Topic: [SCAM] MASS.NETWORK - page 2. (Read 16801 times)

Oh, I found this post from "massnetwork":


This 100% proves the "massnetwork" account belongs to Alexey Oshchepkov, while he denied that in his last post, saying "I never controlled any accounts belonging to the company including those in social media." !

And that, in its turn, one more time proves Oshchepkov blatantly lies, when he tells he did not control MASS social media accounts (forum is a social media, right?), and also when he tells he was not working on MASS since September.

In fact, he was organizing the ICO during the whole time it was running (August-November 2016), and introduced the 55% late-investor bonus. This is proved by the post below made in November.

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Folks, we need an official statement from Kuzmin, maybe he can explain the discrepancies. Anyone knows how to find him? I suppose posts in different social media (like Twitter, Reddit (involving Rassah), Facebook etc) could tremendously help attracting Mr.Kuzmin's attention.

Better to concentrate on the lier Alexey Oshchepkov. As you can see, even when I put the facts straight, he avoided commenting on any of the real points.

 - Who was behind "massnetwork" account? He neither admitted, nor denied it was him. He tells he had not run any of the media accounrs for Mass, but refuses to tell who run the "massnetwork" account then.
 - Why media articles mention him to be the Chief Operation Officer, while he denies he had any executive position.
 - How it happens that media articles are published in November with him being the main focus, when according to him, he left the project in September.

Bunch of lies, and a foul play from his side is obvious.

Guys, it is very natural and explainable why pianist did not come up earlier with the accusations. Those developers (pianist and his team) were honestly devoted to the project, trying to do everything depending on them, so it could succeed. Even thought he left, other devs were still believing, and would have been very unfriendly and just plain wrong for him to damage the project's image without being 100% sure it is going to be scam.

I also had suspicions and was very unhappy with this project for a long time (right after 55% bonus introduction), but tried to refrain from damaging posts at that time, because the project was still alive, and we all wanted the best for it. I believe the same is true for pianist, in mych bigger extend.

Also please note - at the moment when pianist came to the point where he has left, it was too late to warn anybody, as investment were already done and ICO finished.

No need to accuse pianist, he seems to be our only friend here, and is being honest and helpful, as far as I can see.

I think pianist could've come clean earlier, however the damage was already done.
The blame in my opinion lies with Kuzmin and Ospeckchov. They are undisputed tightly connected and long term partners.

@knowledger / Alex Ospeckchov, you lost all respect when you failed to tell us about where the ico funds went. That fact you tell us mass is an advanced project (yet it has 0 team members) is a joke. It destroys your credibility.

You are at the centre of the these scams alongside Kuzmin and there will be consequences eventually.

First of all, I'm here to help you, and may be a project. Not to excuse for anything.

Why I did not announce? I did not want to harm the project, devs were working. I expected new releases in January, it was surprise for me that development stopped.

Moreover, some guys from Mass team very sad, they wanted me to be on board. They all believed in Mass.

Was Kuzmin's wife Ekaterina involved in business with Oschepkov in 2008-2014?

Were "Know-ledger" and Kuzmin partners for many years? Three ICOs?

http://www.rusprofile.ru/id/1638922

Here is a query to Yandex to find this document:
https://yandex.ru/search/?text=%D0%9E%D0%90%D0%9E%20%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%20%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%20%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%B7%D1%8C%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%20%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B9%20%D0%BE%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2&lr=213

Yeah. Even when you stop working with them, you have never warned investors to stay away from the project and as you can see, there are more than 300 Bitcoin stolen after this scamming project. I do not want to hear any excuses from you. You are bad, you have to admit that
And now, you should do something to help other people to recover their money

One important note.

At the moment when I told Kuzmin that do not want to work with Oschepkov, I did not know that they are in long term partnership and work together for many-many years.

If I knew that they are partners, I won't continue working.

