I live in the Tampa, FL area which is not Far from NPR area maybe an Hour, If people would like I would be Willing to Go to the address listed and Try and make personal Contact with this person, and even Video record the WHOLE event so that he cant say that i threatened him or anything i would just tell him that the site was his and that since the site was his property reguardless if the servers were mikes that because the site was his that it makes him responsible for ALL LOSSES on the site, and that by Hiring Mike's servers that mike is now in his employ and also makes him responsible for anything that mike does, and that unless he takes the steps to take legal action against mike then he is SOLELY responsible for ALL LOSSES
But I will not do this for FREE as gas and my time do Cost
Topic: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested (Read 5167 times)
Also, someone (or someones) ought to take the task of writing up a clear, concise and supported "timeline and fact summary" to brief these folks and speed the process.
Preponderance of evidence in civil matters is important.
Both sides are going to need to do this. Without it getting legal assistance is going to cost you a lot more as you pay for the time, including the time it takes to explain it all.
waste of time 
Mike (Micheal?) Burns
9600 Spanish Steps Lane
Las Vegas
Could be an old adres though. Mike is proving harder to track down due to his common name.
9600 Spanish Steps Lane
Las Vegas
Could be an old adres though. Mike is proving harder to track down due to his common name.
Also, someone (or someones) ought to take the task of writing up a clear, concise and supported "timeline and fact summary" to brief these folks and speed the process.
Preponderance of evidence in civil matters is important.
Preponderance of evidence in civil matters is important.
Feel free to use whatever you want from my original Phenix scam thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/exposing-phenixcoin-the-hype-and-possible-scam-267301
Even though we had some arguments I am truly sorry for all of you who ended up in this mess and I hope you catch these momos.
The status of the tracking now says " NOTICE LEFT "
Im guessing he wasnt home and USPS left a notice saying he can pick it up at the post office.
Im guessing he wasnt home and USPS left a notice saying he can pick it up at the post office.
He is probably enjoying the stolen BTCs + the BTCs from premine dump and enjoying the BTC boom.
Turns out I grossly over-estimated the US Postal Service. It takes them a FULL WEEK to deliver a first class, certified letter.
According to the tracking info, it's still in the sorting station.
My plan was to allow John a week to get the funds together to pay us back, starting from the moment he got the letter. So I;m thinking about giving him a week from today. What do you guys think ?
According to the tracking info, it's still in the sorting station.
My plan was to allow John a week to get the funds together to pay us back, starting from the moment he got the letter. So I;m thinking about giving him a week from today. What do you guys think ?
I recommend doing that. That's the correct thing to do.
Turns out I grossly over-estimated the US Postal Service. It takes them a FULL WEEK to deliver a first class, certified letter.
According to the tracking info, it's still in the sorting station.
My plan was to allow John a week to get the funds together to pay us back, starting from the moment he got the letter. So I;m thinking about giving him a week from today. What do you guys think ?
According to the tracking info, it's still in the sorting station.
My plan was to allow John a week to get the funds together to pay us back, starting from the moment he got the letter. So I;m thinking about giving him a week from today. What do you guys think ?
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.
How can we help?
I imagine that John will come to this thread after he reads the leter that I've sent him. Showing willingness to go after him should help. I want him to see that we're not going to let them keep our money. Willingness to sue and willingness to spread the word that he can't be trusted ( and preventing him from scamming others that way ! ) should be a strong insensitive to pay us back, if keeping a clear conscience is not enough reason.
So post about what you are willing to do if we get nothing from him after the deadline runs out.
0.0018733 BTC
8000 SXC
BTC: 1NmWTFjFgxd9jPu7fVcZ6YoZ53BHSXL2hr
SXC: SLDMAZRJy4QU2EmWfw8Rdcnu46pqL4g29c
Cryptsy tradekey: 285891dce6538716b917c7d42c1fe7c00d4fb1c
After losing almost 0.25 BTC worth of PXCs at coins-e I had decided not to use any more dodgy exchanges. But PhenixEx was the only one trading SXC at that time
8000 SXC
BTC: 1NmWTFjFgxd9jPu7fVcZ6YoZ53BHSXL2hr
SXC: SLDMAZRJy4QU2EmWfw8Rdcnu46pqL4g29c
Cryptsy tradekey: 285891dce6538716b917c7d42c1fe7c00d4fb1c
After losing almost 0.25 BTC worth of PXCs at coins-e I had decided not to use any more dodgy exchanges. But PhenixEx was the only one trading SXC at that time
I have refunded your 8000 SXC, because I think sex should never be a bad experience. If any of the devs want to donate a refund:S16zpr18SugJcemZQTgzWbMhwpzddnt8ic
Thanks for that
I saw it come in and thought these guys are now refunding. Now I see the scammers are still at large.
I've a very good law firm in FL.
PM me if you want contact info.
Also, someone (or someones) ought to take the task of writing up a clear, concise and supported "timeline and fact summary" to brief these folks and speed the process.
Preponderance of evidence in civil matters is important.
PM me if you want contact info.
Also, someone (or someones) ought to take the task of writing up a clear, concise and supported "timeline and fact summary" to brief these folks and speed the process.
