the road, lol

EDIT: oh and the guy is using a site called coinflux, new to me and looks impossible to figure out, but worth a glance from you guys
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June 05, 2016, 04:28:07 PM
#13
this money are more than nothing. please just send this and we are fine Smiley . Thank you.


Please red trust leupay. He's not answering for 2 days at messages

i understand the situation, but the trust system is for one person doing business with another and he has done no direct business with me, we cannot gang up on those that we disapprove of and frankly, i have no idea what happened with you and him, so i have no clue about him
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June 05, 2016, 04:19:49 PM
#12
this money are more than nothing. please just send this and we are fine Smiley . Thank you.


Please red trust leupay. He's not answering for 2 days at messages
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June 05, 2016, 04:17:32 PM
#11
Possible Update....http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/5606878122.html

Please note the reply I just made to the other member, this is for overall Paypal information, as well as the thread here...


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I did not do the dispute.  I assumed you did.  The odd thing is that the transaction is holding, as if under dispute, but I have no dispute cases, active or otherwise.  The very bad thing that could be going down is a hold directly from Paypal, based on the fact that you are in some mid European country and I am in the USA.  Add to that the fact that I get so many transactions from different people and almost immediately move the money to a different account may be raising suspicion on their part.

Listen carefully.  If this is the case and they contact you asking about this transaction, I built a website for you and you paid $50.  You have the files, sent to you via email and all is fine.  The website has not been deployed and we met on a forum about web design, not on bitcointalk.org.  

If they ask you, this transaction has nothing at all to do with BTC, bitcoins, altcoins or cryptocurrency, FIAT exchagnge or anything to do with currency.  You paid me for a website that I built you and you are very happy.  DO NOT MENTION bitcoins.  I will call them later in the day and see what the deal is.

No matter what....I will handle this and make sure you get your funds.  If not directly from Paypal, then one way or another.  I have had Paypal hold transactions before for security reasons, but usually large transactions.  Of course, with all the altcoin shit, they are surely getting skippy and I immediately moved the funds to an account that then funded a similar transaction on virwox.  
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This may be the end of the line for Paypal and Bitcoin.  At least the beginning of the end.  Or they just don't like my transaction and are holding funds for a day or two.  Either way, I will take care of you in the end.  Posting a copy of this message to both the accusation thread and a new thread about Paypal to keep people posted.

I didn't started a dispute!!!
I knew there is a time difference i was still waiting for money from you. now in romania is 11:37 pm so...
I am either being suckered or just a fool, but I sent a few BTC from my mobile wallet, not much, all that was in there was $3.  I can send you $28 from USD right now or I can try to convert and send them from my phone.  If I convert them to BTC, it will take at least an hour to get to you, so pick an option and do not complain about time, this is also hard to do while driving on the highway.

so localbitcoins changed my btc adress: 14NSHmMkhJQKRiFgLxWSUW26tXtSHnhiPA
i received 0.005 btc from you.: https://www.localbitcoinschain.com/address/1KN5Ty8e7ARu51maqN89RPMhHJSde45PWe?filter=2

i removed the red trust.

I am going to kick myself in the ass, i can send you $28 to paypal or through conversion to BTC while i am driving and not take out too many cars, that is nearly $50 between the two, well ten bucks short, which is it, PP or BTC and this is all while your pp funds are still being held

send btc. because i have nothing to do with paypal. i have a mastercard i need 2-3 days to withdraw to my card ...thats why i want btc. i can lost 10$ ... just send to me that 28$

just bear in mind that the exchange takes time, the other day there was that security, today most likely simply a 45 min wait for confirmations
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June 05, 2016, 04:15:51 PM
#10
Possible Update....

Please note the reply I just made to the other member, this is for overall Paypal information, as well as the thread here...


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I did not do the dispute.  I assumed you did.  The odd thing is that the transaction is holding, as if under dispute, but I have no dispute cases, active or otherwise.  The very bad thing that could be going down is a hold directly from Paypal, based on the fact that you are in some mid European country and I am in the USA.  Add to that the fact that I get so many transactions from different people and almost immediately move the money to a different account may be raising suspicion on their part.

Listen carefully.  If this is the case and they contact you asking about this transaction, I built a website for you and you paid $50.  You have the files, sent to you via email and all is fine.  The website has not been deployed and we met on a forum about web design, not on bitcointalk.org.  

If they ask you, this transaction has nothing at all to do with BTC, bitcoins, altcoins or cryptocurrency, FIAT exchagnge or anything to do with currency.  You paid me for a website that I built you and you are very happy.  DO NOT MENTION bitcoins.  I will call them later in the day and see what the deal is.

No matter what....I will handle this and make sure you get your funds.  If not directly from Paypal, then one way or another.  I have had Paypal hold transactions before for security reasons, but usually large transactions.  Of course, with all the altcoin shit, they are surely getting skippy and I immediately moved the funds to an account that then funded a similar transaction on virwox.  
\
This may be the end of the line for Paypal and Bitcoin.  At least the beginning of the end.  Or they just don't like my transaction and are holding funds for a day or two.  Either way, I will take care of you in the end.  Posting a copy of this message to both the accusation thread and a new thread about Paypal to keep people posted.

I didn't started a dispute!!!
I knew there is a time difference i was still waiting for money from you. now in romania is 11:37 pm so...
I am either being suckered or just a fool, but I sent a few BTC from my mobile wallet, not much, all that was in there was $3.  I can send you $28 from USD right now or I can try to convert and send them from my phone.  If I convert them to BTC, it will take at least an hour to get to you, so pick an option and do not complain about time, this is also hard to do while driving on the highway.

so localbitcoins changed my btc adress: 14NSHmMkhJQKRiFgLxWSUW26tXtSHnhiPA
i received 0.005 btc from you.: https://www.localbitcoinschain.com/address/1KN5Ty8e7ARu51maqN89RPMhHJSde45PWe?filter=2

i removed the red trust.

I am going to kick myself in the ass, i can send you $28 to paypal or through conversion to BTC while i am driving and not take out too many cars, that is nearly $50 between the two, well ten bucks short, which is it, PP or BTC and this is all while your pp funds are still being held

send btc. because i have nothing to do with paypal. i have a mastercard i need 2-3 days to withdraw to my card ...thats why i want btc. i can lost 10$ ... just send to me that 28$
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