Topic: SCAM SITE Sportbet.io stealing money ( IMPORTANT ) (Read 437 times)

Yes, there is 1 deed to connect to same wi-fi from multiple account that are not even registered under the same name, which is against their terms and conditions and they have the right to close your account, and there is a 2nd deed to steal your balance that is rightful earned.

If they don't want you as their customers they should close your account and give you your balance and warn you not to open an account with them ever again , but instead they steal your money.

When you place a bet into a casino, no matter if you are with your friend or not, casino if accept the bet then they will pay the outcome, since you did not had any edge on result, period!

But sportsbet.io operate different, they let you bet if you lose, that's ok, continue, if you win then they void your bet, ask for your verification in hope that you have already open another account under same name and then if they see it that you have only 1 account under your name, they still keep their decision because they are scams.

First of all I would like to share my big regret, that I ever register myself to this bitcoin talk forum, you are guys nothing but, crazy guys trying to be smart and correct defending scammers, cause hundreds or thousands reviews of 1 star sharing situation how many time people money was confiscate there it's normal for you.
Your task here I see is defending all scams I think, this category should not be called scam accusations but defending scam accusation.

When I'm reading all of your comments I thinking like about the people who defending world economic forum and some crazy institutions that, trying to be over a law.
You really think they have right to conficate your money for their silly rules ? And you really think they are allowed with law for that ? If they think so how come I could not called them a mafia.

You are not lawyers and you don't know the rights at all I see at all, so please stop trying to defend some scammers without basics knowledge.

You living in a world where you think everybody can create website, casino where rules are for ex. ,, If you register on our website and you deposit more then 100 usd we are allowed to confiscate your money ''  I can give examples and examples and your craziness would have no limits to defend I think everything.

There is a law over their funny created rules of law.  I spoke with 3 differents lawyers about that, I work even now for one client, that he is a great lawyer, and for them this all is a big joke and unfortunatelly you are in it, cause you are blindly so so blindly defending them.

I will say this for your awareness, they don't have any rights to consficate my money legally earned over there, and trying to defend their thievery that I can't play under the same adress. No they don't have rights to do this.



Okey now we now they have crazy rules to have the best chance and fastest one to confiscate the money. ( They think they have this chance )

Sportbet is totally scame site with team of thieves under their cover rules with something that not supposed to be the way of stealing money.

Let take your side smart and correct guys and I will agree on you here with, that my account should be closed cause I was not following their rules, but there is no chance and I really don't how you will now start defending them again but obviously you will start with something   There is no way they can the same way confiscate your money and their terms and rules saying they can close your account, cause of playing under the same adress but not confiscating the money.


Okey agent Smith  

I really don't know how come you could questioned Sportsbet and criticized their professionalism of trying to steal people money in the first better occasion  

Exactly I'm living in the capital of big country where many people living under the same adress, I have plenty of space, I have even my private big gym here but anyway I'm living under the same adress.

Answering your question, the way they doing it I will repeat again they are just a scammers looking for naive people to deposit there money start playing and when winning quickly stealing the money, and if somebody is stupid they will never fight for their rights or if amount is small for one person to open a case against them. For one person it is just spending energy to trying to defend their rights for their consficated money or spending more money for lawyers or idkw, but for sportbet is it lot of money, cause you can see on the internet how often people money are being conficated.

They are extra crazy, that they already know and decided they will steal your money but before that, they would like to collect your KYC for their crazy bandit agenta, cause hundreds or thousands of people had the same situation with sportbet.io

Edit : I'm just spending my energy and time here, seeing how hardly you guys trying to defend scam site, I really didn't know that it is going to look like that. My bad that I was looking for some advice or trying to share the story for someone who don't really know how to help or don't really have basics knowledge. More then that I've just realized that most of you guys here in your profile have the advertisements of other casinos, and now I see your perspective you are trying to defend your colleagues or maybe your companies have similar rules, I'm into a big mess here I see  Not correct site to put some complains for sure. My lesson from here, never try to get help from weird people from internet especially where most of the people or comments are from casino companies or other suspicious companies.

is funny how you are always ready to defend sportsbet.io at all cost, yeah it is not legal to enter someone's home and blabla, but it is legal that somebody to enter your house ( computer, IP and all that stuff ) , ask your ID , then decide to steal your money? if I invite you in my house , do I have the right to rob you? because this is sportsbet.io is doing, they invite us to bet to their sportsbook, and then they rob us.


