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October 10, 2014, 12:35:35 PM
#69
That's because he's immature and stubborn and cries hysterically when he doesn't get his own way or something doesn't go on his own terms. Look how he acted. He could've sent that money he stole straight back, but he tried to dictate the return on his own terms and gave away all his alts just trying to defend the situation. If he was going to give anything back he would've done it by now, but he'll more than likely try use that money as some kind of futile bargaining chip. I still can't fathom we he did any of this. Does he have some kind of gambling problem? It just doesn't make sense.

He has told us in the prcdice troll box that he is borderline retarded.

this conversation might help you understand the complexity of Zolace.. A previous bounty link about zolace was posted and this is the chat box...

17:29: zolace that was because i caught the guy scamming
17:29: zolace read the whole threa
17:29: zolace i warned others
17:29: zolace but he still got away with the scam
17:29: zolace go check his feedback
17:29: ricky zolace ur an anal bead
17:30: a1choi i stick zolace where the sun dont shine
17:30: zolace I need to ask anyone work with a ticket system
17:30: ricky a1 free roll soon
17:30: zolace like a service ticket system
17:30: icp4life i get confused when zolace speaks
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October 10, 2014, 02:39:52 AM
#68
That's because he's immature and stubborn and cries hysterically when he doesn't get his own way or something doesn't go on his own terms. Look how he acted. He could've sent that money he stole straight back, but he tried to dictate the return on his own terms and gave away all his alts just trying to defend the situation. If he was going to give anything back he would've done it by now, but he'll more than likely try use that money as some kind of futile bargaining chip. I still can't fathom we he did any of this. Does he have some kind of gambling problem? It just doesn't make sense.
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October 09, 2014, 11:52:48 PM
#67
Zolace never meant to get caught scamming and using multiple accounts? No shit. Zolace could've paid the debt off anytime. He had more than enough funds in his alt account addresses. What is his explanation for trying to steal the money in the first place? An interest free loan that he could return whenever he wanted? He did something stupid and greedy and got caught for it and is now paying the consequences.  He also won't get his account back even if he repays his debt, but that's the minimum he should do along with an apology to the guy he scammed. Don't know why he would want the account back any way since he's forever tarnished the name. Apparently he has over fifty accounts so I don't see why he's that bothered about this one and a handful of others.

It seems the more I talk to him, the less likely he is to give anything back to Timz. Come to prcdice.eu to talk to zolace, he is there almost everyday. He has the money to pay back the wrongs (and gambles a bit). For some reason he thinks everyone else wronged him... I'm still trying to understand that logic. I guess, Never trust anyone selling illegal Credit cards!

To the people who bought cards, are they still working?
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October 08, 2014, 11:48:05 AM
#66
Woah, I never thought that this was zolace's real side.

Did he pay back yet?

Guys, I am helping Zolace repay his debts to Timz. I will message him personally and mediate a solution. Zolace never intended this to go like it did. I hope we can come to a solution quickly. I also hope we can restore the zolace account once this is paid back as he truly never intended for this.
if I had to guess this is an alt of zolace trying to get rid of his neg trust in his now near worthless accounts. I saw a listing for newbie accounts and this is probably one of them.

Also now that I think about it I wonder how many people he did this to. I can imagine his story of giving the "wrong " address to be somewhat believable to some people and they wouldn't think to open a scam accusation or they assume their claim wouldn't be taken seriously.
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October 08, 2014, 11:17:58 AM
#65
Probably zolace want to continue with his business, like a cards or telephone numbers. Using new account with similar offers would be suspicious. Nonetheless I still got nothing back.
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October 08, 2014, 11:09:53 AM
#64
Zolace never meant to get caught scamming and using multiple accounts? No shit. Zolace could've paid the debt off anytime. He had more than enough funds in his alt account addresses. What is his explanation for trying to steal the money in the first place? An interest free loan that he could return whenever he wanted? He did something stupid and greedy and got caught for it and is now paying the consequences.  He also won't get his account back even if he repays his debt, but that's the minimum he should do along with an apology to the guy he scammed. Don't know why he would want the account back any way since he's forever tarnished the name. Apparently he has over fifty accounts so I don't see why he's that bothered about this one and a handful of others.
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October 08, 2014, 10:26:56 AM
#63
Woah, I never thought that this was zolace's real side.

Did he pay back yet?

Guys, I am helping Zolace repay his debts to Timz. I will message him personally and mediate a solution. Zolace never intended this to go like it did. I hope we can come to a solution quickly. I also hope we can restore the zolace account once this is paid back as he truly never intended for this.
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October 02, 2014, 02:44:12 PM
#62
Woah, I never thought that this was zolace's real side.

