SCAM: Anonymous-casino.com (a-c.bet) refuses to pay $17,000

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Quote from: SammyGambler on February 10, 2024, 07:52:06 AM

Quote from: holydarkness on February 09, 2024, 10:25:33 AM

Have you tried providing screenshot of your withdrawal history like I suggested above? Though it's a bit far fetched, probably analyzing a Blockchain flow is a bit... way above the capability of their support staff, and they handle the situation themselves instead of forwarding it to their Blockchain analyst. Providing a more direct evidence will probably help. It doesn't hurt to try, anyway.

They have completely blocked my account so I can’t do any screenshots. I’ve never made a withdrawal before they closed my account.

Sorry for being a bit unclear. I am referring to withdrawal page from your account on the exchange, where you send your fund to be deposited to the anonymous-casino. If they suspect you a double-spend, unless I'm wrong, there should be two withdrawals made from that exchange in a relatively short time.

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Quote from: holydarkness on February 09, 2024, 10:25:33 AM

Quote from: SammyGambler on February 09, 2024, 07:19:07 AM

The casino is literally making up excuses with fake transaction Id’s. I have provided the blockchain showing all
My transactions going into the single bitcoin wallet provided by the casino for my deposits. They are making things up and I have done absolutely nothing wrong.

Proof of all my deposits: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/3JFZZuShh2zNoSY5JhsJsRJmbDJ27FKAVX

Have you tried providing screenshot of your withdrawal history like I suggested above? Though it's a bit far fetched, probably analyzing a Blockchain flow is a bit... way above the capability of their support staff, and they handle the situation themselves instead of forwarding it to their Blockchain analyst. Providing a more direct evidence will probably help. It doesn't hurt to try, anyway.

They have completely blocked my account so I can’t do any screenshots. I’ve never made a withdrawal before they closed my account.

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Quote from: Potato Chips on February 09, 2024, 09:52:00 PM

Good idea! I'll leave that to you 🫡

PM sent. I somewhat doubt they'll come here and address their relation with A-C, though. I also noticed --after sending them the PM-- that the issue has been brought to their awareness through posts on their ANN.

Quote from: Potato Chips on February 09, 2024, 09:52:00 PM

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Oh so this happened around the time ANN was edited + I couldn't help but notice the latest posts in the ANN from LTC Casino were all edited around the same time as well -- I compared the posts on ninjastic and couldn't find any difference. They were probably tryin to do something but changed their mind at the end 🤔

[...]

It's the banner. The original post had a banner.

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Quote from: holydarkness on February 09, 2024, 04:28:22 PM

Chips, have you contacted LTC Casino and ask for their side of this story? I'll probably will try to reach them about this if you haven't already.

Good idea! I'll leave that to you 🫡

Quote from: Stalker22 on February 09, 2024, 04:30:18 PM

Their main domain (ltccasino.com) is down, and they initially posted a notice redirecting players to a new .io domain, but later removed it.

Oh so this happened around the time ANN was edited + I couldn't help but notice the latest posts in the ANN from LTC Casino were all edited around the same time as well -- I compared the posts on ninjastic and couldn't find any difference. They were probably tryin to do something but changed their mind at the end 🤔

The .io domain seems legit cause it was also posted on their social handles

https://twitter.com/ltccasino_/status/1755321951353016432
https://www.facebook.com/ltc.casino.official
https://t.me/s/ltccasino (anyone can preview)

Got them from: https://web.archive.org/web/20231203043503mp_/https://www.ltccasino.com/about-us

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Quote from: holydarkness on February 09, 2024, 04:41:28 PM

Though ltccasino's trust page shows that their email address was changed recently, I don't think someone hacked into the account and is the one responsible editing above post.

Not just that, looking at their past trust feedback (negative and neutral). It can not be a coincidence. There is no way I am trusting such a casino with my funds. It all just seems like they are waiting for one huge deposit before they pull off an exit scam.

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Quote from: Stalker22 on February 09, 2024, 04:30:18 PM

Wtf is going on with LTC casino?

Their main domain (ltccasino.com) is down, and they initially posted a notice redirecting players to a new .io domain, but later removed it.

