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Topic: Scam by Kapitoshka - selling fake software as genuine (Read 1874 times)

newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
How exactly is he misrepresenting what he is selling? I believe this person was fully disclosing that he was selling the keys against the TOS of MSFT and that there is the risk that the keys may not work in the future.

IMO calling everyone that sells MSFT MSDN keys a scammer is only going to make is easier for scammers to scam because they all have negative trust, so it will be more difficult to differentiate from the ones who are currently acting honestly from the ones who are outright scamming their buyers (eg receiving BTC and in return give nothing, ever). This has resulted in many people scamming while pretending to sell MSDN keys, even after they have negative trust.


The issue isn't with the MSDN keys. That's not the reason i have created this thread. In any case, he has never disclosed anything about the sharing nature of these keys in any of his prior sales thread, or any mention that the keys will stop working. No disclosure which you have mentioned.

Some of his other keys are downloaded from public sources (server keys, antivirus etc). They are either hacked or pirated keys. He then passes off these keys as geninue retail to sell at high prices. Buyers purchase them without knowing the truth that these hacked keys eventually get patched. This isn't an outright scam but he's obviously trying to deceive buyers.

Several members including myself have asked him some valid questions about his vps, not only does he not answer them, he reply with tons of vulgarities. Again i don't see why he's not answering simple questions about those servers. Only reason is he can't because he knows nothing about them.
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1268
In Memory of Zepher
IMO calling everyone that sells MSFT MSDN keys a scammer is only going to make is easier for scammers to scam because they all have negative trust, so it will be more difficult to differentiate from the ones who are currently acting honestly from the ones who are outright scamming their buyers (eg receiving BTC and in return give nothing, ever). This has resulted in many people scamming while pretending to sell MSDN keys, even after they have negative trust.
This is a good point, perhaps a neutral rating should be put on in place of a negative to inform people that the keys they are selling will likely stop working if the seller is caught. If every user looks the same simply due to what they are selling it would be difficult to point out those doing it legitimately and those not.
Maybe a sticky could be useful in the Digital Goods section warning people about the dangers of buying MSDN keys, rather than tagging all users doing so.

However, this case is valid. Kapitoshka deserves the negative trust, simply due to the fact that he handles bad situations like a child. Anyone doing that shouldn't be trusted with any money until they grow up.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
How exactly is he misrepresenting what he is selling? I believe this person was fully disclosing that he was selling the keys against the TOS of MSFT and that there is the risk that the keys may not work in the future.

IMO calling everyone that sells MSFT MSDN keys a scammer is only going to make is easier for scammers to scam because they all have negative trust, so it will be more difficult to differentiate from the ones who are currently acting honestly from the ones who are outright scamming their buyers (eg receiving BTC and in return give nothing, ever). This has resulted in many people scamming while pretending to sell MSDN keys, even after they have negative trust.
legendary
Activity: 1033
Merit: 1005
Server 2012 R2 retails for... $289USD

And only if it's a non-profit organization ordering the software... (click the link to discover for yourself)

For-Profit or anyone who does not posses a 501(c)3 certification letter can get it for $534.89USD... cheapest I can find personally.  Again, genuine.

How exactly do you sell genuine for $25?  Just asking because I'd love to get in on this gig if it's legitimate...

No need to quote and inspire my words in each topic

Server 2012 R2 retails for... $??USD

If you are willing to buy at that price contact them and buy it. No need to contact the seller as me here

You rely on something that dare judge me scam (Provide proof me scam as money scam, history scam, photographs scam. This is you trying to convince people to buy somewhere else)

Take a look at the history of your article here

P.S: You can understand what the debate between me and needapss ??

Some final words for you and I do not need to spend time with you
- The best way to check I was selling well or not: Ask those who have bought from my key
- I always give you two choices when trade with me: Escrow or you go first
- If you do not have a choice. Please looking other seller for replacement from me
- When I have I would say that I have it, when I'm not there I would say no. Not necessarily, I have to scam here


OK you're difficult to understand so I'll assume that English is not your primary language.  No problem or insult, just a potential/possible explanation as to why I don't understand your reply.

I'm not accusing you of scamming... others seem to be doing that.  I'm simply pointing out that I can't find anywhere to purchase a genuine license key for even 4x your stated price.  And quotes provide a means to show where I, or others, are getting their information.  You seemed to use them correctly so I'm sorry if I assumed you knew what a quote was used for and you really didn't/don't.

Good luck in your endeavors.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
You rely on something that dare judge me scam (Provide proof me scam as money scam, history scam, photographs scam. This is you trying to convince people to buy somewhere else)

Take a look at the history of your article here

P.S: You can understand what the debate between me and needapss ??

Some final words for you and I do not need to spend time with you
- The best way to check I was selling well or not: Ask those who have bought from my key
- I always give you two choices when trade with me: Escrow or you go first
- If you do not have a choice. Please looking other seller for replacement from me
- When I have I would say that I have it, when I'm not there I would say no. Not necessarily, I have to scam here[/size]



There is already enough proof that you are selling shared/pirated keys as genuine. You simply won't and can't answer my questions a few post above because you know these keys are not legitimate or genuine, and some of them are even downloaded from torrents. If this isn't scamming i don't know what is.
member
Activity: 75
Merit: 10
Server 2012 R2 retails for... $289USD

And only if it's a non-profit organization ordering the software... (click the link to discover for yourself)

For-Profit or anyone who does not posses a 501(c)3 certification letter can get it for $534.89USD... cheapest I can find personally.  Again, genuine.

