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Quote from: target on February 12, 2017, 02:49:01 PM

Quote from: geschtonkenflapped on February 09, 2017, 11:46:38 AM

Being scammed in one way or another seems inevitable, what are the clear indicators that a legit-looking service is actually a big scam of some sorts? Is this forum a good place for info to detect a fraudulent scheme?

Yes this forum is definitely a good place to find out which is a scam and not. If someone offers something to you and you find out nothing about them here in the forum, that's probably just one of the scam attempt. so make sure they are here in the forum and had posted an ANN thread.

You see them everyday with new accounts in the forum offering investments that are too good to be true. Its not just investments actually, some are selling something else like digital products and so on. If they mentione about sending your BTC first, thats something to be alarmed.

Yes you are right.
Many people may offer you things that may seem to be very attractive .
But you have to be smart enough to judge that deal.
The best way to judge a scammer is see his trust-
If it's negative then do not trust at all.
If it's neutral still do not trust.
If it's positive then you may trade with him but still be alert.
And also don't get into trap of some services,
unless they are from reliable sources like famous campaigns.
After getting this much info I don't think you will have any problem.

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Quote from: Monnt on March 02, 2017, 10:53:15 AM

Quote from: iram3130 on March 02, 2017, 08:36:38 AM

Quote from: justdimin on March 01, 2017, 03:57:32 AM

Quote from: ipanks on March 01, 2017, 03:24:21 AM

the most website that i know is hyip because they are legit in the beginning and then after 10 days later, the site having problem when we want to make withdraw.

Do not call them legit for first 10 days. Those 10 days are just the baiting period to make you come back with more capital to invest with them

I never called those sites as legit mate. They are scams but we can scam those scammers if we are a little smart and fast to know those type of sites and make profit from them. I know that it's risky but if you have the skills and with some luck we can make some profit with those hyips in the early days.
They all are scammers, sooner o later they'll scam everyone..

Not in this forum, but we can where referral exchanges are allowed people are rushing to find referrals for those sites in those 10 days. They will stop promoting them only they face no payments from them.
People do fail to find the indication of getting scam when they are intensely looking for making money in quick time. Their greedy will go in favour of scammers.

Anything which will target your greedy must be a scam.

The hyip site scammers God is greed of the people and newbies, I have seen so many newbies searching for referrals everywhere thinking that they'll make a fortune out of a dollar o two. If everyone starts asking some basic questions to themselves before investing then automatically these hyip sites will go down in no time.

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Quote from: iram3130 on March 02, 2017, 08:36:38 AM

Quote from: justdimin on March 01, 2017, 03:57:32 AM

Quote from: ipanks on March 01, 2017, 03:24:21 AM

the most website that i know is hyip because they are legit in the beginning and then after 10 days later, the site having problem when we want to make withdraw.

Do not call them legit for first 10 days. Those 10 days are just the baiting period to make you come back with more capital to invest with them

I never called those sites as legit mate. They are scams but we can scam those scammers if we are a little smart and fast to know those type of sites and make profit from them. I know that it's risky but if you have the skills and with some luck we can make some profit with those hyips in the early days.
They all are scammers, sooner o later they'll scam everyone..

Not in this forum, but we can where referral exchanges are allowed people are rushing to find referrals for those sites in those 10 days. They will stop promoting them only they face no payments from them.
People do fail to find the indication of getting scam when they are intensely looking for making money in quick time. Their greedy will go in favour of scammers.

Anything which will target your greedy must be a scam.

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Quote from: justdimin on March 01, 2017, 03:57:32 AM

Quote from: ipanks on March 01, 2017, 03:24:21 AM

the most website that i know is hyip because they are legit in the beginning and then after 10 days later, the site having problem when we want to make withdraw.

Do not call them legit for first 10 days. Those 10 days are just the baiting period to make you come back with more capital to invest with them

I never called those sites as legit mate. They are scams but we can scam those scammers if we are a little smart and fast to know those type of sites and make profit from them. I know that it's risky but if you have the skills and with some luck we can make some profit with those hyips in the early days.
They all are scammers, sooner o later they'll scam everyone..

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Quote from: ipanks on March 01, 2017, 03:24:21 AM

the most website that i know is hyip because they are legit in the beginning and then after 10 days later, the site having problem when we want to make withdraw.

Do not call them legit for first 10 days. Those 10 days are just the baiting period to make you come back with more capital to invest with them.

If you are looking at their business model and the way how they are generating their source of income then you will definitely identify them as scam from day one itself and there will be no need to wait for first 10 days. We are failing to steady the indications clearly and falling with them because they are running their businesses as the legit in the beginning days.