IF you are lawyer then you will know by now that there are 2 deeds here:

1) This guy bartosz99 did not pay attention to sportsbet.io T&C and both him and his friend were using sportsbet.io connected to same wi-fi, which indeed covers sportsbet.io to close their accounts, but that should not be right for sportsbet.io to keep their funds that are rightful earned

2) If sportsbook take your money that are legit earn by placing bets without any edge and earnings that are not made using a deposit bonus, but only your deposit, then that is called stealing and is illegal, those funds were legally obtain because sportsbook accepted your bets , even if you had a second account , the result of the bet that you made was not influenced by the other account you have.

I would have feel rightful for the sportsbook to keep your money only when your winnings were made from a deposit bonus, but when the earnings are made from the deposit you made then this is not right, if they thought that something is wrong with your account, then don't accept bets, close account before player making any activity or ask his verification from the very first moment he open and account or when he tries to make the first deposit, this will save a lot of complaints from here.

But we all now that the way sportsbet.io manage their activity is a scam, there are a lot of red flags on their website like license only valid few months, there is no self-excluded option on account you have to email them, they close accounts with funds in just because they want even if players prove as the right owner of account.

I don't think Curacao can help you or anybody from this forum can help, you accepted those terms and conditions and even if I find unfair for sportsbet.io to take your funds and I believe they should change their rules, because is kind of stupid if you live in a big city in a building with a lot of apartments you can always connect to somebody wi-fi or if you go to coffee shop / a public place / a sports gym etc and let's say you connect to wi-fi and bet to sportsbet.io then what? if any other gym member / friend etc connect to same wi-fi and have accounts to sportsbet.io then you will have your account locked? we all know that when you are a gambler you have friends that gamble, so you can always visit your friend to watch a match or so and if you place a bet when you are connected to his wi-fi then suddenly you lose your funds?

My questions is why this happens to sportsbet.io always when an account is a winner? why don't close the account right away and refund people before getting to use their website?

And to answer to question about Curacao , they inform me on 23 Feb that they " Curaçao eGaming (“CEG”) is reviewing all the documentation that has been filed by the parties and will either request further information or make a ruling on the matter once the said review has been completed - please note that this review process may take up to 14 business days from the date of this email (or up to 28 business days in more complex cases)."

I believe 14 business days passed but no reply from them.

I feel mad at myself because I questioned Sportsbet and criticized their professionalism.
I thought you were freaking out while you wrote the topic, so your language was like this.
But, After reading your post one by one. I understand where you are from. You are calling them mafia and other bad words. Use your words wisely on the internet. You already agreed that you and your friend were playing at the same casino from the same Wifi in the same house, which is not allowed by Sportsbet. Now you started comparing them with some other casinos. Every casino could have its own terms and conditions, and you have to accept them if you want to play there.

Uhh... may I suggest to you that maybe, just maybe, you can't read? At all? Not just "this bullshit", everything. Even a simple paragraph or two. You certainly can't read sentences on TnC which has nicely describes your situation.

Second, you're wrong, not every site. Sportsbet is the case on point. You can't apply the same rule of "people under the same address" to every site just because one or two site allowed it. I wonder if you're familiar at all with the sentence, "Their site, their rules?"

But yeah, people here are smart, they can see the facts. How difficult is it just to admit that you made a mistake and should just learn from it, and then move on? If you still can't move on, here's a final friendly advice, a real friendly advice: if you still can't accept this outcome, escalate your case to a third party arbitrator. I think SB is on CasinoGuru. I'd like to remind you that it'll just further wasting your time, though. Your case is a clean cut case, all the facts are there and admitted by you that you violate their rules. Trust me, if the facts are not like the one happened here --that SB actually did you wrong-- I'm more than happy to chase the case for you. But you did them wrong, clear as a day, the only thing that could help you is if the SB compliance team got lenient on you and ruled your case as a simple "newbie" misunderstanding. But they didn't, and they have right for it.