Now, they have gone even further by completely changing the title and first post of their ANN thread to Anonymous-Casino.com.

Never heard of ltccasino before this... or maybe heard about it here and then, but it failed to be committed to my memory, so I don't have any idea of how they work and their reputation. Speaking strictly on this, could they be... merging? A-C acquired them?

Though ltccasino's trust page shows that their email address was changed recently, I don't think someone hacked into the account and is the one responsible editing above post.

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Quote from: Potato Chips on February 09, 2024, 03:33:20 PM

BTW, I found anonymous-casino on ltccasino's ANN thread.

Quote from: https://archive.is/2dN5l#selection-613.0-621.20

Let me introduce absolutly new, revolutionary crypto casino - Anonymous-Casino.com

Does anyone know if they are confirmed to be related? or this is the first case hinting they could be?

Wtf is going on with LTC casino?

Their main domain (ltccasino.com) is down, and they initially posted a notice redirecting players to a new .io domain, but later removed it.

Now, they have gone even further by completely changing the title and first post of their ANN thread to Anonymous-Casino.com.

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Quote from: Potato Chips on February 09, 2024, 03:33:20 PM

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BTW, I found anonymous-casino on ltccasino's ANN thread.

Quote from: https://archive.is/2dN5l#selection-613.0-621.20

Let me introduce absolutly new, revolutionary crypto casino - Anonymous-Casino.com

Does anyone know if they are confirmed to be related? or this is the first case hinting they could be?

It's interesting dig, LTC Casino was, in fact, promoted their own website before. That thread was talking about their own casino, "ltccasino", and today they made a slight edit and replace the URL to anonymous-casino.

Chips, have you contacted LTC Casino and ask for their side of this story? I'll probably will try to reach them about this if you haven't already.

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Quote from: SammyGambler on February 08, 2024, 03:51:36 PM

When I pressed the casino for proof, they replied with this email. None of these transaction ID’s even exists. I have clearly shown that I have deposited $12,868.01 and the casino has received it. Proof: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/3JFZZuShh2zNoSY5JhsJsRJmbDJ27FKAVX

The account you are referring to is disabled because of fraudulent transactions (double spending). Please see the transaction IDs of the double spending:
...

Took a quick look and these transactions have been replaced to bump miner fees so they aren't fake but are all invalid/dropped for too long so you can't view it on some block explorers. They do show up on blockchain.com.

e.g.
Invalid: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/681686496c9ffb202ade296347944081edc8b3f19083458c258802cd506c7986
replaced with: https://mempool.space/tx/904bbfa86f1c468db6ebfac214c6db304349210e6a5477f687dc9449d3e1edc4

This should've been fine but since they have a dumb rule of trusting 0 confirmation transactions, check if they credited you twice for each deposit as suggested by holydarkness as well.

Quote from: https://www.anonymous-casino.com/FAQ

We have 0-confirmation on deposits. Just transfer coins to that address and they will appear in your casino balance instantly!

BTW, I found anonymous-casino on ltccasino's ANN thread.

Quote from: https://archive.is/2dN5l#selection-613.0-621.20

Let me introduce absolutly new, revolutionary crypto casino - Anonymous-Casino.com

Does anyone know if they are confirmed to be related? or this is the first case hinting they could be?

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Quote from: SammyGambler on February 09, 2024, 07:19:07 AM

The casino is literally making up excuses with fake transaction Id’s. I have provided the blockchain showing all
My transactions going into the single bitcoin wallet provided by the casino for my deposits. They are making things up and I have done absolutely nothing wrong.

Proof of all my deposits: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/3JFZZuShh2zNoSY5JhsJsRJmbDJ27FKAVX

Have you tried providing screenshot of your withdrawal history like I suggested above? Though it's a bit far fetched, probably analyzing a Blockchain flow is a bit... way above the capability of their support staff, and they handle the situation themselves instead of forwarding it to their Blockchain analyst. Providing a more direct evidence will probably help. It doesn't hurt to try, anyway.