Preponderance of evidence in civil matters is important.
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.
How can we help?
I imagine that John will come to this thread after he reads the leter that I've sent him. Showing willingness to go after him should help. I want him to see that we're not going to let them keep our money. Willingness to sue and willingness to spread the word that he can't be trusted ( and preventing him from scamming others that way ! ) should be a strong insensitive to pay us back, if keeping a clear conscience is not enough reason.
So post about what you are willing to do if we get nothing from him after the deadline runs out.
0.0018733 BTC
8000 SXC
BTC: 1NmWTFjFgxd9jPu7fVcZ6YoZ53BHSXL2hr
SXC: SLDMAZRJy4QU2EmWfw8Rdcnu46pqL4g29c
Cryptsy tradekey: 285891dce6538716b917c7d42c1fe7c00d4fb1c
After losing almost 0.25 BTC worth of PXCs at coins-e I had decided not to use any more dodgy exchanges. But PhenixEx was the only one trading SXC at that time
8000 SXC
BTC: 1NmWTFjFgxd9jPu7fVcZ6YoZ53BHSXL2hr
SXC: SLDMAZRJy4QU2EmWfw8Rdcnu46pqL4g29c
Cryptsy tradekey: 285891dce6538716b917c7d42c1fe7c00d4fb1c
After losing almost 0.25 BTC worth of PXCs at coins-e I had decided not to use any more dodgy exchanges. But PhenixEx was the only one trading SXC at that time
I have refunded your 8000 SXC, because I think sex should never be a bad experience. If any of the devs want to donate a refund:S16zpr18SugJcemZQTgzWbMhwpzddnt8ic
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.
How can we help?
Taking that first step may also be an innocent way to show your seriousness of intent.
Good idea.
John lives in New Port Richy, FL.
Mike's in Las Vegas, NV
The letter should be in John's mailbox any time now, by the way.
The last time I had contact with John was more then a week ago. I have his personal phone number. Last time we spoke he promised he would check up on Mike again. I then had a short conversation with Mike on Skype in which he only kept repeating he's working as fast as he can and that I can ask questions via email, using [email protected].
He has, however, not responded to my emails since. Also, John has changed his phone number, and the email adres he gave me ( [email protected] ) is not accepting incoming mail at all.
Both John and Mike are now completely ignoring or actively blocking any attempt for anyone in the crypto world to contact them.
They are trying to hide behind a veil of anonymity. Cowards.
I'm not going to allow them to run away from their responsibilities. Mike messed up in a big way, but the exchange, and all assets concerning it belong to John. So he can't simply blame Mike and get on with his life. Ignoring us does not make the problem go away.
The thing is : I know exactly who they are. Their real names, adresses, everything. So here's my plan :
I'm going to send them a letter by old fashioned airmail, in which I demand the coins to be refunded to their respective owners. I will give them a ten day period in which they get the chance to put the money together, in case Mike ran off with it. If they fail to comply I will then post their full identities here and assist everyone to report them to the authorities.
To be absolutely clear ; I DO NOT want anyone to threaten them with violence, or have anyone bother their families. Lets keep this civil, but let's get what we deserve.
I'll post the letters tomorrow.
He has, however, not responded to my emails since. Also, John has changed his phone number, and the email adres he gave me ( [email protected] ) is not accepting incoming mail at all.
Both John and Mike are now completely ignoring or actively blocking any attempt for anyone in the crypto world to contact them.
They are trying to hide behind a veil of anonymity. Cowards.
I'm not going to allow them to run away from their responsibilities. Mike messed up in a big way, but the exchange, and all assets concerning it belong to John. So he can't simply blame Mike and get on with his life. Ignoring us does not make the problem go away.
The thing is : I know exactly who they are. Their real names, adresses, everything. So here's my plan :
I'm going to send them a letter by old fashioned airmail, in which I demand the coins to be refunded to their respective owners. I will give them a ten day period in which they get the chance to put the money together, in case Mike ran off with it. If they fail to comply I will then post their full identities here and assist everyone to report them to the authorities.
To be absolutely clear ; I DO NOT want anyone to threaten them with violence, or have anyone bother their families. Lets keep this civil, but let's get what we deserve.
I'll post the letters tomorrow.
If this is your proposed course of action... You can start by simply posting the relevant jurisdiction so that remote folks can start spinning up their "Small Claims" documents or contacting the local solicitor to them, and then just fill in the details when the rest of the information is made available.
One of the sometimes unfortunate benefits of crypto is that when folks run off, they can move quickly, so attaching illiquid assets with liens and such has to be done with some alacrity and justice tends to be slow at times.
Taking that first step may also be an innocent way to show your seriousness of intent.
I don't think they are gonna care at all if they get a scammer tag. They haven't logged in in almost two weeks. After the 22nd I'm going to post their real names and addresses though, so we can name and shame them as well as sue them.
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.
They'll eventually come back.
I don't think they are gonna care at all if they get a scammer tag. They haven't logged in in almost two weeks. After the 22nd I'm going to post their real names and addresses though, so we can name and shame them as well as sue them.
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.
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