Oh, by the way, I think my comparison is dead spot-on.

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Hmm... interesting that you brought up my negative feedback, I can't see the one you referred, where --you said and I quote-- ,,Scamming people, running away after receiving payment for transactions'', can you perhaps show me which person leave such feedback to me? But since you brought it up, let's went a little bit out of the thread main topic and discuss my gleaming negative feedback, which I'm a bit proud of... oh, by the way, I saw you gave me one too, thank you for that.

It is accessible for anyone, but I'll just post the screenshot here anyway, so anyone can easily read them.



Now, let's sort it out from the oldest to the newest,

OldBooks, I'm not exactly remember who he is, and why the retaliatory feedback, but a quick ninjastic search showed me that he got pissed because I'm getting nosy about his bumping service. So, spam or scam or shit poster, or all of them altogether.

xmoneta and Xmoneta_ICO, ahh yess, this one I remembered very clearly as the photos of the team are still branded on my mind. I don't even need to re-read the reference link --which was my accusation against them-- to remember that two of the team members named Aivar and Aivis, brothers. Bottomline, they're scammers who tried to hit-and-run project, created a project called X-Moneta --IIRC, it was a texting platform, but not sure-- and later wrap it up with their investors money, went radio silence, changed their website to a crypto banking few months later. Their website is inaccesible anymore these days, if I'm not mistaken. So, scam.

michaelpopoola, quite sad he and his friend did not put a reference link, their case is quite interesting, but to sum it up, he made a platform, asked his friends and family for positive and fake reviews. Maybe you're quite familiar with an analogy of mother, brother and dog? Only this time we talked in literal way, minus the dog, add his neighbors and his... priest, if I'm not mistaken. Got caught on it. Anyway, we went back and forth about details of their project, or the lack of it, and the fake reviews, they can't answer them --well, basically because they replied me with anger and most likely misunderstood my question, several times-- and went mad. They're no longer exist, though. So, scam.

Next, smartcontract100 and spy100, same person, with hillarious project of "you fund my project and I'll do whatever I want with it. What project, you asked? Ohh, I don't know, whatever I want". So, yeah, not good. Scammers.

Next, we have... oh look at that, you. Hmm... can't say you're a scammer, so I'll leave this one out in the open.

The main bottomline is, every user who left me nagative feedback, it's because they got angry I exposed them. So yeah, you're wrong. Those feedback are not there because I scammed anyone, ever, they're there because I exposed them. I actually wore those red sentences on my feedback page with pride.

Oh, almost forgot, at least you're correct on the very last part of your post, I am an asshole. Gee-zuz, when would people learn to read? I put it there for the specific reason to warn people and to help them from troubling themselves by telling me that, yet there are handful of people --mostly angry people because the fact didn't work in their favor-- keep informing and mentioning this to me. Let me makeit clear: I knoooowwww.

p.s.: this post is specifically crafted for you to emphasize my sassiness and my asshole-ness. I'm quite hungry though, so that might add a tad bit of sassiness level.

And you can't even read T&C and then make a big fuss how you were scammed.


You can check my post history to see that I've recently advised people to stay away from a casino that would not engage in discussion about a case where a player was accused of multi accounting and denied payment after winning about 9k USD and successfully completing KYC. I'm far from being on the side of any casino that takes player's money, but you're clearly wrong.

I was thinking to not spend my energy and reply little bit later but I just can't read this bullshit I just can't.

You tried to be smart but it was really really silly comparison  

What are you taking about, please read their terms and rules then see that this is allowed to play in the same adress.

I'm seeing that you never had any experience with betting on any sites at least little bit longer.

I've never saw such a silly comment about betting and that this way you breaking sportbook rules lol.

In every site, every I can insure you and the biggest one like bet365 it is normal, obvious and many other sites even recomending you highly, that you will invite your, like steve said brother, mother, dog under even the same house. I know many many people doing that for lot of years.  The record I know, that people are all verified 10 of them and playing under the same adress. I really didn't know how come you was thinking it is not allowed.

Please don't write such a misleading comment, cause I know people are not stupid here but maybe just maybe someone will believe you lol, sorry guys for my arrogance but I just really couldn't read that normally.

