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Quote from: adameslh on July 22, 2023, 11:34:29 AM

Hello,

I met someone on internet who suggested that I invest in a crypto trading platform that I didn't know about. I did it step by step and made sure that it was possible to transfer the funds back to binance at any time. So I increased the volume and today customer service is asking me to pay 10% of my capital as a fee. What's more, they've told me that I can't pay this fee with the funds available on the platform, but that I have to pay it with funds from another portfolio. If I don't do this, I won't be able to recover my funds on this platform.

The name of the platform is Hitcoin. Here is the message sent by customer service:

Hello, after the Global Banking Regulatory Commission audits your HITCOIN account, according to the standards of the Turkish Tax Authority, investors need to pay 10% tax to the market exchange and the Global Banking Regulatory Commission. Calculate the tax you need to pay based on your profit in the HITCOIN market, -----*10%=---- The tax you need to pay is $----

Pursuant to Rule 21(2) of the Treaty Rules of the Global Banking Regulatory Commission. For tax purposes, all secondary market investors must deposit taxable funds in the secondary market through an external wallet. Taxes cannot be deducted from the account, and you can withdraw all funds in the account after completing the tax payment

Do you think this is a scam or can I pay safely?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Yeah that is obviously a scam. You should really learn to trust your "gut feeling". If something seems too good to be true or even has a tinge of the feeling that something is not right, then that becomes the point at which you should turn around and isolate yourself from the scammers. Why would anyone demand to do your tax for you? Especially a third party cryptocurrency exchange platform?

Obviously the "customer service" is fake. And you might even not notice because some scammers use "spoofing". A technique in which the scammer can make their email address look like the real deal. But customer service will never ask you to transact any amount of money for any reason.

100% scam. Watch yourself, OP...

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Quote from: Adams0001 on July 28, 2023, 06:53:11 AM

90% of online business is a scam, platform that requires you to deposit money and refer friends before you can withdraw is a scam, you can't just join platform that you don't know anything about, someone just send you platform link you should deposit money inside without having any experience with it before, and you recharge the platform account. However, it is beneficial to take risks since if you do not, it would be difficult to identify a reliable platform. I'm sorry that the money you previously invested as a capital has vanished; don't try to send any dollars to them as fees; the platform is a fraud; and you should ponder before doing anything.

Business model an hype where platform build deposit money and get referral link as many possible and earn commission trough with how many member get. For OP cases he found wrong way with deposit fund and deduct fees until 10% because all exchange not take bigger fees actually for depositing fund. I think with many responds OP have been understood what have to do exactly some one ask him for paying 10% fees commission.
Many kinds way of scammer right now, I think have to be smart and ask to group cryptocurrency channel for beginner if required for paying fees when deposit fund to start trading. Don't be shy ask anything about rule in cryptocurrency actually about deposit and withdrawing fund due many scammer are waiting with some hasn't information about deposit fund rule.

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Quote from: Asuspawer09 on July 27, 2023, 10:28:50 PM

I mean what's the reason for using that cryptocurrency platform?

People come to this market other than to make money, there is no second reason and the reason why they fall into those traps is also because of money. They want to make a lot of money without putting in too much effort, and that's what any newbies wants. And of course, scammers always grasp that fatal weakness, and they will never let it go.
Not only OP, I believe many newbies will continue to fall into these old traps because human greed will never go away. But let's look at the more positive side, losing money is not the end, it's just one of thousands of lessons that we need to go through when participating in the financial markets.

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Quote from: adameslh on July 22, 2023, 11:34:29 AM

Hello,

I met someone on internet who suggested that I invest in a crypto trading platform that I didn't know about. I did it step by step and made sure that it was possible to transfer the funds back to binance at any time. So I increased the volume and today customer service is asking me to pay 10% of my capital as a fee. What's more, they've told me that I can't pay this fee with the funds available on the platform, but that I have to pay it with funds from another portfolio. If I don't do this, I won't be able to recover my funds on this platform.

