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Quote from: khaled0111 on March 21, 2021, 12:40:12 PM

The number of successful trades doesn't mean anything. They could be fake trades the scammer did with his friends/accomplices. Reviews can be faked the same way.
In fact, Binance p2p platform act as an escrow between you and the buyer so you don't have to trust each other. Just don't release the coins untill you receive your payment, as simple as that.

I don't rely also in history of trade when it comes in dealing transactions as it can be manipulated by just simply asking a friend to have a deal. It's good to use Binance p2p for a much safer transaction provided that amount will only be released with your confirmation that its really in your account. Though hassle might come after when they track something suspicious to the account you dealt with so always be careful to whom we deal with when it come is crypto.

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Quote from: ScamViruS on March 22, 2021, 01:21:33 PM

Everyone wants to take advantage of the opportunity, but you have to see how promising that opportunity is. People come to the crypto market to take advantage of some good opportunities to get something good back. any kind of scam.

Yes you may be right but OP almost became an opportunity to be taken advantaged of by scammers. The idea of a scam is to appeal to your greed. When you look at most scams critically, you will discover that the storyline wasn't that intelligent and difficult to see through but because of the greed of the victims they ignore all red flags and end up losing their money

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So, the trick is basically based on you to have released coins based on trust. That wasn't greed, that was out right stupidity on the side of the seller. A mean, why should you confer such trust on one you do not know and have never met! The success of your activities in the crypto space is basically on how private you keep your details and how you don't trust anyone.
These exchanges go as far as making the release payment or acknowledgement of payment a 2 step process to ensure that your sure to have received and not to have clicked by error means. So, its just some users being too selfless on there part.

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Everyone wants to take advantage of the opportunity, but you have to see how promising that opportunity is. People come to the crypto market to take advantage of some good opportunities to get something good back. Not everyone is greedy for this, if you get a good opportunity you can definitely use it to get good results. But you have to be smart enough and careful before making any kind of transaction. Because a lot of scammers will try to seduce you by showing you various tempting offers so that you fall into their trap. So you have to understand in advance which is the best offer and which is the offer made for the purpose of scam. If you are aware of scams in advance, you will be able to take advantage of many good opportunities without falling prey to any kind of scam.

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on March 22, 2021, 11:41:25 AM

Scammers are always finding ways on how they'll be able to outwit their preys. So for us not to be able to become of of their victims, it is indeed a necessity to feed ourself with knowledge and wrap with security. Scammers always tend to take advantage on their prey's greediness. Be diciplined enough so we could avoid them.

Everyone has greed, but it depends on how well they control it. Scammers do take advantage of one's greed as well as unwillingness to profit by committing fraud using many methods. There will always be new ways and there will always be new methods, we also have to develop and don't get left behind.

As I said above, we have to be one step ahead of the scammer, it will save us from all kinds of traps.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on March 21, 2021, 12:16:50 PM

Some people try to avoid it and some people ignore it too, unaware of the scammer trap.

The characteristics of a scammer always provide an unnatural and different advantage in general. Looks very easy but gets a lot of results. I learned from the experience that I had, that doing analysis on a project is very important, so that I know the background and type of the project. Always be aware of new methods of scammers, we must also think 1 step ahead of scammers.

Scammers are always finding ways on how they'll be able to outwit their preys. So for us not to be able to become of of their victims, it is indeed a necessity to feed ourself with knowledge and wrap with security. Scammers always tend to take advantage on their prey's greediness. Be diciplined enough so we could avoid them.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on March 21, 2021, 12:16:50 PM

That's where the trend is happening, for sure the scamers will stand up to trap us all, with currently many new coins appearing and that is ammunition for scamers to create gaps where they can be victims with that greed, I think it's not just you there are still many victims. and fraud that often occurs every day, indeed here we have to raise awareness where when there is something suspicious it should be avoided especially with unreasonable benefits.

Some people try to avoid it and some people ignore it too, unaware of the scammer trap.

The characteristics of a scammer always provide an unnatural and different advantage in general. Looks very easy but gets a lot of results. I learned from the experience that I had, that doing analysis on a project is very important, so that I know the background and type of the project. Always be aware of new methods of scammers, we must also think 1 step ahead of scammers.

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It reminds me of a scam that had happened with me, I don't exactly remember the exact amount, the person was offering Bitcoins through localbitcoins at really very cheap price but I was an idiot back then, can't really blame myself either, I was immature and a kid, so the person was selling bitcoin through "offline" as in face to face and in localbitcoins (idk the recent rules) if you purchase face to face, the escrow system is optional and that person sent me a screenshot (fake one) that escrow is on and I can pay, and silly me, I paid and he blocked me instantly. Later, I came to know about it and found on Google he was a big scammer and has done it with many people. He was later arrested as well I guess, and that time bitcoin was like really low in price so my around $50 worth of coins would have been so much now Grin

lessons really learnt in hard way and really as you said, greed is lethal and can lead to even death if not controlled in time.

