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Topic: SCAM! Bit-Paradise - FAKE CEO, Plagiarized Whitepaper [UPDATED: 1/Aug/2019] (Read 820 times)

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UPDATE

Since, this Bitparadise chaps are still active especially on their telegram I decided to add a Newbie flag. I would like a couple of people to support it.
Thanks.

Type 1 Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=534
legendary
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Op has been updated with a summary of events that happened with links to those different posts and findings for details.
I hope it will be easily followed by new readers
Thank you.
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Same ICO Airdrop is posted on AirdropAlert..

Most authentic Airdrop promotion site (They claim it to be)!!!

https://i.imgur.com/vB6asdB.png


https://i.imgur.com/HcsQUBe.png


It's a lie, they are not the most authentic because they can't even do a simple due diligence by checking the scam accusations board to see if the project was listed as scam.
My guess is bit-paradise took their  project to get listed on AirdropAlert knowing that they already lost trust here.

And probably bribed them some money that's why they are deleting your comments. My advice is to keep off such ICO and Airdrop listing websites


We received a response from AirdropAlert, and they have removed Bitparadise from their verified list.







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Same ICO Airdrop is posted on AirdropAlert..

Most authentic Airdrop promotion site (They claim it to be)!!!

https://i.imgur.com/vB6asdB.png


https://i.imgur.com/HcsQUBe.png


It's a lie, they are not the most authentic because they can't even do a simple due diligence by checking the scam accusations board to see if the project was listed as scam.
My guess is bit-paradise took their  project to get listed on AirdropAlert knowing that they already lost trust here.

And probably bribed them some money that's why they are deleting your comments. My advice is to keep off such ICO and Airdrop listing websites

We are not defending AirdropAlert, but they have been one of the cleanest websites (free of ico's scams) that we know in the market.
They have a webpage of unverified airdrop https://airdropalert.com/unverified-airdrops (suspicious, scam, etc..)  It appears that they do their due diligence, as you can see on that list some of them are marked as scam and there is a reference to this forum.

We sent them an email today reporting that there is a scam listed, probably they will take it down. Usually, they are very good at taking action, not like other sites that we report and they ignore.

Maybe they changed administration, or maybe they didnt call it a scam because the OP has not accused it of a scam yet: "Bit-Paradise - FAKE TEAM"
OP should consider updating this thread subject line and add the word "scam" in there, and on the main post as well.

1- evidence

- Fake Ceo - 1st image = stock photo (fake)
- CEO - replaced with 2nd photo that doesnt match the first one.
- A video was requested, and the person on the video presented is not the same as the 1st or 2nd image.
- A new image of the CEO was requested
- They presented a badly photoshopped image that doesnt match any previous photos/video posted by them.
- Unable to fabricate a new image they replaced the CEO completely.  

2- evidence
- Plagiarized whitepaper

Also they didnt provide evidence that they have a license to operate a casino.

You can find all evidence listed above on this thread - archived here

legendary
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Same ICO Airdrop is posted on AirdropAlert..

Most authentic Airdrop promotion site (They claim it to be)!!!








It's a lie, they are not the most authentic because they can't even do a simple due diligence by checking the scam accusations board to see if the project was listed as scam.
My guess is bit-paradise took their  project to get listed on AirdropAlert knowing that they already lost trust here.

And probably bribed them some money that's why they are deleting your comments. My advice is to keep off such ICO and Airdrop listing websites
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Same ICO Airdrop is posted on AirdropAlert..

Most authentic Airdrop promotion site (They claim it to be)!!!




sr. member
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wow this site is scam?
Yes it is, look through this whole thread for more information.

I suspect bitparadise. Much like ui in www.micro.com.br. Bitparadise seems to have stolen micro ui. micro is a very popular place that opened in January.  Micro is also an exchange with gambling.


Sounds like that you came here to talk about (promoting???) Micro.com.br -(Possibly another scam???) -  Cryptocurrency is not supported or regulated by the Brazilian Government, and gambling is illegal.  
We are aware of many scams made in Brazil and there are people there teaching how to create scams. There one person that was an adviser in a few scams,  after caught, he deleted all his social media and disappeared (maybe he is still working but with another name).

 
Bit-parasite still listed in many places, on the typical scam promoters platform, such as ICOHolder, Bench, and a few others.






Unbelievable, all members failed KYC and ICOBench still listed them with 3.4 ratings.







legendary
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wow this site is scam?
Yes it is, look through this whole thread for more information.
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Thank you. I know most of those, except tineye. Will look that one up.  Smiley
OP, coolcryptovator or ICOEthics might have knoweledge of more other useful tools, but those are the one i also know about.
Otherwise you are welcome  Wink
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How do you locate images like that? Some kind of facial recognition through image archives? I always want to do it with projects that I think are shady but haven't found a good way of searching. Also, the image compare ICO posted earlier is cool too.
There are very many tools on the web that can help with image recognition and image search. Some ore premium whereas others are free
We have google images, yandex images, Amazon Rekognition, tineye, bing images etc.