The name of the platform is Hitcoin. Here is the message sent by customer service:

Hello, after the Global Banking Regulatory Commission audits your HITCOIN account, according to the standards of the Turkish Tax Authority, investors need to pay 10% tax to the market exchange and the Global Banking Regulatory Commission. Calculate the tax you need to pay based on your profit in the HITCOIN market, -----*10%=---- The tax you need to pay is $----

90% of online business is a scam, platform that requires you to deposit money and refer friends before you can withdraw is a scam, you can't just join platform that you don't know anything about, someone just send you platform link you should deposit money inside without having any experience with it before, and you recharge the platform account. However, it is beneficial to take risks since if you do not, it would be difficult to identify a reliable platform. I'm sorry that the money you previously invested as a capital has vanished; don't try to send any dollars to them as fees; the platform is a fraud; and you should ponder before doing anything.

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Quote from: adameslh on July 22, 2023, 11:34:29 AM

Hello,

I met someone on internet who suggested that I invest in a crypto trading platform that I didn't know about. I did it step by step and made sure that it was possible to transfer the funds back to binance at any time. So I increased the volume and today customer service is asking me to pay 10% of my capital as a fee. What's more, they've told me that I can't pay this fee with the funds available on the platform, but that I have to pay it with funds from another portfolio. If I don't do this, I won't be able to recover my funds on this platform.

The name of the platform is Hitcoin. Here is the message sent by customer service:

Hello, after the Global Banking Regulatory Commission audits your HITCOIN account, according to the standards of the Turkish Tax Authority, investors need to pay 10% tax to the market exchange and the Global Banking Regulatory Commission. Calculate the tax you need to pay based on your profit in the HITCOIN market, -----*10%=---- The tax you need to pay is $----

Pursuant to Rule 21(2) of the Treaty Rules of the Global Banking Regulatory Commission. For tax purposes, all secondary market investors must deposit taxable funds in the secondary market through an external wallet. Taxes cannot be deducted from the account, and you can withdraw all funds in the account after completing the tax payment

Do you think this is a scam or can I pay safely?

Thank you in advance for your help.

I mean what's the reason for using that cryptocurrency platform? Because if it wasn't really that useful since you already have Binance which is already trusted by the community if it wasn't a great reason use need to use that platform just avoid using that platform, I mean I don't think 10% is reasonable at all I wouldn't do any transaction on that platform if they are going to do 10% every time. So for me, 10% is already a red flag this is more likely to be a scam for sure, so avoid putting more money on the platform, they probably doing it so that people are going to put more money in the platform, encouraging investors, etc is what they want.

There are a lot of alternatives that are already trusted by the community and if your going to the high-interest rate Binance is probably the best exchange where you could do that, there are a lot of other platforms as well but on Binance you could easily trade that investment since its already an exchange, avoid using centralized platform, I wouldn't really recommend putting your money on long term on Binance or another centralized platform, but Binance is convenient on trading.

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Quote from: adameslh on July 22, 2023, 11:34:29 AM

Do you think this is a scam or can I pay safely?

Thank you in advance for your help.

A 100 percent scam bud, and it's even a very old strategy, I wonder how this stupid scammer still get hold of you guys, unfortunately, you are asking this question very late, as I believe you must have probably deposited some money into this platform in the past which through it, you've invested or traded and made profit, now they are asking you to make another deposit before they finally lock you out completely.

Don't listen to whatever big Grammer they are blowing, it's a scam, don't give them any dime of your hard-earned money anymore.

That is it, I don't know why they are taxing the ops 10% because most stock brokers charge 3% and deductions are done from the user's balance, nkf is being asked to deposit a fresh amount while his funds are already locked in there, truly this is a known scam, and ops should consider the money gone, and the best the g to do i. This situation is to move one and report that platform to the authority if he can.

Any platform asking you to deposit before you withdraw your balance is a potential scam, and if there should be any charges they will be on your balance and not being asked to make new deposits.

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Quote from: tjtonmoy on July 27, 2023, 02:09:08 PM

Quote from: savetheFORUM on July 27, 2023, 11:06:45 AM

They don't say anything after that, they will simply block him from everywhere, he won't be able to access the website, he won't be able to send any messages to them, everything just vanishes and that is when he will realize that it was all a scam and he has been robbed out of his money.

Oh no, not true at all. I have seen this happen to a younger brother of mine. He was new to the concept of cryptocurrency. He asked me after sending the fee. He heard that I was involved with crypto from a friend of mine. Then he contacted me. He had already sent the money that they asked for. And then they were saying just what I said in my previous reply. They were asking for more money as it was not "the exact amount" they have asked for. First, he was asking me if I had that many assets in crypto. So I asked why he need that. Then he told me the whole story. So I told him to contact them and tell them that they can take the fee from the account if needed and why should he pay more. So then after talking more, they blocked him. So I guess if they get the first "fee" they will try to get more from you.