Did he pay back yet?
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October 02, 2014, 11:28:19 AM
#61
One person legitimately (KWH) suggested the OP post a TXID of the trade in question and several of his sockpuppets chimed in saying that the OP should post this. Zolice was likely betting that the OP did not understand enough about bitcoin to be able to find the TXID (I would speculate that the OP had to learn how to find this after he posted the scam accusation).   
I'm bitcoin enthusiast since 2012. I didn't post many, but read forum a lot. I deeply understand how the network works at all levels. As I said I was surprised that someone can try to cheat 'newbie' such brazen way.
Even if you are an "expert" as to how Bitcoin works, I would still say that you likely would not have posted the proof that you provided if you had not been egged on by zolace's sockpuppets - I think the thread would have simply died and and would be ignored as he was somewhat a respected member of the community
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October 02, 2014, 08:34:07 AM
#60
More of his sockpuppets:

umair9829: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/umair9829-55349
umairsaleem010: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/umairsaleem010-76446

Looks like he also buys/sells accounts here.

Do you have proof? Those accounts belonged to an account farmer (or at least used to - could be zolace I suppose) but I think the umairsaleem010 one was sold to someone and it got banned for 60 days soon after: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/banned-60-days-730320

@zolace  get your spam off my thread.

And im still banned. Also I didnt participate in the same sig campaign.

forsakenpnut is the alt account of umairsaleem010 so the above would suggest it wasn't, unless it was a double bluff.

well if you bought an account for sig purposes then your abusing them anyway cause only one person can participate in the sig campaign one time, thus, the op of the sig should be warned

lol.
lol is funny how you guys try to connect me by names and post activity, etc.  Keep going!!! 
hows this I have over 50 alt accounts, via hero accounts, but most you cant proove there connected.  some accounts you wont even think there alts of me.  Damn time to get to work forgotten password.  how much they paying you?

Ill give you a clue on 5 on that list is right.  most are wrongly accussed, oh wait bad bear is depending on a shared IP right?  now I know to becareful with the rest of them.  good luck.  Ill continue to post to aid my other alt accounts.
I hope you realize that you could have sold your account for more then you scammed for, you would just had to wait for good signature campaigns to come around for prices to go up.

You said above that you will pay timz back but there is no reason why you would need to wait as you had control of the Btc the entire time.

Also are you going to pay back stunna and DB from you scamming them my inflating your post count by responding to your own posts?
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October 02, 2014, 05:25:06 AM
#59
lol is funny how you guys try to connect me by names and post activity, etc.  Keep going!!!  
hows this I have over 50 alt accounts, via hero accounts, but most you cant proove there connected.  some accounts you wont even think there alts of me.  Damn time to get to work forgotten password.  how much they paying you?

Dude, just ignore the comments and pay off your debt as an honest person would.  Then you can go on your way and damn whatever people say about you.  Smiley

I agree, I am better then most of the people can say about me.   Timz even though you think you know who and I am and saying I have alt accounts, Im still going to give your bitcoins back.  I wanted to keep this private fixed between me and you like before but again you pressed to call me a scammer.  Still I feel that this went out of hand and once I get those btc, im going to refund you with the address you gave me in private, Thank you vod for your support.
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October 02, 2014, 05:18:42 AM
#58
lol is funny how you guys try to connect me by names and post activity, etc.  Keep going!!!  
hows this I have over 50 alt accounts, via hero accounts, but most you cant proove there connected.  some accounts you wont even think there alts of me.  Damn time to get to work forgotten password.  how much they paying you?

Those two accounts were not identified because they have similar names or because they log in at similar times.

And I don't care enough to actually go and find your alts and list them out. Why would I waste my time on a bottom-feeder.
Vod
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October 02, 2014, 05:15:51 AM
#57
lol is funny how you guys try to connect me by names and post activity, etc.  Keep going!!!  
hows this I have over 50 alt accounts, via hero accounts, but most you cant proove there connected.  some accounts you wont even think there alts of me.  Damn time to get to work forgotten password.  how much they paying you?

Dude, just ignore the comments and pay off your debt as an honest person would.  Then you can go on your way and damn whatever people say about you.  Smiley
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October 02, 2014, 05:11:14 AM
#56
More of his sockpuppets:

umair9829: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/umair9829-55349
umairsaleem010: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/umairsaleem010-76446

Looks like he also buys/sells accounts here.

Do you have proof? Those accounts belonged to an account farmer (or at least used to - could be zolace I suppose) but I think the umairsaleem010 one was sold to someone and it got banned for 60 days soon after: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/banned-60-days-730320

@zolace  get your spam off my thread.

And im still banned. Also I didnt participate in the same sig campaign.

forsakenpnut is the alt account of umairsaleem010 so the above would suggest it wasn't, unless it was a double bluff.

well if you bought an account for sig purposes then your abusing them anyway cause only one person can participate in the sig campaign one time, thus, the op of the sig should be warned

lol.
lol is funny how you guys try to connect me by names and post activity, etc.  Keep going!!!  
hows this I have over 50 alt accounts, via hero accounts, but most you cant proove there connected.  some accounts you wont even think there alts of me.  Damn time to get to work forgotten password.  how much they paying you?

