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legendary
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No, they are not. They are pretty stupid.


I wouldn't say they are stupid. This strategy still works, which means some have a demand for it.
Besides, who takes the bait? The one who thinks that he is the most cunning, and seeing the wallet data, wants to take someone else’s. Even if not everyone is like that, some just want to help, ask yourself, are you the only one who knows how to help these days? It's simple. Greedy people fall for scammers. Everyone else just passes by, realizing that nothing on the Internet is free. Those thoughts about a quick freebie very often lead to people receiving their losses instead of profits.

You quoted phrase is taken out of context. Smiley
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Scammers are smart enough today that many users don't understand their techniques. Scammers usually make big offers, many are tempted to swallow those offers. People who haven't actually been victims of scammers don't realize how far things can go, scammers will rob you of everything you can't imagine could happen. The biggest thing is that we give opportunity to scammers, we often step into the trap knowingly. Personally, I would say that if we always refuse the tempting offers, then the scammers will not get any help in getting their hands on anything personal.

Scammers are always developing new strategies so if you think you know all their strategies they are some were cooking things up, I wonder if they can diversify their strategies into something more meaningful than use it for scam. Their relevant place that their idea will help but no they will rather use it to get free money and put people in pain. This guys don’t know the amount of pain they make people go through losing their funds, in some movies like beekeeper, what surprised me in that movie was the fact that most of the this so called tech companies are into scams mining peoples data and scamming them this shows that scammers can go to any extent just to scam someone. And some offers are too good to be real but because of the money they will want to try out instead of making proper research. No matter the advice you give to people they will still fall victim, because the moment a random person messages you and starting talk about investment and profits then you should know that it is pure scam nothing more.
legendary
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This is an old tricks and I thought people have grown past this level.
I was like, "Do people still fall for such old trick" too when I read the OP. The first time I saw something like that on telegram was around 2020/2021 (I can't be sure anymore). I was almost thrown into a panic for the person's sake, believing they were genuinely seeking help and had inadvertently exposed their passphrase. It was not until another user explained it to the rest of us and called the scammer out that I felt relaxed. Again, those who fall for such a scam are greedy too. Only greed will make someone want to reap where they didn't sow. It's the same way people try to claim NFTs they find in their wallets but they didn't do anything to earn them. They think it's that easy to throw money (coins) around. It's certainly not. Scammers know this and that's why they cash in on the greed of people to hit them.
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Scammers are smart enough today that many users don't understand their techniques. Scammers usually make big offers, many are tempted to swallow those offers. People who haven't actually been victims of scammers don't realize how far things can go, scammers will rob you of everything you can't imagine could happen. The biggest thing is that we give opportunity to scammers, we often step into the trap knowingly. Personally, I would say that if we always refuse the tempting offers, then the scammers will not get any help in getting their hands on anything personal.
hero member
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Scammers are the smart ones?

No, they are not. They are pretty stupid.
They are not stupid but wicked,  stupid are someone who lack intelligence or common sense while wicked use their wit to do evil things.
If you call a scammer stupid then you have underestimated them because you would not be expecting much from someone who you have called stupid because of their actions, but some of this scammers these days are very intelligent that they can even still fool someone who knows about their existence. Better not to assume their stupidity and pay attention to details because some scams can be really sophisticated.
Underestimate scammers at your own risk, I wouldn't even call them stupid because it takes intelligence and experience to scheme up ways to manipulate other people's intelligence inorder to scam them. To be able to outsmart scammers means that you have to be informed about their fraudulent activities, otherwise they can penetrate their victims as if they need favor from them, and the naive people will fall for their tricks.

I think that the two keys to avoid being scammed is not to be too quick to involve in any online activities that you're not familiar with, don't even try to help, support or engage in business dealings with people online, you need to research and verify first from experienced people or trusted sites for information. Second key factor to being scammed is greed, most victims that falls prey to scams is due to greed, scammers will entice their victims with too good to be true offers.

They would not exist for that long if they know that its easy for them to eliminate. That's why these criminals still exist since they know that there's still a lot of newbies are keep entering the scene since crypto market is gaining a lot of popularity and they take advantage on that situation. We see a lot of them became so innovative and whatever trend release they came up with appealing idea just to get a potential victims of their scheme. Although we know a lot of scams method use but for newbies it will be so hard for them to figure out if they are participating on legit one or just a total scam since they don't have idea on everything about they are newly engaging. Verifying each platform is important if they just do a research first before they invest for sure they might see this forum and can ask about many things that can help them to learn also for their potential investments.
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Scammers are the smart ones?

No, they are not. They are pretty stupid.
They are not stupid but wicked,  stupid are someone who lack intelligence or common sense while wicked use their wit to do evil things.
If you call a scammer stupid then you have underestimated them because you would not be expecting much from someone who you have called stupid because of their actions, but some of this scammers these days are very intelligent that they can even still fool someone who knows about their existence. Better not to assume their stupidity and pay attention to details because some scams can be really sophisticated.
Underestimate scammers at your own risk, I wouldn't even call them stupid because it takes intelligence and experience to scheme up ways to manipulate other people's intelligence inorder to scam them. To be able to outsmart scammers means that you have to be informed about their fraudulent activities, otherwise they can penetrate their victims as if they need favor from them, and the naive people will fall for their tricks.