Thank you. I know most of those, except tineye. Will look that one up.  Smiley
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How do you locate images like that? Some kind of facial recognition through image archives? I always want to do it with projects that I think are shady but haven't found a good way of searching. Also, the image compare ICO posted earlier is cool too.
There are very many tools on the web that can help with image recognition and image search. Some ore premium whereas others are free
We have google images, yandex images, Amazon Rekognition, tineye, bing images etc.
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What happened: Fake Team, Stock image used for CEO

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bit-paradise-2564114

ANN: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-5121799
Archived: http://archive.is/PNupt

website: http://bitparadise.club/token/en
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20190320000142/http://bitparadise.club/token/en

1. STOCK PHOTO


CEO: Jerry Wang
Linkedin: No link

Source of stock image: https://quanjing.com/imgbuy/QJ6300261916.html


2. Some Team members like Anders Johnsson "Official Advisor" and Arturas Svirskis "CMO" do not mention BitParadise anywhere in their LinkedIn profiles or portifolios.
They were probably added without their knowledge
- Anders Johnsson - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anders-johnsson-61b7b940/
- Arturas Svirskis - https://www.linkedin.com/in/arturassvirskis/


How do you locate images like that? Some kind of facial recognition through image archives? I always want to do it with projects that I think are shady but haven't found a good way of searching. Also, the image compare ICO posted earlier is cool too.
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My post was deleted on his thread though -  Tongue
Really expected from a self-Moderated ANN that already has 3 posts from 3 users already deleted.
The scammer is trying very hard to bump the thread by updating it but it's getting no attention from the community probably because of his red tag.

Another interesting find is the Name of the fake CEO they claimed was real has suddenly turned from Jerry Wang to JD Venkatesh. He's nolonger Chinese or Korean Grin

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My post was deleted on his thread though -  Tongue

Interesting to know what their ICO results be? Are they going to hit their targets after getting the red trust? And checking the reference link, the exchange of thoughts are worth reading. It will give you a certain picture what's going on with this project. So are they going to hit the paradise soon or not?



Now, this becomes more interesting!!!
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New topic, new account, new attempt to trick people into their scam. Did they really think this would go unnoticed?

Please tell me they haven't changed their CEO's photograph again?  Grin

Bit-Parasite
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Took time to read through the replies that were made while away and i must commend ICOEthics, Morvillz7z and the rest here on how you stood your ground and handled the whole situation.
Bit-Paradise just messed up even the little chance they were given.
I could see it from the ANN maker's bitter responses that something was definitely not right.


Grabbing someone else's photo at the very early stage of development is already a big NO NO to trust a project. Just because they were caught red-handed, they formulate excuses after excuses. Thanks for all these individuals who dedicate their time of seriously digging the facts and sharing it to the community.
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Took time to read through the replies that were made while away and i must commend ICOEthics, Morvillz7z and the rest here on how you stood your ground and handled the whole situation.
Bit-Paradise just messed up even the little chance they were given.
I could see it from the ANN maker's bitter responses that something was definitely not right.
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Another fake image and now fake whitepaper = Now we can give them a red trust that they deserve. They didn't want to answer the questions, and we had more, such as provide evidence of this:

SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS ONLINE GAMING LICENSE REQUIREMENTS:
" The company must pay the Government a registration fee of USD 80,000 and an annual license fee of USD 40,000."
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New self-moderated ANN thread just popped out: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-bit-paradise-cryptocurrency-meets-casino-game-5123475

I guess it's easier to dodge uncomfortable questions and delete perfectly justified accusations.

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The more they try to justify their lies, the deeper they fall into this swamp. Make a photo with the date and name of the project, it is a huge difficulty for them. The video was shot with a very low-quality camera. It is even surprising that in our age of high technology, people launching their own project do not have the opportunity to make a good video.

In addition, the video has been deleted ... Angry



New topic. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-bit-paradise-cryptocurrency-meets-casino-game-5123475
https://web.archive.org/web/20190322104732/https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-bit-paradise-cryptocurrency-meets-casino-game-5123475
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They replaced another picture of their CEO.
I think spent a lot of time to design this wesite, now they are accused of fraud, they have spent money on it to scam people but failed, and they are angry about it. Haha.
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I'm not sure why am I being so nice with these people.

You know something is fishy when you fail to address simple questions multiple times and resort to ad hominem attacks. That project is nothing more but a little shitty scam. Along with a fake CEO they have plagiarized whitepaper copied from next.exchange:









To my surprise there is a third or fourth version of Jerry Wang  Cheesy :



Looks like his face has gone through photoshop one too many times...and still doesn't match the guy from the video:



http://bitparadise.club/public/n_home/pdf/BitParadise_Whitepaper.pdf

https://next.exchange/whitepaper



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So, now instead of answering the previous thing I mentioned, you have went to the license? This is getting amazing moment by moment.

We realized that you want to play games here. lets play!

First Round = FAKE CEO - you failed to provide evidence - CLOSED - since you dont want to provide evidence of his name.

Second Round = License - Are you going to answer the question and provide any evidence?

It just gets worse as the level of your game goes up!

 

That's all done from us.

We did everything we could to solve the issue and provided everything, but when the moral of the story is to trouble people for sake of your own relevance by keeping such issues on-going, then how will it be solved?

So that's all. No further reply. The video is also taken down now, we are simply amazed how Bitcointalk Admin is allowing it.

We tried everything, and even followed advice which thought was to solve this issue but it was a mistake to waste time on something like this.