Edit : look guys on his reference, this guy looks like he is a scammer also, one of many reference according this person : ,,Scamming people, running away after receiving payment for transactions''

I don't know this site and for what reason people are trying to defend scammers being a scammer, but this is showing no respect for the people trying to solve something here and putting their own energy and time writing here some issue.

Now I'm disappointed to who I was answering I just lost my time and energy trying to discuss with such a person -.-

This guy have even a quote under his nickname  : ,, Yes, I'm an asshole '' -.-

Yes, it is possible to play under the same house, you're not wrong about that, but it is forbidden as per the TnC you agreed upon signing up. If I may give you a nice comparison, it is very possible for you to enter someone's home, completely naked, took their jewelries and money, and then take a nice long nap on their couch before you left. No one will say it's impossible to do, but it is not allowed, you'll be sent to prison for that, or maybe a mental hospital, given they found you with your balls fully exposed on their love seat.

Another one that should hit closer, just to help you understand more precisely what your case is: it is possible for you to buy a new phone, root it, or disassemble them into tiny pieces, but you wouldn't be allowed to ask for a replacement after that. Why? Because on the warranty card, which you agreed upon purchasing, it is specifically mentioned that the terms of warranty that you didn't break open the device or root them. Else, the warranty will be voided and the manufacturer or the store are allowed to reject your replacement request.

Same with the TnC on sportsbet, it is very much possible for you to play with your friends under the same house, address, IP, and whatnot, but it is against their rules --which you agreed-- and they have the right to do what they did to you upon these findings.


The person that BitcoinGirl.Club replied, whom shared the same "situation" as you, is-currently-have/had an issue with SB, which he escalated to CEG, for roughly a month ago. Given he never updated his thread, and that the resolution made by CEG seems to happen behind the screen, internally between the parties involved, I would think the resolution didn't work in his favor, thus the negative comment.


Your reply to jeremypwr is not quite relevant to the case, snipped everything altogether.


Again, even if by whatever reason and technicalities you played with different IP, you still came from the same house and address, their rules forbid it. I'm sorry that this next sentence sounds harsh: I'm not sure why up to this point, this is still non-understandable to you. Your problem is not just with IP address, it's also with the physical address, the house, the building itself. You sat on the same roof with your friend.


You most certainly did not know the rules, did not follow them, be it accidentally or intentionally, but you did make a mistake. Allow me to re-quote their TnC:

It is odd that you are bringing up VPN just now. May I remind you what you wrote in your first reply in this topic: "~ we sharing the same wifi so it's obviuos we could have shown exact location." How come you failed to mention your use of VPN then?

Besides, are you aware that there are other ways to find out your real IP address even if you are using a VPN? For example, one of them is using JavaScript and WebRTC. Do you turn off JavaScript for all the websites you visit while surfing the web? I guess not.

Hello everyone,

Sorry for not answering but after I read lot of bad reviews and many people the same situation I'm pretty sure I will have to fight with them in another way and I skipped a little bit this forum as I start thinking I will not receive from here any help.

I would like to clarify something here.

First of all Steve, bandit and mafia like somebody great quoted me, done nothing more with this case, they've just confirmed what I stated, that they closed my account and confiscated all my money without clear proofs or anything in this matter, they are too lazy and they are to big scam for that. Real company would never treat like this people without showing them any proofs and not asnwering for the questions.  Nothing changed they are still scammers, that I see whole internet knows about it.



I was reffering to the account of my friend I can't say to you in 100% what he was doing over there. I can only say what I was doing on my account.

Sharing the same wifi doesn't mean you share the same IP.

It is possible to play under the same house from what I know.

Trust me Steve don't care he knows the case is closed and he can only laugh as a maybe owner how they easily confiscating the money from the people, it's not first time there is thousands of those exactly situations where people have been roobed with the same way, read internet and reviews about them on trustpilot, reddit or wherever.



No, its not true They don't have great history with paying money back lol, read the internet plus I have many people who dm me with the same case where their money have been confiscating without a real reason, case like mine typically.