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The casino is literally making up excuses with fake transaction Id’s. I have provided the blockchain showing all
My transactions going into the single bitcoin wallet provided by the casino for my deposits. They are making things up and I have done absolutely nothing wrong.

Proof of all my deposits: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/3JFZZuShh2zNoSY5JhsJsRJmbDJ27FKAVX

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Quote from: SammyGambler on February 08, 2024, 03:51:36 PM

When I pressed the casino for proof, they replied with this email. None of these transaction ID’s even exists. I have clearly shown that I have deposited $12,868.01 and the casino has received it. Proof: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/3JFZZuShh2zNoSY5JhsJsRJmbDJ27FKAVX

Email from casino on 2/8/2024

“Dear player,

The account you are referring to is disabled because of fraudulent transactions (double spending). Please see the transaction IDs of the double spending:

1) 681686496c9ffb202ade296347944081edc8b3f19083458c258802cd506c7986 Double spend 0.01162665 BTC

2) 9f5a9b5fb9b12f25674fd4f82ddc7bb52dde9ac2dbed1fc9e7cea0b15aae208e Double spend 0.0464777 BTC

3) 917ace8951b9e464c1f8a1d989eb02cc7004360aaaf5254a65cf2ad9f72f4ca6 Double spend 0.01162665 BTC

4) 9cb65cd53d1c40da734167a9ad6e6d7cf0202ba791ea7042d6711fc103fb5da9 Double spend 0.0464777 BTC

You played with that money, but the casino never received it. “

Have you tried to send them a screenshot of your withdrawal from the exchange? Unless I understand it wrongly, if the fund was double-spent intentionally, there should be two withdrawal at the same time. At the very least, it should at least prove that you don't have control over the tx-fee and the flow of the fund, given everything is controlled by the exchange.

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When I pressed the casino for proof, they replied with this email. None of these transaction ID’s even exists. I have clearly shown that I have deposited $12,868.01 and the casino has received it. Proof: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/3JFZZuShh2zNoSY5JhsJsRJmbDJ27FKAVX

Email from casino on 2/8/2024

“Dear player,

The account you are referring to is disabled because of fraudulent transactions (double spending). Please see the transaction IDs of the double spending:

1) 681686496c9ffb202ade296347944081edc8b3f19083458c258802cd506c7986 Double spend 0.01162665 BTC

2) 9f5a9b5fb9b12f25674fd4f82ddc7bb52dde9ac2dbed1fc9e7cea0b15aae208e Double spend 0.0464777 BTC

3) 917ace8951b9e464c1f8a1d989eb02cc7004360aaaf5254a65cf2ad9f72f4ca6 Double spend 0.01162665 BTC

4) 9cb65cd53d1c40da734167a9ad6e6d7cf0202ba791ea7042d6711fc103fb5da9 Double spend 0.0464777 BTC

You played with that money, but the casino never received it. “

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Quote from: Potato Chips on February 07, 2024, 05:20:20 PM

But I'm not sure how a CPFP could be taken as suspicion of attempting to double spend.

Because you're not replacing a transaction/spending the same input/s. Instead, someone who owns an unconfirmed output from the parent transaction spends it in another transaction with a bigger miner fee covering both of them -- child and the parent.

I know, I get that. Perhaps it's just just the information they received from a faulty set-up system they are using that triggered a doublespent error. Or it's intentionally set up that way.

Quote from: notblox1 on February 07, 2024, 06:43:02 PM

Why do you even play on suspicious casinos like this? And how did you find about them?
They are not available in bitcointalk forum, or any other forum I am using, and I never heard about them before.

They have a thread on Bitcointalk dating back to 2020.
(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5293254) However, the thread hasn't seen any new posts since December 2020, which is also the last time the OP and their forum representative was online.

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Quote from: SammyGambler on February 03, 2024, 01:15:20 PM

I won fair and square. Unfortunately I discovered this casino has awful TrustPilot.com reviews after my account was disabled.

Trustpilot has zero credibility and it is full of fake reviews.
Why do you even play on suspicious casinos like this? And how did you find about them?
They are not available in bitcointalk forum, or any other forum I am using, and I never heard about them before.