We are still open to put up more images or even videos IF it guarantees that this issue will be solved, but if not then this was the final reply here to you, at least.
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So, now instead of answering the previous thing I mentioned, you have went to the license? This is getting amazing moment by moment.

We realized that you want to play games here. lets play!

First Round = FAKE CEO - you failed to provide evidence - CLOSED - since you dont want to provide evidence of his name.

Second Round = License - Are you going to answer the question and provide any evidence?

It just gets worse as the level of your game goes up!

 
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What is this address for? Office? Operation location? Do you have a license to operate in which country? Can you provide documents?




So, now instead of answering the previous thing I mentioned, you have went to the license? This is getting amazing moment by moment.

This is the thing I pointed in my last post, there is NO STOPPING. If we provide the image, video is asked, if we provide the video, profile is asked, if we provide the profile, something else is asked. The cycle I believe is not possible to stop, because there that's how it's to be done.....


The thread was created on basis of IMAGE, we justify it countless times, but unfortunately instead of accepting, this is just going to continue.
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What is this address for? Office? Operation location? Do you have a license to operate in which country? Can you provide documents?


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No, I am sorry to say we have NOT created this problem. It was almost like people were waiting for the mistake to make it big.
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I already explained about the video...
How is that not enough now?...

Why are you trying to make this so complicated? It is easy - FAKE CEO = SCAM

Want a second chance? (you dont deserve a second chance), but giving you a benefit of the doubt, we asked you to provide a video. But how do we know that the name of that person in the video that you provided is what you said it is? You didnt provide any profile. Do you understand? It was FAKE ONCE and now we need evidence!!!  And dont forget we need evidence of the other two members as well. We dont understand why your CMO have not updated his profile with your project yet. This should be a matter of an emergency for a Chief Marketing Officer - to clear/clean the name of a project -  dont you think?

And again - Video and photo of your CEO didnt match!

Maybe you should listen to morvillz7z suggestion:

I would suggest that you post another picture of him from a different angle so that we can have a better comparison between the two. If you don't, we can assume you've replaced a fake CEO with another fake CEO.



Sorry but there is no talk of "SECOND CHANCE" here. We are very clear that we never did anything wrong in first place. Did you found us putting that fake image anywhere like ANN thread or Whitepaper? So tell me by your logic why we will not do that? I like you to answer this. If our intention was like you and some people are trying to put up, then why we will not put it on ANN and Whitepaper? And I have one more question, IF the intention was like you say it probably was, then why we did not had that image from the time the website was launched? And about the video, I have clearly explained that the CEO is not someone who runs 100 ICOs daily to have all social profiles ready to be shown. All other members have it, because they already had it, so it was not like it was created specific for this. So what profile do you exactly need to be shown? While it's very clear that you changed your stance on this because first up you asked for the video, once that was done then you have now started up this point, so it almost is never stopping thing till maybe we decide to stop replying or ignoring.

We don't have any problem with adding another image or even another video, but the point is that these demands are just not stopping. Okay, I agree that you guys are helping people stop from joining scam ICO, but does that mean you trouble even if ones are genuine? I mean, in that sense I could also start up with the thing that you are trying to keep yourself and your website relevant by targeting ICOs and staying on in public eye like few other people here, but I have not done that because it's obvious that there are a lot of scammers out there and a lot of are genuinely spotted.

But common, do you seriously think we will be defending this much if we really had wrong intention? It's not even a mistake that we have done, because the thing was picked up from our website, and now I don't want to sound silly here by saying that it's wrong, because that's correct. But it was picked up when we were making the changes. Your way and approach is fine if we had put it up on the Whitepaper or ANN thread, but we never did that. I mean, how is this fair to target something like that when it's in the work-out phase?

Also the 2 members you are repeatedly mentioning, I have mentioned it before and will repeat it again just for clarification, the thing you have pointed will be done soon, but in case anyone having any doubts you are welcome to contact them, and they are more than happy to clarify things.
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No, I am sorry to say we have NOT created this problem. It was almost like people were waiting for the mistake to make it big.
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I already explained about the video...
How is that not enough now?...

Why are you trying to make this so complicated? It is easy - FAKE CEO = SCAM

Want a second chance? (you dont deserve a second chance), but giving you a benefit of the doubt, we asked you to provide a video. But how do we know that the name of that person in the video that you provided is what you said it is? You didnt provide any profile. Do you understand? It was FAKE ONCE and now we need evidence!!!  And dont forget we need evidence of the other two members as well. We dont understand why your CMO have not updated his profile with your project yet. This should be a matter of an emergency for a Chief Marketing Officer - to clear/clean the name of a project -  dont you think?

And again - Video and photo of your CEO didnt match!

Maybe you should listen to morvillz7z suggestion:

I would suggest that you post another picture of him from a different angle so that we can have a better comparison between the two. If you don't, we can assume you've replaced a fake CEO with another fake CEO.

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Ok so I will follow what you have suggested and put ANOTHER picture! But only IF you assure me that then this problem will be solved.

This is a problem you created by having your CEO's fake photo on your website and only you can solve it by providing the necessary proofs. We should be able to confirm his identity. A picture of a guy where you can barely see half of his face and a video of a Korean - speaking guy, which I'm sure no one here can understand, though I admit I can hear him say your project's name...is not enough.