I feel your sarcasm. Being honest I don't know for who you have great reputation haha, read all internet about your bandit act how often you are stealing the money from people.
If you think you have some reputation it's only a fake one, that I can insure you.
Even though vpn is turned on ? Cause normally I'm not surfing without having VPN turn off cause, for my security reason to all the website no matter which one.
Think what you want I did not make any mistake I knew the rules and I followed them.



Sorry from my english, hope you could understand well.

Amazing how many people who have been here a long time and seen threads resolved by the Sportsbet representatives repeatedly, are so eager to jump in on the side of random, incoherent and inconsistent newcomers. Every case should be looked at objectively, but reaching out to the responsive Sportsbet account here would solve many of these problems, instead of riling and ramping threats straight up.

Uhh... ?

If you read the entire thread, you'll understand that OP practically dig his own grave. Possibly unintentionally, but he and his friend still breached the TnC by utilizing bonus under the same address and/or household and/or IP. The agreed condition upon signing up was violated by the OP, and he --well, both of them-- agreed that upon such situation SB has the right to freeze their account and funds, so yeah, the decision is pretty much based on SB decision, but it was taken with consideration from what OP did. It is pretty much on SB's hand and rightful option if they would choose to ice them or to go lenient.

Even if they go to an arbitrator, the outcome would pretty much be the same. I kinda confident the staff of those third parties will also agree that OP breached a clause or two, thus the banning is justified.

No response from OP yet. Glad to know that the case is now closed. May we know how it was closed? Did he complain to 3rd party mediator or License company, and did you prove anything to the third-party mediator? I want to know how it was closed. I hope it's not just based on your own decision.

This is not how you should write a public statement. You could have written it more gently.

@OP, I feel you violated the terms and conditions (Judging from your words). This is not how you should complain. You should have a good point about why you are not guilty. Don't get go crazy, and don't get mad. Your wall of text swearing won't make any difference. Prove the claim if you are not guilty (Not to us, but to some 3rd party Mediator). As Sportsbet said, the case is closed from their side. If it's closed from your side as well. Glad to know that. Don't repeat the same mistake.

If you were using the same WiFi network, then you two really had the same IP address. When you connect to a WiFi network, your device is assigned a local IP address by the router. This local IP address is only used within the network and is different from the IP address assigned by the ISP. So, while two people using the same WiFi network may have different local IP addresses, they will have the same IP addresses assigned by the ISP.


Well, you may not like it, but those are the rules. And, you have to respect them if you want to use a specific platform.

Hi guys,

Just so you know, this case is now closed.

The mother, brother, sister, daughter, cat, dog, and mail-man account has also been closed.

We've all done it, just don't go crazy when you've been caught

regards,

Steve.
Sportsbet.io

I would bet my near 10 year forum reputation that this is not the case.

Steve the "bandit" and "mafia" has been notified of you/your friend's issue.

Which is why something about this story doesn't seem to add up.

At first I thought you got a wrong company name but after visiting the site I realized it's indeed sportsbet.io. I didn't know that they already had the domain without "s" too.

When you register a gambling site, you need to follow their terms and conditions so that later you don't cry. Almost all gambling websites have a general rules that one can not create multiple accounts under the same roof. It does not matter if that is two or more person.

But sportsbet have a long history of paying their players. I hope they will look into OPs case again. If they do anything then it will be from the good gesture they have.

I think I'm confused?

FIrst, I think I don't understand you completely on "it wasn't my account". You're saying you borrowed and played from your friend's account instead of creating your own with your email address, username, etc.?

Second, how does sharing wifi doesn't translate as you shared the same main IP address?

Third, let's assume by some reason you both played on different IP, it still breaches their TnC --which you and/or your friend agreed upon signing up-- under the clause of same household and address.

I think no one has notified Steve yet, I'll PM him so he can give his insight on this matter.

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Edit: PM sent.

I can't say in 100% cause it wasn't my account just guessing with high probability, anyway I'm not even sure if we was sharing the same IP adress, that we share the same wifi it doesn't mean we shared the same IP adress being honest I don't think so. I've just give an exampel cause it could be also used roeming for that.
How come after recomendation someone could force somebody to stop taking some rewards from betting ? it's sick. They have to send me some proof cause I don't really know and they just closed the case not even showing any proofs.