It is best to stop at the first one. Never send any more money to them. It is a scam and it's written all over it.

Yes, they won't rush to block us, instead they will drain our pockets until we run out of money or when we discover their scam. This is an old form of trick but there are still some newbies who still fall for the trap. It's confusing for newbies when they rush into the market without even equipping themselves with the basics.
But honestly, I don't feel sorry for the OP, and I think it's good for him because he learned a valuable lesson from it. No one doesn't make mistakes in the early days and I'm sure he will grow up.

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Don't be too fast to rush into things like this. First, you got a message from someone who you don't know, telling you to invest in a trading platform that you also know nothing about, and you went ahead and did that. Are you kidding?
This is a pure scam! Moreover, if it was legit, I don't see how they can't take the fee from the money you have already deposited on the platform. They are scammers, they have already taken your money from you and just trying new tactics to get more money out from your pocket. I would advise you to run now!

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Quote from: adameslh on July 22, 2023, 11:34:29 AM

Hello,

I met someone on internet who suggested that I invest in a crypto trading platform that I didn't know about. I did it step by step and made sure that it was possible to transfer the funds back to binance at any time. So I increased the volume and today customer service is asking me to pay 10% of my capital as a fee. What's more, they've told me that I can't pay this fee with the funds available on the platform, but that I have to pay it with funds from another portfolio. If I don't do this, I won't be able to recover my funds on this platform.

The name of the platform is Hitcoin. Here is the message sent by customer service:

One thing I'll advice you not to take anyone who ask you to invest on social media or online, it is only a scammer that wants to scam you that will ask you to invest, they do not know you or care about you. All they want is to Just succeed to in collecting the money you have. Be careful with platform you found yourself, most of the crypto platform are just scam platform, which you don't need to take anyone you come across in the platform as a friend. People you meet in online platform are strangers who are looking for who to scam.

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Quote from: adameslh on July 22, 2023, 11:34:29 AM

Hello,

I met someone on internet who suggested that I invest in a crypto trading platform that I didn't know about.

This line right here, I would already call it a possible scam. Even if it is like just looking like a cheap promotion of whatever coin they're selling, I am not going to bite the bullet just to waste my time into it. And bruh, HITCOIN? Are you being for real? Do they know how many with "S" are out there (yeah Shitcoins) and now they're just putting their coin into shame.

I wouldn't even bother discussing with this further since it is definitely just a clear scam.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on July 27, 2023, 11:06:45 AM

They don't say anything after that, they will simply block him from everywhere, he won't be able to access the website, he won't be able to send any messages to them, everything just vanishes and that is when he will realize that it was all a scam and he has been robbed out of his money.

Oh no, not true at all. I have seen this happen to a younger brother of mine. He was new to the concept of cryptocurrency. He asked me after sending the fee. He heard that I was involved with crypto from a friend of mine. Then he contacted me. He had already sent the money that they asked for. And then they were saying just what I said in my previous reply. They were asking for more money as it was not "the exact amount" they have asked for. First, he was asking me if I had that many assets in crypto. So I asked why he need that. Then he told me the whole story. So I told him to contact them and tell them that they can take the fee from the account if needed and why should he pay more. So then after talking more, they blocked him. So I guess if they get the first "fee" they will try to get more from you.

It is best to stop at the first one. Never send any more money to them. It is a scam and it's written all over it.

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Quote from: tjtonmoy on July 26, 2023, 12:37:59 PM

What will they say next? The amount you send to us is not near what we asked for? Then they will ask for another transaction. This time they will say that you can not send the missing amount as that is too small to be considered as a transaction. Then they will ask for the fee with full amount that they will give you. The moment I saw that they asked you to calculate the fee amount, this is what came to my mind.

There's no way this is a legit thing. It screams scam right to your face. What you have in that wallet/account, consider it lost. Don't try to get it back or listen to them. Don't put a penny in that thing.
Move on to something new and consider this a lesson. Don't make the same mistake again.

They don't say anything after that, they will simply block him from everywhere, he won't be able to access the website, he won't be able to send any messages to them, everything just vanishes and that is when he will realize that it was all a scam and he has been robbed out of his money. Such scams are increasing day by day and they mainly target newbies because they know they are the most vulnerable cryptocurrency users out there and it is easy to convince them for something like this.