Take for example Windhanenergy project, they had a similar issue with incorrect photos. They posted a video with their entire team, they also provided additional proofs/documents of their company...building permits, certificates etc. and issue was resolved.



No, I am sorry to say we have NOT created this problem. It was almost like people were waiting for the mistake to make it big. Is it so hard to see for you or others or are you guys actually pretending something?

I already explained about the video, the CEO's first language is not English, so to avoid any issues it was decided to go for the actual language.

How is that not enough now? I repeatedly asked what is required, and then I was told that put up a video, at that time it was enough? Now after adding the video, that become not enough. So, logically in a sense nothing will be ENOUGH, because you guys are not interested in solving, but interested in damaging genuine projects. This is the reason I believe why majority prefer not wasting time over putting teams, as certain people will microscope it unnecessarily to trouble.

JeromeTash - I hope you understand that you should give priority to this thread if you are interested in opening such things. We are still waiting for your reply about it.
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Ok so I will follow what you have suggested and put ANOTHER picture! But only IF you assure me that then this problem will be solved.

This is a problem you created by having your CEO's fake photo on your website and only you can solve it by providing the necessary proofs. We should be able to confirm his identity. A picture of a guy where you can barely see half of his face and a video of a Korean - speaking guy, which I'm sure no one here can understand, though I admit I can hear him say your project's name...is not enough.

Take for example Windhanenergy project, they had a similar issue with incorrect photos. They posted a video with their entire team, they also provided additional proofs/documents of their company...building permits, certificates etc. and issue was resolved.

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Ok so now even the picture is not matching, nothing else is left to be said now. As nothing can get more ridiculous than that. Now maybe we need to bring some expert to confirm that image and video is same

What you need is Amazon AWS facial recognition software (the same program ICOEthics used to compare both images), which is pretty accurate for the most part. If there was even the slightest resemblance between the screenshot taken from that video and the image on your website, program would have given some sort of percentage match.

I would suggest that you post another picture of him from a different angle so that we can have a better comparison between the two. If you don't, we can assume you've replaced a fake CEO with another fake CEO.

This is starting to become embarrassing now, can any person in senses look at the picture and video for godsake and be honest with their views!!!!

Ok so I will follow what you have suggested and put ANOTHER picture! But only IF you assure me that then this problem will be solved. As I am making myself look foolish by this with following advice/suggestions, and then up not making any difference at all.

@JeromeTash, I am still waiting for you to reply.
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Ok so now even the picture is not matching, nothing else is left to be said now. As nothing can get more ridiculous than that. Now maybe we need to bring some expert to confirm that image and video is same

What you need is Amazon AWS facial recognition software (the same program ICOEthics used to compare both images), which is pretty accurate for the most part. If there was even the slightest resemblance between the screenshot taken from that video and the image on your website, program would have given some sort of percentage match.

I would suggest that you post another picture of him from a different angle so that we can have a better comparison between the two. If you don't, we can assume you've replaced a fake CEO with another fake CEO.
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 Is this really SO enjoyable for people to trouble others even if their claim is wrong?

The claim is not wrong. You had a FAKE CEO picture.
You uploaded a video as recommended of your CEO, but you are failing to provide evidence of his name. How do we know his name is Jerry Wang?

It is like looking at a dog without a tag. You can name it whatever you want.

ANd yes, the picture doesnt match!!!



Ok so now even the picture is not matching, nothing else is left to be said now. As nothing can get more ridiculous than that. Now maybe we need to bring some expert to confirm that image and video is same, but then that will not be enough as you said we can name a dog anything. Great respect people have for newcomers here.

Thanks for your help.
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 Is this really SO enjoyable for people to trouble others even if their claim is wrong?

The claim is not wrong. You had a FAKE CEO picture.
You uploaded a video as recommended of your CEO, but you are failing to provide evidence of his name. How do we know his name is Jerry Wang?

It is like looking at a dog without a tag. You can name it whatever you want.

ANd yes, the picture doesnt match!!!

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Bit-heaven read all your answers. Why don't you understand the obvious? The more you pretend not to understand what to do, what you are asked about. Thereby more distrust you deserve. You yourself are burying your unborn project.

Pretend??? WOW!!!!

The image was replaced with the correct one, and to even further give confirmation (suggested by ICOEthics), we added the video.

So what do exactly we have pretended not to understand?

Yes, so basically what you want to say is that we deserve more hate, because we tried to defend and claim that the accusation is wrong. If that is the case then why wrote Scam Accusations? write it as Scam proven!

It's really great to see how people are playing their part in LEAVING NO ROOM TO BASH/ABUSE/HATE us, when we have done really no wrong. We have tried sending PMs to all people who asked questions and explained them, we explained here, but probably nothing to done.

Everyone is busy with their own scheme of things without even trying to understand our side. What exactly do IF there are dam scammers spread here, we are not scammers, we have done everything to prove that, what else do we exactly do now? Is this really SO enjoyable for people to trouble others even if their claim is wrong?
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Bit-heaven read all your answers. Why don't you understand the obvious? The more you pretend not to understand what to do, what you are asked about. Thereby more distrust you deserve. You yourself are burying your unborn project.
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Please take me back to post where I "REFUSED" to do that. We have already requested them, and they will do it soon. They welcome anyone who prefers to confirm their role in the team. So, everything is transparent.