How exactly do you sell genuine for $25?  Just asking because I'd love to get in on this gig if it's legitimate...

No need to quote and inspire my words in each topic

Server 2012 R2 retails for... $??USD

If you are willing to buy at that price contact them and buy it. No need to contact the seller as me here

You rely on something that dare judge me scam (Provide proof me scam as money scam, history scam, photographs scam. This is you trying to convince people to buy somewhere else)

Take a look at the history of your article here

P.S: You can understand what the debate between me and needapss ??

Some final words for you and I do not need to spend time with you
- The best way to check I was selling well or not: Ask those who have bought from my key
- I always give you two choices when trade with me: Escrow or you go first
- If you do not have a choice. Please looking other seller for replacement from me
- When I have I would say that I have it, when I'm not there I would say no. Not necessarily, I have to scam here
legendary
Activity: 1033
Merit: 1005
Well I don't know anything about the whole thing here but I did take a look at one thing as a form of checks and balances...

[-] Microsoft Windows Server 2012 and R2 - $25

Server 2012 R2 retails for... $289USD

And only if it's a non-profit organization ordering the software... (click the link to discover for yourself)

For-Profit or anyone who does not posses a 501(c)3 certification letter can get it for $534.89USD... cheapest I can find personally.  Again, genuine.

How exactly do you sell genuine for $25?  Just asking because I'd love to get in on this gig if it's legitimate...
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
There is no debate whatsoever. Its been proven beyond doubt that you are passing off hacked/stolen/counterfeit keys as genuine retail.
You also do not have permission to resell the vps that you are advertising.

You are also:

Spamming members trust pages with junk feedbacks.
Posting tons of profanities in various threads
Spamming members pm boxes with profanities
Making baseless claims against bitcointalk staff


True low life scammer.



newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Scumbag spammed the shit out of my feedback page with TECSHARE's message and a link back to his own scam thread. Brilliant.  Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=313016


This low life scum has been doing this for quite a while now. Just keep this thread up for awareness so others don't get scam.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0



It is clear non of the threads above have anything to do with you. You are just randomly linking threads that you have no business with.

Stop posting tons of profanities:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1089813.20
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-1017328


What is evident is the fact you are passing off hacked or counterfeit keys as genuine retail and scamming buyers.


There is enough proof now that this thread is necessary to alert anybody looking to deal with you.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Kapitoshka, read the topic and first post, i have clearly stated the basis of this thread.


You are passing off shared and pirated keys as genuine retail keys. Taking novice buyers for a ride.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12818331

Can you explain the above?



I have also checked with the publisher about the software listed in the following thread. These are also not retail keys.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12837339

Can you also explain the above?



Why is it that when presented with the most basic of questions about the VPS that you are selling, you are unable to answer any of them and instead chose to spam the thread with profanities and then close it?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1089813.20

Can you explain why you seemingly know nothing about the VPS? You have also avoided all questions about the legitimacy of these VPS.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Verify that the key is genuine before sending any money to him. Email the publisher/company to check.

The Microsoft keys are not genuine.  That probably won't stop people from buying them and then complaining when they stop working...
member
Activity: 75
Merit: 10
These are the last words with needapss:

1. Provide proof me scam as money scam, history scam, photographs scam. (This is you trying to convince people to buy somewhere else)

2. This is what I accept when trade: Escrow or you go first.

3. Take a look at the history of your article here

4. You can contact my clients here, they traded with me quickly and well not? (Including members of has reputation here as: escrow.ms, BiPolarBob, nottm28, kuusj98, TheNewAnon135246, Dogedigital, Luckycoin90, petestheman, grtthegreat, tvskit, Treggar, beaknuke, Armando, alesx.onfire, Patel....)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As for me here:

1. Accept when trade: Escrow or you go first.

2. Ensure transactions quickly and effectively

3. After trade with me, you can give me feedback on my topic
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Becareful buying his keys.

Verify that the key is genuine before sending any money to him. Email the publisher/company to check.


Proof:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12818331


He closed above thread after getting exposed and started a new one. He locked the thread too so others can't post in there to warn.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Where is your proof ? He seem to have a lot of vouches and you are just trying to convince people to buy somewhere else from what I see. He also seem to refund in case he don't deliver as should be .



Read the thread.
He sold some guys shared/pirated keys and had to do a refund. He is passing off those keys as retail which is certainly not the case.


His other keys are also shared/pirated.
You can verify with Adobe or other publishers.


I don't need to convince people to buy elsewhere. All the links are found through simple google search.







staff
Activity: 3500
Merit: 6152
Where is your proof ? He seem to have a lot of vouches and you are just trying to convince people to buy somewhere else from what I see. He also seem to refund in case he don't deliver as should be .
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
This guy has also been exposed for passing off hacked and pirated software keys as genuine keys, scamming buyers.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-1017328



Beware dealing with this guy.
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