Quote from: ipanks on March 01, 2017, 03:24:21 AM

the other is cloud mining but cloud mining is long enough than hyip sites but in the end cloud mining is getting scam too like hyip.

There are many easy methods are available to find out a cloud mining whether they are legit or not. Because hash power contribution is verifiable but people start investing with them just by seeing their photoshop proof itself.

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Quote from: geschtonkenflapped on February 09, 2017, 11:46:38 AM

Being scammed in one way or another seems inevitable, what are the clear indicators that a legit-looking service is actually a big scam of some sorts? Is this forum a good place for info to detect a fraudulent scheme?

We don't know exactly if the service is trusted to get invest because there are some are legit at first but in the last are scam. Remember, how did they earn when you invest to them and how did you earn also when you put invest, make sure if they earn. Always think in advance if that service is paying until the last of the project.
In this forum, you will know the project or service if it is legit or not.

the most website that i know is hyip because they are legit in the beginning and then after 10 days later, the site having problem when we want to make withdraw. the other is cloud mining but cloud mining is long enough than hyip sites but in the end cloud mining is getting scam too like hyip.

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Quote from: geschtonkenflapped on February 09, 2017, 11:46:38 AM

Being scammed in one way or another seems inevitable, what are the clear indicators that a legit-looking service is actually a big scam of some sorts? Is this forum a good place for info to detect a fraudulent scheme?

We don't know exactly if the service is trusted to get invest because there are some are legit at first but in the last are scam. Remember, how did they earn when you invest to them and how did you earn also when you put invest, make sure if they earn. Always think in advance if that service is paying until the last of the project.
In this forum, you will know the project or service if it is legit or not.

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Quote from: JL421 on February 28, 2017, 06:09:53 AM

You can kind of say that this forum is good for scam detecting but if you see different sites have different scam indicator.
Like for example take this forum itself I a person is exchanging his bitcoins for perfect money and he's a newbie. He refuses to use escrow and tells that he is trusted. So that if one indicator of getting scammed.

Moreover one reference resource will not capable of all the types of scamming attempts nor newly turned / newly launched scams are really hard to be referenced. Only by having self knowledge people will get chances to find out and avoid scams. So, there would be no general guidelines could be possible for finding out a scam.

But, being individual we can have some definitions to identify scams. Like many people mentioned here, anything out of normal in terms of money generation or in simple words just equivalent to fake promises must be subject to consider as scam.

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I would say that this forum is a good place for info to detect a fraudulent scheme because many people is visiting this website and helps everyone of course. Well here everyone has experience in some kind of services or in another subjects and we can review any website if you think that's scam.
Mostly both, scam websites and real legit websites looks great designed and that's because to attrackt clients. To my mind if website has US green layout ssl, every needed documents, office and etc, than 90% such website is legit. P.S don't trust UK green layout ssl websites, it's easy to gain such ssl in UK and that's why many scam and investment websites use such ssl. In usa's situation, it's not like that way.

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You can kind of say that this forum is good for scam detecting but if you see different sites have different scam indicator.
Like for example take this forum itself I a person is exchanging his bitcoins for perfect money and he's a newbie. He refuses to use escrow and tells that he is trusted. So that if one indicator of getting scammed.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on February 28, 2017, 04:12:34 AM

Quote from: Lecam on February 28, 2017, 03:05:20 AM

As a bitcoin trader and as i experienced to be scammed you must not trust those people most specialy on facebook that did not post their true picture as ther profile picture and also scammers will not really going to pay first if they are buying bitcoins. So if you are a real buyer or seller do not give your bitcoin or pay first have assurance and don't think about doing it also because it is a bad thing to cheat.

Talking about making transaction throughout social medias it somehow risky if you arent vigilant enough and you didnt take any precautionary measures and seeking for scam indications. We should really not trust specially on dummy accounts chances of that person is a scammer is high.

I can actually understand why people are not posting real photos on facebook and some other social media sites. But you'd rather not get involve social media wit hit. if you want to make transactions do a record and maybe do it here in the forum with their real account. All there is to keep in mind is that you need not to make transaction to such person particularly, there are lots of people to transact and deal with. Let it pass if you think he can potentially scam you.

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Quote from: Lecam on February 28, 2017, 03:05:20 AM

As a bitcoin trader and as i experienced to be scammed you must not trust those people most specialy on facebook that did not post their true picture as ther profile picture and also scammers will not really going to pay first if they are buying bitcoins. So if you are a real buyer or seller do not give your bitcoin or pay first have assurance and don't think about doing it also because it is a bad thing to cheat.