Yes, it's true, I told Kuzmin that I don't want to work with him, because Oschepkov was rude, incompetent and asked me to do fakes for ICO. Later Kuzmin returned him, because I told that he should make refund and restart ICO new way not to become scam.

ICO was not prepared well, I told many-many times in November: make refund and start new ICO with clear rules. I did not quit because devs were working on project, we were on our way to release Mass Android browser.

After "55% bonus" I quit the project. I asked Kuzmin who did this, and he told me that was OSCHEPKOV IDEA to boost ICO. I told him that I don't work with Mass anymore.

Have you seen the post above from Alex Oschekpov? He says you kicked him off the project and he wasn't a project founder.

Normally, you should introduce yourself before asking for that kind of information from someone. I did make my statement the other day and answered reasonable and polite questions.

The information I have provided earlier here is correct:

• Mass is my former client.
  Kuzmin is a representative of this client.
  Kuzmin is not my partner, I do not co-own anything with him or any other person who worked for him.
  I never attempted to hide an identity or anything like this, I just don't answer questions asked publicly by an anonymous.
  I was actually kicked off from participation in Mass in September by Pankov.
  I haven't taken any "executive" participation in the project at any time. I have created some of the content and much of the concept and never hidden that. That has always been advertised on my sites.
  I never controlled any accounts belonging to the company including those in social media.
  I have all the official papers concerning my relations with my client and can present to whatever authorized party.
  As far as I can judge Mass hasn't violated any conditions that all ICO participants agreed with.
  As far as I can judge there's no reason for projects owners to throw it away at this advanced stage.
  I wrote to Kuzmin using the contact that I had but I haven't received any reply yet. There might be some serious matter with him.

I'd suggest contacting wallet employees, they might have a more direct access to him.

Ok, guys, I can go to this thread if you think that I can delete something important.

I have chosen "moderated" thread there just to have ability to remove spam posts, nothing more.

Most of you would be happy to get a job offer from Mycelium 6-7 month ago: well-known brand, interesting project. Moreover, I was told that Bitfury will provide payment solution based on Lightning Network, that's what I liked and I accepted Kuzmin's offer.

Yes, my mistake was to accept an offer. I did not know Kuzmin/Oschepkov before. Moreover, it was a mistake to start new thread on BCT. But as CTO I had to tell technical details about implementation.

I could not imagine that Mass could be a scam project! Charlie Shrem, Sasha Ivanov (Waves), Colu team, Bitfury... I talked with these guys about Mass, we discussed a lot of questions, why should I think something bad?

Now that pianist is involve here,we should stop posting in the announcement thread,and focus here,he could delete all important details about the whole network because he is the thread starter and it is moderated,Pianist maybe knew that this could happen so he set it to moderated thread,scam coins are like that.

Ok, so here we come. I am answering below my own questions, which were deliberately ignored by Alexey "Knowledger" Oshchepkov. Ignored - just because if he answers them, it will be clear he is a lier.

Answer number 1: Alex Kontegna is a pseudonym used by Alexey Oschepkov aka "Know-ledger" aka "Swishcoin" aka "massnetwork".
The company of Oshchepkov is called "Kontegna" too, and is registered in Lithuania (though he personally claims to be in Sweden): http://rekvizitai.vz.lt/en/company/kontegna/

Answer number 2: as "pianist" (Alexander Pankov) mentioned here in November (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17029656), the "massnetwork" account (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/massnetwork-891090) is opened and owned by Alexey Oschepkov. As we all can see, the posts from that account have started coming on Aug 23 2016, when he opened the first (later abandoned) thread for MASS Network, and go all the way to end of November 2016.
I have made a copies of all the posts of "massnetwork" account, just in case if Oschepkov comes here to delete them.

What does that mean?

It means Alexey Oschepkov is a lier and post probably, a scammer too.

See here:

Here Oschepkov-Contegna suggests he was not participating in the project since September 2016, as after Kuzmin has aquired MASS (that was in early October 2016), Oschepkov got his money and completely left the project.