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...all the team members have EXPERIENCE and are part of this industry for years, which is why they are chosen to be part of this project. But the CEO is NOT someone who have 100 ICOs running under, so there is NO LINKEDIN there, so what profile do we exactly provide you.

And please tell me is it a CRIME not to add profile?...
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Again I request you to tell me WHAT ELSE TO DO TO PROOF? Everything is done as REQUESTED, so if you still keep doubting us like that then how is that fine?


1 - Not going to take you back again - you can go back and read all your posts where we asked you to contact your CMO and Adviser  - and instead you kept telling everyone to go ask themselves. You never said that you were going to contact them and ask to add your project to their profile.
2 - He should have a profile as every professional does. Where is his resume/bio? twitter? facebook? other pictures? something that connects the name with the image?
3 - No, it is not a crime for not having a profile. But Investors will not invest in a project, especially if the CEO doesn't have a profile - Your adviser should tell you that.
4 - Thank you for uploading the video, but we dont know who that person is. What you can do about it?  we already told you.

His picture doesnt match by the way!!!






1. We did mentioned we will be making the update, but since it was not specific we are just mentioning again now that it will be done soon. The reason we have said should be matched with the question that was asked, which was that maybe those are also fake, in which reference we said that everyone is welcome to check themselves. So hope this at least clarify this.
2. No, it's not necessary everyone to be on social sites, when you talk about other members, they have NO CHOICE but to be present on social sites, because that's their WORK.
3. The problem here is not HOW we will get the INVESTORS, the problem here is that we are facing Scam Accusations, for which I believe the stuff given should be ENOUGH.
4. Now common please, are you seriously saying the Image and video is different? I mean this is just crazy. ITS SAME!! While how else do you want it to be confirmed that it's our CEO?? And lastly, the point you circle about Linkedin logo there, it's just the FRAME of the image.
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Please take me back to post where I "REFUSED" to do that. We have already requested them, and they will do it soon. They welcome anyone who prefers to confirm their role in the team. So, everything is transparent.

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...all the team members have EXPERIENCE and are part of this industry for years, which is why they are chosen to be part of this project. But the CEO is NOT someone who have 100 ICOs running under, so there is NO LINKEDIN there, so what profile do we exactly provide you.

And please tell me is it a CRIME not to add profile?...
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Again I request you to tell me WHAT ELSE TO DO TO PROOF? Everything is done as REQUESTED, so if you still keep doubting us like that then how is that fine?


1 - Not going to take you back again - you can go back and read all your posts where we asked you to contact your CMO and Adviser  - and instead you kept telling everyone to go ask themselves. You never said that you were going to contact them and ask to add your project to their profile.
2 - He should have a profile as every professional does. Where is his resume/bio? twitter? facebook? other pictures? something that connects the name with the image?
3 - No, it is not a crime for not having a profile. But Investors will not invest in a project, especially if the CEO doesn't have a profile - Your adviser should tell you that.
4 - Thank you for uploading the video, but we dont know who that person is. What you can do about it?  we already told you.

His picture doesnt match by the way!!!


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What other response you are exactly looking for? You asked that you are not sure about those two members part of the team, so how else do we really give you the confirmation?

This is seriously amazing. Now on your request, the CEO was requested for the video, now that too is not good enough? This is just not right, how can you put such claims like that? The thread was opened because we had random image, and due to that we added the correct one.

And even further for sake of confirmation and clarification, we added the video of the CEO, but now that seems not good enough? What else do you require us to do? Put Passport here for confirmation?


You refused to ask your CMO and Adviser to update their profile by adding your project. You are expecting that everyone goes harass them asking questions about your suspicious project.
It is YOUR obligation to do that if you want transparency.

You had a FAKE CEO on your website, we asked for proof of his identity, you provided a video of someone - Do you expect people to just believe in the video of a person that nobody knows who he is? Where is his profile? You dont want even to provide a profile. Nobody asked for a passport- we asked for a PROFILE + VIDEO. 

We were trying to help you get out of this mess that you created but looks like you are getting angry. We will let you deal with this alone, and soon more people will be giving you more red trust.
Investors should be aware and very cautious about investing anything on your project.
copper member
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The question, yes the name of the CEO is Jerry Wang.
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As per Anders Johnsson and Arturas Svirskis, EVERYONE is welcome to contact them DIRECTLY and get their CONFIRMATION if they are really part of the team or not. Won't that be easiest way?

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Will you be KIND enough to contact everyone and CHECK IT YOURSELF!!!!

This is not a nice response - Imagine how many people will be contacting those two members to ask if they are part of your or team or not.
It is YOUR obligation to do that for the investors, and not investors to do that for you.

Here's our CEO video. Although, he CAN speak English, but it's not the FIRST language, therefore we decided it was sensible to proceed with the language that's used. https://vimeo.com/325613635

As far as this video and the image that you uploaded to your website, how do we know that his name is Jerry Wang? Where can we confirm that? As you know, anyone can pay $10 dollars to a homeless and make a video, photos, etc. Where is his profile?



What other response you are exactly looking for? You asked that you are not sure about those two members part of the team, so how else do we really give you the confirmation?

This is seriously amazing. Now on your request, the CEO was requested for the video, now that too is not good enough? This is just not right, how can you put such claims like that? The thread was opened because we had random image, and due to that we added the correct one.