Ill give you a clue on 5 on that list is right.  most are wrongly accussed, oh wait bad bear is depending on a shared IP right?  now I know to becareful with the rest of them.  good luck.  Ill continue to post to aid my other alt accounts.
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October 02, 2014, 05:09:57 AM
#55
Do you have proof? Those accounts belonged to an account farmer (or at least used to - could be zolace I suppose) but I think the umairsaleem010 one was sold to someone and it got banned for 60 days soon after: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/banned-60-days-730320

@zolace  get your spam off my thread.

And im still banned. Also I didnt participate in the same sig campaign.

forsakenpnut is the alt account of umairsaleem010 so the above would suggest it wasn't, unless it was a double bluff.

well if you bought an account for sig purposes then your abusing them anyway cause only one person can participate in the sig campaign one time, thus, the op of the sig should be warned

lol.

I should have mentioned, umairsaleem010 appears to have been sold to forsakenpnut. I do not think forsakenpnut is zolace, but I am fairly confident that both umairsaleem010 and umair9829 once belonged to zolace.
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October 02, 2014, 04:58:43 AM
#54
More of his sockpuppets:

umair9829: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/umair9829-55349
umairsaleem010: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/umairsaleem010-76446

Looks like he also buys/sells accounts here.

Do you have proof? Those accounts belonged to an account farmer (or at least used to - could be zolace I suppose) but I think the umairsaleem010 one was sold to someone and it got banned for 60 days soon after: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/banned-60-days-730320

@zolace  get your spam off my thread.

And im still banned. Also I didnt participate in the same sig campaign.

forsakenpnut is the alt account of umairsaleem010 so the above would suggest it wasn't, unless it was a double bluff.

well if you bought an account for sig purposes then your abusing them anyway cause only one person can participate in the sig campaign one time, thus, the op of the sig should be warned

lol.
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October 02, 2014, 04:26:16 AM
#53
More of his sockpuppets:

umair9829: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/umair9829-55349
umairsaleem010: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/umairsaleem010-76446

Looks like he also buys/sells accounts here.
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October 02, 2014, 03:45:46 AM
#52
Looks like zolace deleted this post:

Quote from: zolace
I contacted you and try this work this out long ago, but you labeled me scammer the first day of the mistake.  No excuse for what I did.  I even pm you to work it out that day as well but you did it anyway right?    Post all my PMs Tim to show that I wanted to work it out?  Timz I remember who you are, you bought from me once I believe if not then your name does sound familiar as I erase most of my messages I cant recall if I sold you before or not.  I dont care if im paid for posting or now, Im still gonna keep posting,

Its chump change you all can keep your negatives, all you did tim was stopped my one sale at this website, I have other sites I sell from and yes I dont use the same user name so go ahead and try to look for them.  by the way most of those accounts up there are not mine, Thank god you didnt get my other 30 accounts I was smart to keep them hidden Grin  try harder bear, now Ill go back to posting, see ya
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October 02, 2014, 01:33:46 AM
#51
Zolace did ask me to remove my negative trust for two weeks so he could pay off his debt.
Please don't do it before I receive money back. Actually 0.473 BTC is absolutely nothing for me. But I was very surprised how zolace tried to discredit me. Initially I didn't post any proofs here because I couldn't imagine that he don't plead the guilty and will try to blame me! I'm happy to help community to get rid of such persons and alt accounts.

One person legitimately (KWH) suggested the OP post a TXID of the trade in question and several of his sockpuppets chimed in saying that the OP should post this. Zolice was likely betting that the OP did not understand enough about bitcoin to be able to find the TXID (I would speculate that the OP had to learn how to find this after he posted the scam accusation).   
I'm bitcoin enthusiast since 2012. I didn't post many, but read forum a lot. I deeply understand how the network works at all levels. As I said I was surprised that someone can try to cheat 'newbie' such brazen way.
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October 01, 2014, 11:24:32 PM
#50
I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt too, but after the way he defended himself using his sockpuppets, used his socks to attempt to discredit the OP, and now his threats via PM to me...it's getting hard.

Also, zolace, you can't bully me. Many have tried and failed.
IMO the irony here is that the OP would likely have not given VOD the proof nor would have been able to give proof of the scam if it was not for zolace's sockpuppets.

One person legitimately (KWH) suggested the OP post a TXID of the trade in question and several of his sockpuppets chimed in saying that the OP should post this. Zolice was likely betting that the OP did not understand enough about bitcoin to be able to find the TXID (I would speculate that the OP had to learn how to find this after he posted the scam accusation).   
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