That is a blatant lie, because

1. "massnetwork"=Oschepkov was posting on Bitcointalk a lot in November, and he was the one who introduced the notorious scam-like late investor bonus of 55-65%, and was actively defending that highly illegitimate action. The history of that account can be viewed here, or if it is deleted, I will publish the copies saved at "archive.is".

2. Articles mentioning Oshchepkov as "Chief Operating Officer" (!!!) are published in Nov 6 2016:
http://coinalert.eu/20161113112729-Blockchain+Advertising+Platform+Sees+Micro-Payments+Made+Possible+By+Bitcoin.html
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/mass-network-believes-micro-payments-made-possibly-bitcoin/
http://www.missfq.com/blockchain/blockchain-advertising-platform/
http://www.wanbizu.com/news/201611088061.html

This proves Alexey Oschepkov was actively working for MASS Network in a chief executive position, till the very end of crowdfunding.

Then he got his part of ICO money from Kuzmin (there is a reason to think it was 20% of the whole fund, but that is not verified), and run away to scam people with his new "projects".

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Folks, if we don't get clear answers, and will still be fed with bullshit, we need to spread the word. Those scammers have real names, and they have some reputation in Crypto world, which helped them to organise several money grabs. They either need to start telling truth and deliver on their promises, or be stamped as scammers, with that reputation being ruined, and hopefully with some legal implications.

Still no reaction from "Know-ledger". It looks like I have to answer my own questions myself. I will do that soon, if the person called "Know-ledger" continue to play hide'n'seek. The answers are not that complex, but they are going to reveal some lies.

How can mass.network be a Project when there is no team behind it? Not a single dev. It is a scam.

Know-ledger, I asked you two questions above in this thread. Could you please answer them. If your actions on the project are/were legit, and are telling the truth here, I think it should be very easy for you to address them.
By avoiding them though, you just prove you have something to hide.

They are very simple, and here they are again, for your convenience:

1. You never presented yourself here. What is your (sur-)name? Are you Alex Kontegna, or Alexey Oschepkov, or both?

2. Are you the one who was posting under the "massnetwork" account on Bitcointalk? If not, then who it was then?


Please note there is a reason I ask those questions, its not just my idle curiousity.

My site simply shows the docs that are (1) written by me and (b) if clients that have bought the content don't mind. Mass bought one of the docs shown. Swish — another. I might link docs to the projects that used them or I might not depending on whether I wish to promote someone else's brands on my resources. Swish management, as a matter of fact, decided not to implement the essence of the doc, at least for now, as far as I know. I suggested them to move from being restaurant-centric. Regarding swish, I dealt with Mr. Alongi, not Kuzmin, if anyone cares.

I am not a partner with Kuzmin, he is my client. Two different things. Yes, I have a doc proving that. And I know nothing indeed of his or his enterprise's state of finance. I did let Kuzmin know that people express worry here. I'm pretty sure he will assign someone to deal with it.

Mass is not a "scheme", it's a reasonable project with functioning software. I don't know how many downloads are there for now but it's too early to make judgments—it might gain traction pretty fast. Coin price depends directly on how many people use the app. It doesn't really depend on how well a company or dev team does at a particular point in time.

Know-ledger stop trying to distract us with Russian talk. Nobody has suggested a crime has taken place because of the nationality of the founders.

1) you say you know nothing of the mass strategy or ICO funds. Yet you are a long term partner of Alex Kuzmin and have attempted several schemes since mass. See point

2) Your statement that this Knowledger project has nothing to do with Mass or Swish coin is another lie. Look at the knowledger website. It clearly advetises a blockchain based ad revenue generator (sounds like mass)  and a food payment solution for restaurants (sounds like swishcoin to me).

You have a clear partnership with Kuzmin and if you haven't once asked where all these ICO funds go, then you're either stupid or already aware.

And finally the big question which you failed to answer is where did the mass ico funds go?

Drays open your eyes, they are both involved in this. See my post below.