And even further for sake of confirmation and clarification, we added the video of the CEO, but now that seems not good enough? What else do you require us to do? Put Passport here for confirmation?

sr. member
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The question, yes the name of the CEO is Jerry Wang.
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As per Anders Johnsson and Arturas Svirskis, EVERYONE is welcome to contact them DIRECTLY and get their CONFIRMATION if they are really part of the team or not. Won't that be easiest way?

~...
Will you be KIND enough to contact everyone and CHECK IT YOURSELF!!!!

This is not a nice response - Imagine how many people will be contacting those two members to ask if they are part of your or team or not.
It is YOUR obligation to do that for the investors, and not investors to do that for you.

Here's our CEO video. Although, he CAN speak English, but it's not the FIRST language, therefore we decided it was sensible to proceed with the language that's used. https://vimeo.com/325613635

As far as this video and the image that you uploaded to your website, how do we know that his name is Jerry Wang? Where can we confirm that? As you know, anyone can pay $10 dollars to a homeless and make a video, photos, etc. Where is his profile?



copper member
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It's strange why will we require to do something like you have suggested? As the CEO image and details will be available much like it's available of the REST of the members, and then anyone who feels otherwise could EASILY contact directly for confirmation or whatever they want.

It almost seems there is a crime commited by us, when we have not even done anything!
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There is nothing strange about that. Caught with a fake image is one of the worse things that can happen to damage a project's reputation. But now that your project is in the spotlight, just posting a new image of the CEO will not be enough. That is why we made the previous recommendation. And about Anders Johnsson and Arturas Svirskis - there is nothing wrong with that either - if they are part of your team, they should add your project to their Linkedin profile.

But what is strange is that you refused to answer 1 simple question about the name of your CEO. So, we will ask again, maybe you forgot:  What is the name of your CEO? Jerry Wang?

You posted this about the fake image of your CEO, but you didnt say anything about the name.

~...it was temporary added image, which is WHY you can't find LINKEDIN link with it, unlike ALL others.
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The question, yes the name of the CEO is Jerry Wang.

The thing that I am trying to explain AGAIN and AGAIN is that we there is only CEO image that's wrong, while THIS is the IMAGE we HAD on Bitcointalk forum -



March 18, 2019, 08:07:32 AM - This is the date of the THREAD we created. On Between 19/20 our developer added random image as he was checking everything on the site to be 100% completed, BECAUSE we were submitting site on ICO Listing places, where we needed to add all information and since the CEO was not available, temporary the random image was added by develop so it was that every information was correct.

IF the intention was to "FAKE", "SCAM" or anything like that then WHY will we NOT put it on the Bitcointalk thread? And HOW is this right that someone go to our website and pick up something that we were "WORKING" on and put up here as the route to FAKE team?

I am not saying that this is RIGHT, what I am saying is that why do people have to JUMP in like this? I can understand IF we CLAIM that this is indeed the CEO and then it was FINE to label us with whatever one wishes, but FIRSTLY we NEVER put up anything random here.

As per Anders Johnsson and Arturas Svirskis, EVERYONE is welcome to contact them DIRECTLY and get their CONFIRMATION if they are really part of the team or not. Won't that be easiest way?
hero member
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They are so in a hurry to launch their ICO without properly putting the right profile in their homepage, some of these fake ICO are just recruiting people from Linked without even investigating the background of the people they are recruiting because as we all know people are putting fake credentials.
sr. member
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It's strange why will we require to do something like you have suggested? As the CEO image and details will be available much like it's available of the REST of the members, and then anyone who feels otherwise could EASILY contact directly for confirmation or whatever they want.

It almost seems there is a crime commited by us, when we have not even done anything!
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There is nothing strange about that. Caught with a fake image is one of the worse things that can happen to damage a project's reputation. But now that your project is in the spotlight, just posting a new image of the CEO will not be enough. That is why we made the previous recommendation. And about Anders Johnsson and Arturas Svirskis - there is nothing wrong with that either - if they are part of your team, they should add your project to their Linkedin profile.

But what is strange is that you refused to answer 1 simple question about the name of your CEO. So, we will ask again, maybe you forgot:  What is the name of your CEO? Jerry Wang?

You posted this about the fake image of your CEO, but you didnt say anything about the name.

~...it was temporary added image, which is WHY you can't find LINKEDIN link with it, unlike ALL others.
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legendary
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Heisenberg

The reason we do not have "under construction" is because the website is ready and working, it's only that there are BUGS that we are testing and fixing. We are ALREADY working on all points, along with what you mentioned about 2 members of our team.

While it should be so obvious that we are not TRYING to scam anyone or put up anything fake, because you can see ALL links on genuine picture, but the picture that's in question is not proper which is why NO INFORMATION is given. It's something that's added by the develop just to complete the SET.

It's strange why will we require to do something like you have suggested? As the CEO image and details will be available much like it's available of the REST of the members, and then anyone who feels otherwise could EASILY contact directly for confirmation or whatever they want.

It almost seems there is a crime commited by us, when we have not even done anything!

Just as we were trying to explain the thread opener this, the above person added feedback, I really don't know how this system works on Bitcointalk, as how can someone so quickly give feedback? I mean at least the person to whom it's given should be asked about the issue that is considered for it.