And newbies get trapped in these things pretty easily only because they have the mindset that they can earn a lot of money in a very short period of time with cryptocurrencies, and when they hear the promises made by these scammers, they think that they are actually going to get that much money.

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Quote from: Silberman on July 26, 2023, 01:45:28 PM

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Quote from: tjtonmoy on July 26, 2023, 12:37:59 PM

What will they say next? The amount you send to us is not near what we asked for? Then they will ask for another transaction. This time they will say that you can not send the missing amount as that is too small to be considered as a transaction. Then they will ask for the fee with full amount that they will give you. The moment I saw that they asked you to calculate the fee amount, this is what came to my mind.

There's no way this is a legit thing. It screams scam right to your face. What you have in that wallet/account, consider it lost. Don't try to get it back or listen to them. Don't put a penny in that thing.
Move on to something new and consider this a lesson. Don't make the same mistake again.

The scammers know that the people have become intelligent, and they need to come with new ways to scam people, the ways which do not look scam at the first sight like asking to pay for taxes etc. Some people will find these things legit and they may pay these scammers keep their business running. Sad

Some sites may also give you free money and ask you to deposit certain amount as a proof that you are a human and not a robot. In shorts, many scams are being taking place in cryptocurrency world and one need not to be greedy and do not fall for any offer which seems too easy to get the money.

Remember making money is always hard and usually easy ways to earn money will lead to scam.

I am not so sure I agree with your opinion that people are becoming smarter regarding the behaviors of scammers, a portion of us is in fact improving and getting smarter, but many people never learn, they get scammed and then they fall victims of another scam that is very similar to the one they fell before, after all at their core all scams are the same, the scammer tries to convince you to give them some money in exchange for nothing at all.

It could be the other way around, scammers are getting smarter while people are getting smart. Scammers keep on thinking tricks and traps so that they can extort money from unsuspecting investors. Just like what happened to @OP, they already rob @OP's fund while asking @OP for another money so that they will release the funds. These scammers made an urgency so that @OP will comply thinking that he will get his larger fund if he send the stated tax.

Scammers make us of "the need to do" strategy to milk more money from their victims. I hope @OP did not give in to the demand of these scammers.

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Quote from: tjtonmoy on July 26, 2023, 12:37:59 PM

What will they say next? The amount you send to us is not near what we asked for? Then they will ask for another transaction. This time they will say that you can not send the missing amount as that is too small to be considered as a transaction. Then they will ask for the fee with full amount that they will give you. The moment I saw that they asked you to calculate the fee amount, this is what came to my mind.

There's no way this is a legit thing. It screams scam right to your face. What you have in that wallet/account, consider it lost. Don't try to get it back or listen to them. Don't put a penny in that thing.
Move on to something new and consider this a lesson. Don't make the same mistake again.

The scammers know that the people have become intelligent, and they need to come with new ways to scam people, the ways which do not look scam at the first sight like asking to pay for taxes etc. Some people will find these things legit and they may pay these scammers keep their business running. Sad

Some sites may also give you free money and ask you to deposit certain amount as a proof that you are a human and not a robot. In shorts, many scams are being taking place in cryptocurrency world and one need not to be greedy and do not fall for any offer which seems too easy to get the money.

Remember making money is always hard and usually easy ways to earn money will lead to scam.

I am not so sure I agree with your opinion that people are becoming smarter regarding the behaviors of scammers, a portion of us is in fact improving and getting smarter, but many people never learn, they get scammed and then they fall victims of another scam that is very similar to the one they fell before, after all at their core all scams are the same, the scammer tries to convince you to give them some money in exchange for nothing at all.

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Quote from: tjtonmoy on July 26, 2023, 12:37:59 PM

What will they say next? The amount you send to us is not near what we asked for? Then they will ask for another transaction. This time they will say that you can not send the missing amount as that is too small to be considered as a transaction. Then they will ask for the fee with full amount that they will give you. The moment I saw that they asked you to calculate the fee amount, this is what came to my mind.

There's no way this is a legit thing. It screams scam right to your face. What you have in that wallet/account, consider it lost. Don't try to get it back or listen to them. Don't put a penny in that thing.
Move on to something new and consider this a lesson. Don't make the same mistake again.