Talking about making transaction throughout social medias it somehow risky if you arent vigilant enough and you didnt take any precautionary measures and seeking for scam indications. We should really not trust specially on dummy accounts chances of that person is a scammer is high.

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As a bitcoin trader and as i experienced to be scammed you must not trust those people most specialy on facebook that did not post their true picture as ther profile picture and also scammers will not really going to pay first if they are buying bitcoins. So if you are a real buyer or seller do not give your bitcoin or pay first have assurance and don't think about doing it also because it is a bad thing to cheat.

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Quote from: Glucose on February 27, 2017, 02:02:51 PM

There are a few factors warning you of a scam :

1 - If it's too good to be true (be rich in 5 days ! Double your bitcoins in 24 hours!)
2 - If the owners of the website are anonymous
3 - If they don't explain clairly "how" they are going to make profit

The golden rule is to always get some informations before investing. If you are unsure, ask on the forum.
But also : check on the forum (search with keywords), check on the internet, check the trust on the forum, check the comments about them on the social media, etc..

The most important thing before investing is to do proof check on your own. There are many good sites where the owner is anonymous, but they have given Good returns for the investment. On the other hand every hyip site have turned towards scamming sooner or later.
The key to make profit with hyip is to invest and cash out in the very beginning stage of the site.

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Usually scams can be easily spotted especially on investment sites promising too much interest,High Yielding deposits, double your moiney etc. this sites will not last longer.Some are also using MLM's or pyramiding scheme or ponzi schemes which turns into frauydulent over a period of time.

If a person promised you not so believeable interest, I think its a red flag and needs to be scrutinized further. Also when dealing here in bitcointalk, it is much better to use an escrow.

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Quote from: target on February 27, 2017, 12:45:03 PM

It doesn't take 5 minutes to know whether an offer has the possibility of it being scam when you know which is too good to be true and not. Sometimes analyzing just the whole offer can be determined already whether its a scam especially if the other party will insist you to send first the btc.

But if you mean ICO, it does have some grains of truth whether the developers are scamming indirectly.

But you can understand via trusted and feedback their accounts. Most of the newbie and low rank member services will be consider as scam when it is without proper escrow and without guidelines about the services.

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There are a few factors warning you of a scam :

1 - If it's too good to be true (be rich in 5 days ! Double your bitcoins in 24 hours!)
2 - If the owners of the website are anonymous
3 - If they don't explain clairly "how" they are going to make profit

The golden rule is to always get some informations before investing. If you are unsure, ask on the forum.
But also : check on the forum (search with keywords), check on the internet, check the trust on the forum, check the comments about them on the social media, etc..

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It doesn't take 5 minutes to know whether an offer has the possibility of it being scam when you know which is too good to be true and not. Sometimes analyzing just the whole offer can be determined already whether its a scam especially if the other party will insist you to send first the btc.

But if you mean ICO, it does have some grains of truth whether the developers are scamming indirectly.

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Quote from: coynedterm on February 27, 2017, 02:45:42 AM

Quote from: geschtonkenflapped on February 09, 2017, 11:46:38 AM

Being scammed in one way or another seems inevitable, what are the clear indicators that a legit-looking service is actually a big scam of some sorts? Is this forum a good place for info to detect a fraudulent scheme?

If you want to look for the investment in any site or for anything then first of all you should check details or reviews in the google at sites like scamanalyze and the most of the best trusted place to see reviews about the any site is this forum .
Usually the all scam site comes across a bitcoiner who are in the forum and also to those with their friends who are not in this forum .
So at least search about that site in this forum if you got answer about your question then good if you don't found then create own thread to aska and take review for your particular site .

Searching for informations first before tending to put money is really our responsible and you are right there are sites that we could able to use as reference and might help with our doubts related to a site and we should keep searching until we satisfied on what is the status of a certain site.

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Quote from: geschtonkenflapped on February 09, 2017, 11:46:38 AM

Being scammed in one way or another seems inevitable, what are the clear indicators that a legit-looking service is actually a big scam of some sorts? Is this forum a good place for info to detect a fraudulent scheme?

If you want to look for the investment in any site or for anything then first of all you should check details or reviews in the google at sites like scamanalyze and the most of the best trusted place to see reviews about the any site is this forum .
Usually the all scam site comes across a bitcoiner who are in the forum and also to those with their friends who are not in this forum .
So at least search about that site in this forum if you got answer about your question then good if you don't found then create own thread to aska and take review for your particular site .

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