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Quote from: Pmalek on February 07, 2024, 11:37:46 AM

Mempool.space mentions CPFP in its records for one of your past transactions, which is perhaps what the casino meant when they mentioned doublespending to you. Ask the support which transaction was doublespent to see how they will respond.

But I'm not sure how a CPFP could be taken as suspicion of attempting to double spend.

Because you're not replacing a transaction/spending the same input/s. Instead, someone who owns an unconfirmed output from the parent transaction spends it in another transaction with a bigger miner fee covering both of them -- child and the parent.

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Quote from: Pmalek on February 07, 2024, 11:37:46 AM

Quote from: SammyGambler on February 07, 2024, 04:31:06 AM

I sent the bitcoin from my account at an exchange. I did not use RBF or CPFP on any transaction. I didn’t even know what those terms meant, so I had to google them.

Someone did, perhaps the exchange. Although, I am not sure if exchanges do that. They usually overpay on the transactions they sent to avoid issues like long confirmation times. Mempool.space mentions CPFP in its records for one of your past transactions, which is perhaps what the casino meant when they mentioned doublespending to you. Ask the support which transaction was doublespent to see how they will respond.

The casino has failed to respond to any follow-up emails. It’s clear they sent the email about double spend/chargeback to simply make me go away.

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Quote from: SammyGambler on February 07, 2024, 04:31:06 AM

I sent the bitcoin from my account at an exchange. I did not use RBF or CPFP on any transaction. I didn’t even know what those terms meant, so I had to google them.

Someone did, perhaps the exchange. Although, I am not sure if exchanges do that. They usually overpay on the transactions they sent to avoid issues like long confirmation times. Mempool.space mentions CPFP in its records for one of your past transactions, which is perhaps what the casino meant when they mentioned doublespending to you. Ask the support which transaction was doublespent to see how they will respond.

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Quote from: Pmalek on February 06, 2024, 12:25:56 PM

Double spending is possible with Bitcoin transactions. I am guessing this casino accepts 0-confirmation transactions, am I right? In other words, they add the money to your balance before the transaction occurs on-chain and allow you to play with it. But you can't make a withdrawal before the transactions confirms.

I have a few questions.

Was this the address you often used to deposit from and to the casino? It seems to belong to an exchange.
https://mempool.space/address/bc1qr35hws365juz5rtlsjtvmulu97957kqvr3zpw3

Did you use RBF or CPFP on any of the transactions for depositing into your casino account? I was never any good at investigating blockchain data, but here is what I noticed after a quick glance:

https://mempool.space/tx/e026d94285ec58ef1ade9da48b4a9c80ea481feae10db8bd174c2ec25b5b48a5 - someone seems to have made a CPFP to bump the fees of this transaction which also involves your casino account. Do you know anything about that?

Like I said, I am not a fan of investigating blockchain records, so someone who knows this better than me should probably take a look. Perhaps that causes the issues and what they consider to be a doublespend!?

I sent the bitcoin from my account at an exchange. I did not use RBF or CPFP on any transaction. I didn’t even know what those terms meant, so I had to google them. I simply deposited tons of money into this casino, finally won and then got my account blocked.

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Double spending is possible with Bitcoin transactions. I am guessing this casino accepts 0-confirmation transactions, am I right? In other words, they add the money to your balance before the transaction occurs on-chain and allow you to play with it. But you can't make a withdrawal before the transactions confirms.

I have a few questions.

Was this the address you often used to deposit from and to the casino? It seems to belong to an exchange.
https://mempool.space/address/bc1qr35hws365juz5rtlsjtvmulu97957kqvr3zpw3

Did you use RBF or CPFP on any of the transactions for depositing into your casino account? I was never any good at investigating blockchain data, but here is what I noticed after a quick glance:

https://mempool.space/tx/e026d94285ec58ef1ade9da48b4a9c80ea481feae10db8bd174c2ec25b5b48a5 - someone seems to have made a CPFP to bump the fees of this transaction which also involves your casino account. Do you know anything about that?

Like I said, I am not a fan of investigating blockchain records, so someone who knows this better than me should probably take a look. Perhaps that causes the issues and what they consider to be a doublespend!?

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