The scammers know that the people have become intelligent, and they need to come with new ways to scam people, the ways which do not look scam at the first sight like asking to pay for taxes etc. Some people will find these things legit and they may pay these scammers keep their business running. Sad

Some sites may also give you free money and ask you to deposit certain amount as a proof that you are a human and not a robot. In shorts, many scams are being taking place in cryptocurrency world and one need not to be greedy and do not fall for any offer which seems too easy to get the money.

Remember making money is always hard and usually easy ways to earn money will lead to scam.

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SMH. Now the mean comments here are completely unnecessary. I am also however never ceased to be amazed at the lack of homework people do before making such investments. This is something you should have been asking before ever getting involved in it. Now I know you know this, but it's a valuable lesson hopefully learned.

As a financial advisor spotting scams is a big part of what I do for a living, and there's no question at all that this is one.

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Quote from: adameslh on July 22, 2023, 11:34:29 AM

Hello,

I met someone on internet who suggested that I invest in a crypto trading platform that I didn't know about. I did it step by step and made sure that it was possible to transfer the funds back to binance at any time. So I increased the volume and today customer service is asking me to pay 10% of my capital as a fee. What's more, they've told me that I can't pay this fee with the funds available on the platform, but that I have to pay it with funds from another portfolio. If I don't do this, I won't be able to recover my funds on this platform.

First rule of trading, don't invest in anything that has to do with trading platfrom be it crypto or non-crypto trading platforms because 99% of them are most often than not scammers that will just run away with your money, they are liars, con artist, pretenders and, there testimonies, reviews and ROI are all lies, they are fake and nothing more. It will cost you nothing but your time and capital to start learning how to trade, the next time you see anything similar like this, just run away from them.

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The name of the platform is Hitcoin. Here is the message sent by customer service:

Hello, after the Global Banking Regulatory Commission audits your HITCOIN account, according to the standards of the Turkish Tax Authority, investors need to pay 10% tax to the market exchange and the Global Banking Regulatory Commission. Calculate the tax you need to pay based on your profit in the HITCOIN market, -----*10%=---- The tax you need to pay is $----

Pursuant to Rule 21(2) of the Treaty Rules of the Global Banking Regulatory Commission. For tax purposes, all secondary market investors must deposit taxable funds in the secondary market through an external wallet. Taxes cannot be deducted from the account, and you can withdraw all funds in the account after completing the tax payment

Do you think this is a scam or can I pay safely?

Thank you in advance for your help.

The scammers are daft and not even smart, but perhaps there are people that may fall for this kind of scams, the Global banking Regulatory commision will stood so low to audit your account as if you are investing millions of dollars into that company, that is the first red flag and the second red flag is the 10% they are asking, you are the one to pay the tax from your account and not from the company if at all they are even real, there responsibility is to make profit and charge for there service to begin with. I hope prior to my reply, you have not pay a dim to them, they are scammers even from the write up. Once you receieve such kind of message or mail that is so good to be true, just have it at the back of your mind that you are about to be scam.

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What will they say next? The amount you send to us is not near what we asked for? Then they will ask for another transaction. This time they will say that you can not send the missing amount as that is too small to be considered as a transaction. Then they will ask for the fee with full amount that they will give you. The moment I saw that they asked you to calculate the fee amount, this is what came to my mind.

There's no way this is a legit thing. It screams scam right to your face. What you have in that wallet/account, consider it lost. Don't try to get it back or listen to them. Don't put a penny in that thing.
Move on to something new and consider this a lesson. Don't make the same mistake again.

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This is a big and 100% scam an
D you need to run immediately and I believe you've already made some good and reasonable deposit to the platform but I want you to call it an end and run if you still want to have your funds with you.

I believe you must have heard alot of positive responses from people and you need to stop connecting with that platform and also disassociate yourself from it because it already a very obvious scam that wouldn't lead to any tangibal result.

I'm sorry you have to fall for these scams and I always feel bad when I see people falling for scams like this because I was also a victim of such scam.

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You've been sniped.

That's why it is important not to post your cryptocurrency related stuff in the internet because scammer will surely target you to become their victim. Most of them are using hot girls profiles, but if you're good enough, you can easily tell they are just posers since their friends are all guys, mostly indians or random guys that are easily fooled by catfishes in the internet.

So beware of them, trust your instincts.

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