We are not creating 100 ICOs daily that we are experienced, so there are so many things that we are just starting to know is required to be put up in terms of details and all that, and we on request are adding those, but we are HUMANS only and everything can be put up in one go. If something is MISSING/INCORRECT, it should be mentioned but just directly putting a label on us is so UNFAIR.

I REQUEST these people above KINDLY don't target us like we are criminals, GIVE A FAIR chance to PROOF that whatever mentioned is "WRONG".

And we don't request to wait too long, within next few days, we will be updating everything along with the thread, so I ONCE again request the thread opener and the person who opened the thread to KINDLY reverse their action. If after final update that happens anything like this spotted, then everyone is WELCOME to label us whatever they want, but PLEASE be KIND ENOUGH not to label us like that without even letting us put up things properly!

I did nothing wrong here except bring attention to the community about shady and scam projects.
The excuse you just brought up is very typical of scammers trying to cover their tracks... I have seen lots of them give that sort of excuse here before.

Why even make an ANN before your project is ready?

CEO is the most important person in the team but instead decided to make us look like fools. Your act of putting up a fake profile of your CEO is what we would label "UNFAIR"

Yes, we do target scammers as criminals and there are lots of them here. If you can't be genuine and prove that your intention to handling investors' money is genuine, then you are a scammer in this forum. That's why this board is here.



copper member
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This is just so wrong! We are working our ..... off day and night to ensure everything is perfect and someone started a thread labeling us scam!!!!!

I KNOW you meant to HELP but KINDLY understand that it's not so easy. We are focusing on fixing every thing on the website and therefore, it was temporary added image, which is WHY you can't find LINKEDIN link with it, unlike ALL others.

PLEASE CONTACT Anders Johnsson and Arturas Svirskis - OR any other for confirmation IF you are having doubts. We will be having the CEO image updated shortly along with the LinkedIn link for it as well.
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You should keep your website "under construction" if it is not ready!!!

What is the name of your CEO? Jerry Wang ?

Maybe you should contact Anders Johnsson and Arturas Svirskis and ask them to add your project to their Linkedin profile. We have sent messages to Anders Johnsson in the past, but it appears that he doesn't like to answer questions. They need to validate that they part of your team. And maybe you can make a video of your CEO and post on your website or youtube. Or, you can also ask your CEO to take a selfie holding a paper with today's date written on it and upload here.

The reason we do not have "under construction" is because the website is ready and working, it's only that there are BUGS that we are testing and fixing. We are ALREADY working on all points, along with what you mentioned about 2 members of our team.

While it should be so obvious that we are not TRYING to scam anyone or put up anything fake, because you can see ALL links on genuine picture, but the picture that's in question is not proper which is why NO INFORMATION is given. It's something that's added by the develop just to complete the SET.

It's strange why will we require to do something like you have suggested? As the CEO image and details will be available much like it's available of the REST of the members, and then anyone who feels otherwise could EASILY contact directly for confirmation or whatever they want.

It almost seems there is a crime commited by us, when we have not even done anything!

Just as we were trying to explain the thread opener this, the above person added feedback, I really don't know how this system works on Bitcointalk, as how can someone so quickly give feedback? I mean at least the person to whom it's given should be asked about the issue that is considered for it.

We are not creating 100 ICOs daily that we are experienced, so there are so many things that we are just starting to know is required to be put up in terms of details and all that, and we on request are adding those, but we are HUMANS only and everything can be put up in one go. If something is MISSING/INCORRECT, it should be mentioned but just directly putting a label on us is so UNFAIR.

I REQUEST these people above KINDLY don't target us like we are criminals, GIVE A FAIR chance to PROOF that whatever mentioned is "WRONG".

And we don't request to wait too long, within next few days, we will be updating everything along with the thread, so I ONCE again request the thread opener and the person who opened the thread to KINDLY reverse their action. If after final update that happens anything like this spotted, then everyone is WELCOME to label us whatever they want, but PLEASE be KIND ENOUGH not to label us like that without even letting us put up things properly!

sr. member
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This is just so wrong! We are working our ..... off day and night to ensure everything is perfect and someone started a thread labeling us scam!!!!!

I KNOW you meant to HELP but KINDLY understand that it's not so easy. We are focusing on fixing every thing on the website and therefore, it was temporary added image, which is WHY you can't find LINKEDIN link with it, unlike ALL others.

PLEASE CONTACT Anders Johnsson and Arturas Svirskis - OR any other for confirmation IF you are having doubts. We will be having the CEO image updated shortly along with the LinkedIn link for it as well.
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You should keep your website "under construction" if it is not ready!!!

What is the name of your CEO? Jerry Wang ?

Maybe you should contact Anders Johnsson and Arturas Svirskis and ask them to add your project to their Linkedin profile. We have sent messages to Anders Johnsson in the past, but it appears that he doesn't like to answer questions. They need to validate that they part of your team. And maybe you can make a video of your CEO and post on your website or youtube. Or, you can also ask your CEO to take a selfie holding a paper with today's date written on it and upload here.
legendary
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Signature space for rent
This is just so wrong! We are working our ..... off day and night to ensure everything is perfect and someone started a thread labeling us scam!!!!!
This is not first time that I hear this same excuse. I have seen lot of fake team and they had tried also explain same thing. But eventually most of them turn into scam. So how I will trust you. Why you have made announcement thread if your website is still under development? Why you didn't marked on website, "this website is under development". You are very cleaver, you just hire few random peoples from marketplace like marketing Md Jamal Molla and used their real photo. But you are hiding main role from your ICO. You have used few real image so what was the problem with CEO photo? Change photo after exposed is not going to help you and there is not enough reason to take down this thread (IMO).

