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hero member
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Don't joke with my Daughter
October 20, 2023, 02:30:33 AM
#36
Buying or aelling account is not good as it can increase spam or scam. The evidence you have provided which is conversation on the telegram and those type of chat can  be manipulated and also it is easy to show the same name and it is too hard to know who is the real or not. So never rely on telegram chat.

The worst place ever to deal with someone as chats can be deleted and manipulated that is why if someone asked me of my telegram handle I prefer handling the business here or WhatsApp instead of telegram and I will never believe any telegram chats because few people had tried to force themselves on me when I just lodged a complaint about my coin not quickly delivered on the exchange and I got series of feedback in my inbox as admin which to me I know that no admin would pm first. So judging through that I can say message from TG can be scam attempts.
copper member
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October 19, 2023, 08:01:18 PM
#35
Buying or aelling account is not good as it can increase spam or scam. The evidence you have provided which is conversation on the telegram and those type of chat can  be manipulated and also it is easy to show the same name and it is too hard to know who is the real or not. So never rely on telegram chat.
legendary
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October 14, 2023, 05:28:59 PM
#34
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If he's a scammer and you're also not less than a scammer, and I believe a scammer scammed another scammer and in this scamming game an escrow was also added which turned out to be a scammer.
Scammer scammed the scammer- then the scammer responsible for being in escrow also scammed the scammer. So this is a scammer deceptive a scammer and the scammer succeed scammed. Did I conclude it correctly?

I'm not sure how I could have said it clearly - but it sounds like you said it right; scammer succeed scammed scammer. I checked his trust page and I agree that he probably hasn't repented for his mistakes since 2018.
hero member
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Top Crypto Casino
October 14, 2023, 05:04:24 PM
#33

I contacted them on Telegram and suggested using escrow...

As you can see I picked a trusted bitcointalk profile as escrow but he invited his own scammy lookalike account into the escrow group chat.
I'm an idiot for sending him 105$ in BTC like this... His fraud is revealed now I hope more is found out and he's fully exposed.
Greatful for any help.

To the scammer, please return my money...

Kindly take my words personally, you deserve to get lose your money because you did something which is totally unacceptable in this forum. You can see that you get some negative trust because of your actions. It's really not fair to buy an account from an account farmer and then use it in order to participate in signature campaigns. You both have similar mindset because you were trying to scam other by getting a ranked account and he scammed because he knew about you greed.

If he's a scammer and you're also not less than a scammer, and I believe a scammer scammed another scammer and in this scamming game an escrow was also added which turned out to be a scammer. I don't feel bad for you because you were doing a wrong thing, however you have done a good job by reporting that scammer so other newbie member will get awareness about such scams.
legendary
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October 13, 2023, 05:37:45 PM
#32
His pictures weren't at scale. This is an irrelevant comparison by BITCOIN4X tbh.
I don't have time to argue with you, let alone convince you. Accept the consequences of what you did greedily, the fact is that you believe the scammer more than the people who fight him.

Everything is clear and there is nothing to argue about. Google+ was not sold by the original owner, but the account was sold by someone else who faked his identity. The email in the image appears to be valid from an account, but I'm not sure who the owner is. Email searches are not allowed, so there is no way to find out who the owner is.
legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
October 13, 2023, 05:38:09 AM
#31
Are you disregarding the fact that the email in the screenshot is actually a valid bitcointalk account email account? This can be easily checked.

Do you mind tell me how? I don't even know there is a way to check an email address belongs and registered to whose account, forum doesn't allow a search by email address and won't show someone's registered email without their consent.

His pictures weren't at scale. This is an irrelevant comparison by BITCOIN4X tbh.

Scaled or not scaled will not be a different, the format will still shows that each columns are aligned. For added information, the screenshot I made was from a tablet, so it's a "scaled" version.
newbie
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October 13, 2023, 05:11:51 AM
#30
Are you disregarding the fact that the email in the screenshot is actually a valid bitcointalk account email account? This can be easily checked.
At this point, it does not matter whether the email address is valid or not, the screenshot appears to be doctored if you carefully look at it (Please refer to BITCOIN4X's reply)

And he was also trying to show you that someone can easily alter the details in the screenshot without breaking a sweat.
His pictures weren't at scale. This is an irrelevant comparison by BITCOIN4X tbh.
legendary
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Heisenberg
October 13, 2023, 04:57:27 AM
#29
Are you disregarding the fact that the email in the screenshot is actually a valid bitcointalk account email account? This can be easily checked.
At this point, it does not matter whether the email address is valid or not, the screenshot appears to be doctored if you carefully look at it (Please refer to BITCOIN4X's reply)

And he was also trying to show you that someone can easily alter the details in the screenshot without breaking a sweat.
legendary
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October 13, 2023, 04:41:48 AM
#28

Are you disregarding the fact that the email in the screenshot is actually a valid bitcointalk account email account? This can be easily checked.