I think that the two keys to avoid being scammed is not to be too quick to involve in any online activities that you're not familiar with, don't even try to help, support or engage in business dealings with people online, you need to research and verify first from experienced people or trusted sites for information. Second key factor to being scammed is greed, most victims that falls prey to scams is due to greed, scammers will entice their victims with too good to be true offers.
hero member
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This is an old tricks and I thought people have grown past this level. The operate this scam by draining the TRX of whoever attempt to transfer the USDT as fees.

I will continue to advice people to apply wisdom all the time. Anyone that have a way of earning USDT should be able to know how to send it, and it takes only someone greedy to fall for this scan.
Whether it's an old technique or not, there will always be new people in the crypto world, which means a new set of people who are ignorant of it and are vulnerable. Without falling victim, they will not know of it's existence and when they do, they are likely to fall victim. It's good that the OP shared this with us here, at the very least new members who are unfamiliar with this tactic will be able to learn from it, and there's nothing wrong with reminding us to avoid such strategies.

This is a very dubious and smart strategy, we ought to be careful online especially on telegram, alot of people are going extra miles, thinking of anything possible just to scam others. I will say not everything you see online is true, be careful even when you feel you just want to help someone.
Scammers always think extra miles to convince people in order to victimize them that’s why it’s very important to never believe anything online at first sight, always verify the authenticity of certain claims before believing it and anything that will require you to send out money from your wallet should not be trusted. The crypto world is full of scam so newbies need to educate themselves more about various strategies scammers utilize to steal money from people.
hero member
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They are not stupid but wicked,  stupid are someone who lack intelligence or common sense while wicked use their wit to do evil things.
Stupid or wicked, it's only chosen word to say about scammers and I don't argue with you about words because it won't end with an agreement.

It could be an old trick, but a lot of users are still falling for it, and I so much believe there are Others in this forum who don’t even know about the trick.
You don't need to know everything in all areas, know everything about scam methods, to avoid scammers.

What you need, most important thing you need, to avoid scam, are very simple: carefulness and don't be greed. Scammers can use simple or complicated scam methods to find victims but they aim at careless and greed people. If you are not people like this, no scammer can touch you and your money.

I agree but it's funny how they always get people. That means the people are even more stupid? I see a lot of lame scams and I wonder how people fall for it. I just can't explain it.
Because human instinct is always there and the same, and new victims are who repeat same mistakes like past victims. They are either careless or greed or both.

If you call a scammer stupid then you have underestimated them because you would not be expecting much from someone who you have called stupid because of their actions, but some of this scammers these days are very intelligent that they can even still fool someone who knows about their existence. Better not to assume their stupidity and pay attention to details because some scams can be really sophisticated.
I don't underestimate scammers because they can code, can do things I can not do, but to say they are smart, I don't say it.

They can code, make website, smart contract, or hire some staffs to do this for them. They only need idea and pass it to staffs for coding later steps. We don't know what a founder of a scam project actually does. Maybe the founder only has idea, other things completed by his staffs or collaborators.
sr. member
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This is not a new method my dear. Anyone who chooses to fall for this type of scam is greedy and is a scammer as well. And if a scammer gets scammed then it fine by me. This is because it's only a scammer who would want to help an unknown person to withdraw their funds from there wallet. Wen it is very simple for anyone to withdraw funds, only a YouTube video tutorial can guide the person. Yet people feel they can scam such person. This is why being greedy is not good, anyone who falls victim should bear the consequences.
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Scammers are the smart ones?

No, they are not. They are pretty stupid.
They are not stupid but wicked,  stupid are someone who lack intelligence or common sense while wicked use their wit to do evil things.
If you call a scammer stupid then you have underestimated them because you would not be expecting much from someone who you have called stupid because of their actions, but some of this scammers these days are very intelligent that they can even still fool someone who knows about their existence. Better not to assume their stupidity and pay attention to details because some scams can be really sophisticated.
hero member
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But still I'm glad to see this doesn't have so much transactions like the last one I saw posted on bitcointalk or did the address had a peaked year or something?

If memory serves right, that scammer has accumulated at least six digits in dollars from victims. Crazy how there was a new transaction every couple of seconds. I was trying to find the thread as it may something that some folks may find interesting but I couldn't. If someone remembers, please post lol.
sr. member
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The rate of scam that has been happening in telegram seems to be increasing day by day and i was surprised with this strange strategy adopted by scammers so i decided to share it to prevent more people from falling victim. I recently stumbled across a post on a telegram group where a user claiming to be having difficulty withdrawing his funds of $270 USDT from his wallet to Binance and seeking for other people’s help to withdraw the funds.

Not only in telegram but the rate at which scam is advancing in general is alarming and this makes it more necessary for us to be current and updated in order to be a step ahead of these scammers. Your experience in Telegram is outdated format that scammers use to outsmart probably fellow scammers in the past but few people might still be falling for this trick. I encountered it in Telegram too and have many similar messages in my Twitter inbox, it's not only happening in telegram but also in other social media platforms.