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Quote from: Bravehash on March 21, 2021, 01:24:37 AM

who dares pay you 300$ for coins that worth 100$??? Like seriously I don't blame these scammers but the greedy sellers who want to make 2x gain without any work just like that

Don't hesitate to check buyers feedback, some are well rated as they have no dubious attempts in mind

Also do not release coins unless you receive deposit in your bank accounts and also find fair buyers that buys at normal rate, nothing is for free in this world, if something is too good to be true it's 99% certain that it is a scam.

I don't see the logic of paying $300 for coins that worth $100, it's either the seller is drunk or made a huge mistake, if he made a huge mistake then it's a costly mistake, but be still be very careful if you are trading to someone who has this offer then show honesty and confirm if he really wants to trade, and check his feedback, there are people who trap people because of their greed, and if you are not analyzing properly you are likely to fall.

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Quote from: hugeblack on March 21, 2021, 02:22:09 AM

Scam methods are developing rapidly, and a person needs to be informed of all news daily and not to send money only when you are 100% certainty that you are safe. Otherwise, trade with popular platforms that will not scam you because they will lose their reputation.

Scam methods will not stop at Binance but many altcoins are not safe and you need to wait for a long time, such as 10 or 20 confirmations, to be safe.

Binance P2P is not a way to buy/sell Bitcoin as all things can be done with Bitcoin mainnet instead of using that platform.
One of the aspects that make people prefer the Binance is the low fees. saving a few dollars in tx fees may lead you to lose your money.

This is just good old method of taking advantage of one's greed. There is nothing new about it. Plus, I don't think this is binance's fault either, when you do p2p you are on your own.

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Such scam should be easy to spot on. Nobody is that gullible...even though the crypto space is new and might be challenging to grab on quickly, there's no excuse for losing your money to such scams.
I'd you're selling bitcoin through p2p its best you use Escrow to make the transaction. That way both parties are safe from such difficulties for the both parties. Needless to say for newbies the crypto space can feel like "Alice in wonderland" but it will all come together with time. Ask questions if you are confused or not sure what to do. I believe that's what this section was created for. You can't be a mbee of this forum and still fall victim to scammers. No need to be ashamed if you have been scammed. It has happened to the best of us.

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Greed is not the main problem here, after all, there's nothing wrong with wanting to make money. So many people come to crypto to make money fast, and with good timing it is indeed possible - people who bought Bitcoin half a year ago are not in x6 profit, while those outside of crypto say that Bitcoin is a bubble and a scam.

The key here is to think logically, carefully examine if this is a legitimate opportunity to make money, if the profit is real, or if it's just a scam. In your example with P2P trading it's clear that there's no good reason for buying coins at x3 market value, so it must be a scam. But Bitcoin is growing at unprecedent rate because of real demand.

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on March 21, 2021, 04:28:57 AM

You need to choose trade partner who has high total orders, and high total orders in last 30 days.

The number of successful trades doesn't mean anything. They could be fake trades the scammer did with his friends/accomplices. Reviews can be faked the same way.
In fact, Binance p2p platform act as an escrow between you and the buyer so you don't have to trust each other. Just don't release the coins untill you receive your payment, as simple as that.

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Quote from: taufik123 on March 21, 2021, 11:58:22 AM

those who are greedy will always be victims because they are always lacking in what has been obtained. But lack of vigilance will also be the reason why it is so easy for scammers to trap. Currently Hype Defi in BSC is high and many new coins are listed in BSC. and of course there are also many traps set by scammers. Some people I know have also been trapped because of the liquidity of the coin being withdrawn or the term "RugPull". I even experienced it once.
Getting a little profit is better than expecting a big but uncertain and ultimately losing out on the scammer trap.

That's where the trend is happening, for sure the scamers will stand up to trap us all, with currently many new coins appearing and that is ammunition for scamers to create gaps where they can be victims with that greed, I think it's not just you there are still many victims. and fraud that often occurs every day, indeed here we have to raise awareness where when there is something suspicious it should be avoided especially with unreasonable benefits.