You can substitute any email that remains open for any account, and when asked, you will be given a response that a password has been sent to you.
newbie
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October 13, 2023, 04:29:31 AM
#27
I'd also like to use this chance to publicly apologize for the inconvenience Google+ experienced because I jumped too fast and didn't notice the signs of doctored image.

nutildah and Little Mouse, do you both mind to remove the neutral tag against Google+? I apologize to you both too for any inconvenience happened from your side.

OK done. I suppose it is too easy to fake a screenshot.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/13/REhxv.png
Are you disregarding the fact that the email in the screenshot is actually a valid bitcointalk account email account? This can be easily checked.
legendary
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October 13, 2023, 04:23:37 AM
#26
OP is not newbie at this forum

Has anyone thought of another option? The OP's account has been registered for quite some time. I can assume that this account of his was also bought, and then a story was invented about falsifying screenshots.

If you look at his reviews, you can conclude that he has experience in buying and selling accounts.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=740982
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=406909
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=326007
legendary
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October 13, 2023, 12:21:13 AM
#25
I'd also like to use this chance to publicly apologize for the inconvenience Google+ experienced because I jumped too fast and didn't notice the signs of doctored image.

nutildah and Little Mouse, do you both mind to remove the neutral tag against Google+? I apologize to you both too for any inconvenience happened from your side.

OK done. I suppose it is too easy to fake a screenshot.

newbie
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October 12, 2023, 07:22:40 PM
#24
It's almost certain that the account is opperated by the scammer.

If you try to reset pasword by entering this emai, you get a message that a mail has been sent. You only get this for valid emails entered into a bitcointalk account. So there's no other way.
legendary
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Heisenberg
October 12, 2023, 05:53:05 PM
#23
I think BITCOIN4X has told us one thing with a comparison of those two screenshots - but if any of us need something more convincing, ask Google+ to sign the message or perhaps display the account email. I don't need to force him to do that – but maybe he needs to clear his name.
Signing a bitcoin message does not prove on whether, he tried to sell the account or not. It only proves that he is still in control of the account. So if he a ttempted to sell the account and then failed to do so. He can easily sign the message.

Otherwise, the screeshoot seems doctored though the way Google+'s profile lay out appears is different from how most profiles appear including Theymos' simply because his profile contains no Bitcoin address.

There's some history of password changes Google+ has made so far based on bpip - but I don't see him having changed email in the last few months. But since email is private for some users - then I'm not sure we need to require them to post it publicly.
BPIP does not record email address changes.

Also, look what I just did with in a minute and [email protected] is not even my email address  Grin

legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
October 12, 2023, 05:22:26 PM
#22
I contacted Google+ via PM pointing to this discussion and since he replied, I assume he knows about this thread.
[...]

There's some history of password changes Google+ has made so far based on bpip - but I don't see him having changed email in the last few months. But since email is private for some users - then I'm not sure we need to require them to post it publicly.


I just PMed by Google+. He shared a screenshot of his profile with me, showing his account's email address to me. It is different from the one shown by @alex2012. Given seclog didn't show a change of email from his account recently, I can vouch that he's not part of this scam-attempt/account-selling.

I'd also like to use this chance to publicly apologize for the inconvenience Google+ experienced because I jumped too fast and didn't notice the signs of doctored image.

nutildah and Little Mouse, do you both mind to remove the neutral tag against Google+? I apologize to you both too for any inconvenience happened from your side.



He always can sign messages on some of his previously used BTC addresses to prove ownership of his account.

[...] ask Google+ to sign the message [...]

He did sign a message at one point, but I am not sure if the address is still accessible to him.

Google+, if you read this [as I didn't write this on my reply to his PM, stupid me], can you confirm if you still has access to bc1qr40dwlh5wywg99967j0fc02es97mf0luzgvf3j or not? If you don't, it might be useful for you to... re-stake your address.
legendary
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October 12, 2023, 04:13:51 PM
#21
OP, you deserve all the negative tags and I will advice you to learn from your mistake and create a new account. There is no short cut to success. You gotcscammed because you wanted to reap from where you did not sow.
OP is not newbie at this forum - so I'm not sure if this advice is useful to him because I think he already knows a lot of things even though he posted this scam case with a newbie account. Moreover, I'm sure he had been completely scammed because of his inability to verify the account being sold because he only focuses on high rankings and screenshots - but he forgets that scammers have a million tricks to trick their victims.