Tagged by the way.
copper member
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What happened: Fake Team, Stock image used for CEO

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bit-paradise-2564114

ANN: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-5121799
Archived: http://archive.is/PNupt

website: http://bitparadise.club/token/en
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20190320000142/http://bitparadise.club/token/en

1. STOCK PHOTO


CEO: Jerry Wang
Linkedin: No link

Source of stock image: https://quanjing.com/imgbuy/QJ6300261916.html


2. Some Team members like Anders Johnsson "Official Advisor" and Arturas Svirskis "CMO" do not mention BitParadise anywhere in their LinkedIn profiles or portifolios.
They were probably added without their knowledge
- Anders Johnsson - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anders-johnsson-61b7b940/
- Arturas Svirskis - https://www.linkedin.com/in/arturassvirskis/


I have HUMBLE request to you PLEASE do not spread such claims. We will be upgrading our website in next 2 days which include the thing you have mentioned, so I REQUEST YOU TO KINDLY take this thread down and IF you find anything STILL Fishy Please open it again and that time I will NOT defend anything! But please do not put up something like that when we are just fixing it up. Right now we have some bugs in the website, which we are trying to fix, and that's why these things were not focused upon along with handling of Bitcointalk thread for answering of questions, but again like I said before we could reach, this has opened up. So kindly look into this properly and let me know your thoughts. Thanks
copper member
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What happened: Fake Team, Stock image used for CEO

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bit-paradise-2564114

ANN: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-5121799
Archived: http://archive.is/PNupt

website: http://bitparadise.club/token/en
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20190320000142/http://bitparadise.club/token/en

1. STOCK PHOTO


CEO: Jerry Wang
Linkedin: No link

Source of stock image: https://quanjing.com/imgbuy/QJ6300261916.html


2. Some Team members like Anders Johnsson "Official Advisor" and Arturas Svirskis "CMO" do not mention BitParadise anywhere in their LinkedIn profiles or portifolios.
They were probably added without their knowledge
- Anders Johnsson - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anders-johnsson-61b7b940/
- Arturas Svirskis - https://www.linkedin.com/in/arturassvirskis/


This is just so wrong! We are working our ..... off day and night to ensure everything is perfect and someone started a thread labeling us scam!!!!!

I KNOW you meant to HELP but KINDLY understand that it's not so easy. We are focusing on fixing every thing on the website and therefore, it was temporary added image, which is WHY you can't find LINKEDIN link with it, unlike ALL others.

PLEASE CONTACT Anders Johnsson and Arturas Svirskis - OR any other for confirmation IF you are having doubts. We will be having the CEO image updated shortly along with the LinkedIn link for it as well.

So please understand that we are not doing ANYTHING SCAM. Also, I again REQUEST you to PLEASE contact those 2 people of our team for confirmation, and PUT IT HERE, as it's so sad that people just blame randomly BEFORE even asking ONCE.

I REQUEST you please DO NOT HURT us when we are not doing anything wrong. If you still have doubts, PLEASE write here instead of calling us scam like that!
jr. member
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Thanks for your information.
You helped many people not waste their time.
legendary
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Heisenberg
ATTENTION


Recent updates have been summarized under what happened, Use the links in the summary to check for more details

What happened:

Summary

1. Fake Team, Stock image used for "CEO Jerry Weng" Discovered on the website

2. CEO photo was then hurriedly replaced with an image that did not match the first one on the website

3. They were asked to produce video evidence of CEO and proof that the CEO's name is actually Jerry Weng in the New Photo, but they still produced a fake video that was not even matching the new image on the website and could not provide documents to prove that it was Jerry Weng

4. On failure to provide the evidence, a new fake image of Jerry Weng  was updated on the website which was also proved not to match the video that was earlier on sent

5. The CEO the all of a sudden then turned into JD Venkatesh on the website's team profile with a new photo

6. Whitepaper is also plagiarized.

7. No evidence provided of having a license to operate a casino when it was requested


Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bit-paradise-2564114
Type 1 Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=534

ANN: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-5121799
Archived: http://archive.is/PNupt

NEW ANN: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-bit-paradise-cryptocurrency-meets-casino-game-5123475
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20190322104732/https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-bit-paradise-cryptocurrency-meets-casino-game-5123475.0

website: http://bitparadise.club/token/en
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20190320000142/http://bitparadise.club/token/en

1. STOCK PHOTO


CEO: Jerry Wang
Linkedin: No link

Source of stock image: https://quanjing.com/imgbuy/QJ6300261916.html


2. Some Team members like Anders Johnsson "Official Advisor" and Arturas Svirskis "CMO" do not mention BitParadise anywhere in their LinkedIn profiles or portifolios.
They were probably added without their knowledge
- Anders Johnsson - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anders-johnsson-61b7b940/
- Arturas Svirskis - https://www.linkedin.com/in/arturassvirskis/

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