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those who are greedy will always be victims because they are always lacking in what has been obtained. But lack of vigilance will also be the reason why it is so easy for scammers to trap. Currently Hype Defi in BSC is high and many new coins are listed in BSC. and of course there are also many traps set by scammers. Some people I know have also been trapped because of the liquidity of the coin being withdrawn or the term "RugPull". I even experienced it once.
Getting a little profit is better than expecting a big but uncertain and ultimately losing out on the scammer trap.

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I've only heard this elsewhere and this verifies that it's really happening. Always verify when you're transacting through Binance's P2P or any other P2P that probably has the same procedure.
There really is an actual premium price for some crypto but that only happens in some countries of exception like what I've read about in some countries in Africa.

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Quote from: CryptoATM on March 21, 2021, 10:37:01 AM

Quote from: Lucius on March 21, 2021, 09:09:26 AM

Quote from: CrossroadBTC on March 21, 2021, 08:21:33 AM

I totally disagree, there are some scam tricks that works on people that don't actually know what they are doing but this very one that OP is talking about is pointing to the greedy ones, it's 100% clear that sellers want to sell coins that are sold everywhere for 1$ at 2$ or more, this is complete greediness

OP definitely refers to greedy ones, but the title of this thread says "Scammers always hunt for the greedy ones", which is definitely not true as I tried to explain in my previous post. Of course there are people who don’t know what they’re doing, and at the same time are greedy and impatient, but what the OP describes is only a small percentage of the total crypto scam.

If someone just searched this forum for those who bought some cheap BTC thinking they were buying a real BTC, or those who bought a coin address instead of the real thing or watch-only wallet, you would see that there are many more who have no idea what they are doing than the greedy ones.

You have a point, scammers hunts for anybody either greedy or not, you don't have to be greedy before scammers can scam you, losing private keys to scammers or phishing isn't greediness but scammers are well known for using attractive offers to lure those who are greedy too, you got it right

I disagree with the phishing point, there are two types of phishing that I know of

1. The phishing that promise good offers and only want you to do a click and boom 💥 you are already in trouble

2. The phishing that hijacks either wallet address or web page you trying to access and refer you to the danger zone

The point here is the first still talks about been greediness

The fastest way to lose money in crypto space is been greedy with yourself, moreover everyone wants 2x gains isn't it?

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Quote from: Lucius on March 21, 2021, 09:09:26 AM

Quote from: CrossroadBTC on March 21, 2021, 08:21:33 AM

I totally disagree, there are some scam tricks that works on people that don't actually know what they are doing but this very one that OP is talking about is pointing to the greedy ones, it's 100% clear that sellers want to sell coins that are sold everywhere for 1$ at 2$ or more, this is complete greediness

OP definitely refers to greedy ones, but the title of this thread says "Scammers always hunt for the greedy ones", which is definitely not true as I tried to explain in my previous post. Of course there are people who don’t know what they’re doing, and at the same time are greedy and impatient, but what the OP describes is only a small percentage of the total crypto scam.

If someone just searched this forum for those who bought some cheap BTC thinking they were buying a real BTC, or those who bought a coin address instead of the real thing or watch-only wallet, you would see that there are many more who have no idea what they are doing than the greedy ones.

You have a point, scammers hunts for anybody either greedy or not, you don't have to be greedy before scammers can scam you, losing private keys to scammers or phishing isn't greediness but scammers are well known for using attractive offers to lure those who are greedy too, you got it right

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This is complete rules breaking, the rules on binance was never to release coins unless you get deposited first, even if the high price buyers are available I can still give a try to see if they can complete the payment first before releasing the coins, if not they you aren't at any loss.....It's complete stupidity if you release your coins first and wait for payment later

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Quote from: Bravehash on March 21, 2021, 01:24:37 AM

who dares pay you 300$ for coins that worth 100$??? Like seriously I don't blame these scammers but the greedy sellers who want to make 2x gain without any work just like that

Don't hesitate to check buyers feedback, some are well rated as they have no dubious attempts in mind

Also do not release coins unless you receive deposit in your bank accounts and also find fair buyers that buys at normal rate, nothing is for free in this world, if something is too good to be true it's 99% certain that it is a scam.

Yeah, it is pretty obvious that there is something shady on that kind of transaction because who would let anyone be in disadvantages themselves in this kind of trade, I mean there's no way a person will pay you more than the amount they can receive right? This is just a basic instinct of traders after all. They always say don't be greedy in your trade cause' this will drive you onto your own loss and that is 100% true. Reading or scrutinizing user's feedback and past transaction will help you to give an idea of whether the users are trustworthy or not. Besides, I believe there are some rules in doing this kind of trade like payment must be accredited to your account first before releasing the coins so we might check it out first before engaging in any activities to prevent this problem.

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