I think BITCOIN4X has told us one thing with a comparison of those two screenshots - but if any of us need something more convincing, ask Google+ to sign the message or perhaps display the account email. I don't need to force him to do that – but maybe he needs to clear his name.

There's some history of password changes Google+ has made so far based on bpip - but I don't see him having changed email in the last few months. But since email is private for some users - then I'm not sure we need to require them to post it publicly.

legendary
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October 12, 2023, 02:54:26 PM
#20
I guess there were no easy way to prove the ownership, even if Google+ come and answer here, it'll be a classic he-said-she-said.

I contacted Google+ via PM pointing to this discussion and since he replied, I assume he knows about this thread.
He always can sign messages on some of his previously used BTC addresses to prove ownership of his account.

Buying account and selling of account is against the forum rules

Where did you see that rule?

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.
sr. member
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October 12, 2023, 02:30:11 PM
#19
Buying account and selling of account is against the forum rules, and I don't see any reason one will want to buy an account that he doesn't even know anything about the seller, if he is selling the account due to some bad reputation on the account. Lazy and greedy people are the ones that are always after account buying because they don't want to learn and grow but they want to start earning immediately from the forum. If not I don't see why a newbie wants to pose as a Legendary member with nothing upstairs. OP, you deserve all the negative tags and I will advice you to learn from your mistake and create a new account. There is no short cut to success. You gotcscammed because you wanted to reap from where you did not sow.
legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
October 12, 2023, 02:20:37 PM
#18
[...]

Here's the comparison:

[...]

Interesting finding. That explains what I've been wondering since yesterday by a lot: how he removed the neutral tag given by actmyname. I initially thought he temporarily distrust AMN, I checked his trust list during the time to confirm this, and [as there were no info of such] I thought he did it for about minutes, just enough to make a screenshot, and then delete his list, so the weekly record didn't archive that.

But editing the upper part of the page [or the lower part] made way much sense.

I happen to have screenshots of profile pages around the same time of that screenshot [in April 2023] in my gallery, and indeed, the forum didn't change layout or the likes, layout shown on the profile page during April should also shows what we see right now: all text aligned between each rows.

[...]

What we have to clarify is that there is no evidence that the original owner of this account is selling that account. In fact, I am sure that the @Markdoy6 Telegram user is not the original owner, but a scammer who offers this account to naive people.
What if someone like him offered my account for sale, or yours holydarkness?

[...]

I guess there were no easy way to prove the ownership, even if Google+ come and answer here, it'll be a classic he-said-she-said.

I can think of two ways to prove or debunk the allegation, but it'll be quite... inconvenient. One is proving the connection by wallet transaction and see if the scammers wallet of which OP send the fund to is connected to Google+. The other is to debunk it [and it'll be very annoying, and I can understand if Google+ refuses to do so] I guess Google+ can ask for a trusted member to verify the dis-connection between his account and this mess by sending them a PM containing a screenshot of his profile from his page.

The screenshot bounds to show his email address and the member who got trusted with this task can match if the email written on his profile matched with the one being offered. I'll say again that it'll be very inconvenient as Google+ will reveal his real email address, if we suppose the screenshot above isn't his and the email address truly registered to him was not as above, so I can understand if he doesn't want to go with this method. Might worth to mention that it is not a sure fire, especially if the email was changed few weeks ago past seclog's data [is there a way to get a log way back for months?].
legendary
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October 12, 2023, 12:35:12 PM
#17
Though... I am quite sure the account being offered is this one.

..

Aside from the perfect match of date of registration down to the minute,
1. We can see the ghost of a "G" under the censored username
2. He made 717 forum-counted posts since he made the screenshot on 16 April, 2023 [36 pages of 20 posts each, minus three posts made before the screenshot], which matched his current post count.
3. His merit count matched the profile [549 up to April, given his 550th merit happened on 09 June]

You are right, most likely this is the account that was offered to the OP. Some time ago I also researched a similar matter and came across the same evidence. There was a similar accusation here, after which I tried to contact the seller under a neutral nickname. He sent me this same screenshot, but he never managed to prove ownership of the account. Without sufficient evidence, I did not want to start the accusation process.
That was in March-April '23 if I remember correctly connected to @Alex2012 on Telegram. It is possible that I have screenshots of part of that discussion somewhere, I changed my computer in the meantime, so I would have to look for it.

What we have to clarify is that there is no evidence that the original owner of this account is selling that account. In fact, I am sure that the @Markdoy6 Telegram user is not the original owner, but a scammer who offers this account to naive people.
What if someone like him offered my account for sale, or yours holydarkness?

Here I want to invite nutildah and Little Mouse to withdraw their feedback because they have no obvious proof. Especially since the OP (@brace the mace) started a revenge hunt on this user asking Stake managers to remove them from their campaign.

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