It's like a robbery scene where armed robbers are being robbed by another armed robber because the larger percentage of people importing the wallet intended to steal the funds from the wallet not knowing that the wallet has a bot configured to move out the TRX you deposit before even attempting to make any further action. The crypto industry is very wide to accommodate both genuine people and others with double standards, it is good not to attempt to interact with coins you don't work for.


I will continue to advice people to apply wisdom all the time. Anyone that have a way of earning USDT should be able to know how to send it, and it takes only someone greedy to fall for this scan.

I agree with you that for someone to earn USDT should be able to withdraw it but I beg to differ on the last part of your statement. While I also believe that plenty of people willing to steal that funds for one reason or the other, I do believe there are still honest and innocent people out there whom might be willing to help sincerely and end up being a victim. We can not conclude that they are greedy too simply because they offer to help a scammer ignorantly.

I will also advise to keep distance from any funds you don't work for to protect yourself from things like that and if you choose to help, teach the person how to do it by themselves and never agree to do it from your end.
hero member
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I recently stumbled across a post on a telegram group where a user claiming to be having difficulty withdrawing his funds of $270 USDT from his wallet to Binance and seeking for other people’s help to withdraw the funds.
This scam type is very old one and you are new member in the forum, this market so welcome to your discovery on this scam type.

They used same scam type in the past, like I can not withdraw my bitcoin from an exchange because of many reasons, and I need your help to withdraw it. If you can hep me to withdraw it successfully, I will give you 50% or any good bonus.

Scammers are the smart ones?

No, they are not. They are pretty stupid.
It could be an old trick, but a lot of users are still falling for it, and I so much believe there are Others in this forum who don’t even know about the trick. I particularly don’t know about the trick till of recent, so it not right for you to just right the post off like you did. You could have just enlighten me more about the trick than saying I’m a new member in the forum, you were also new here years ago too.

Being new or old in the forum doesn’t have anything to do with your knowledge about bitcoin. There are people with versatile knowledge about bitcoin and are not in this forum so chill and speak reasonably.

The only set of people I see falling for this type of old trick are the greedy type - a decent human should know that there is no free money online and the fact that someone exposes something that is meant to be kept hidden should already give them hint that there is a catch somewhere.

The first time I encountered this was in a Facebook group - just like yours, the user claimed to be a newbie and that he got the usdt(in trons network) as a gift and he doesn’t know what to do with it - he shared the mnemonics for all to see and then I noticed that all money that gets sent into the wallet(to be used as gas fee)  are immediately swept off to a different wallet.
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The rate of scam that has been happening in telegram seems to be increasing day by day and i was surprised with this strange strategy adopted by scammers so i decided to share it to prevent more people from falling victim. I recently stumbled across a post on a telegram group where a user claiming to be having difficulty withdrawing his funds of $270 USDT from his wallet to Binance and seeking for other people’s help to withdraw the funds. See image below



He posted his wallet seed phrase and private key and also a screenshot of the balance of the wallet just to lure poeple because he knows alot of people will try to steal his funds from him.

I was suspecting it to be all fake but then i thought he mistakenly shared his seed phrase and private key due to ignorance but to my surprise he actually came up with this idea to steal from people who try to steal from him. I was scared that he’d lose all his money and was expecting him to complain on the chat that his money was stolen but an hour passed no one complained so i decided to import the wallet and saw that his wallet was still intact that was when it rang a bell and when i checked the transaction history i saw lot’s of TRX being received  from people trying to steal from him or rather people trying to help him send out his funds and later the received TRX are being send out by the scammer to a different address and all sent out TRX were all sent to the same address. The TRX was supposed to be used as gas fee to send out the USDT.

See transaction history below





This is a very dubious and smart strategy, we ought to be careful online especially on telegram, alot of people are going extra miles, thinking of anything possible just to scam others. I will say not everything you see online is true, be careful even when you feel you just want to help someone.

No matter how much smart are the scammers but if we are smart enough to keep control on our greed then no one in this world can scams us. We are servants of ourselves and we are not brave enough to realise our mistake and to make ourselves accountable .

We just need to make sure that we don't follow the path that our greed lead us to that's the only thing we have to do then scammers will get disappointed from us.
sr. member
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I don't feel sorry for them actually. This is a very old trick and I'm surprised people still fall for it. They fall for it because of their greed. They saw an opportunity to steal someone else's money without knowing that they were the prey and not the predators. If they had no intentions of taking someone else's money they wouldn't have fallen for it.

No, they are not. They are pretty stupid.

I agree but it's funny how they always get people. That means the people are even more stupid? I see a lot of lame scams and I wonder how people fall for it. I just can't explain it.

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Actually its old scammer trick by sharing their seed phrase and telling us about difficult withdrawing their assets, many people looking how interested with how much fund in scammer wallet by sending fees for withdrawing all assets in that wallet. I saw this post in my community group on Facebook social media, but most of our community understood well with scammer trick after sending fees automatically send to scammer wallet without few second.
The scammer have set up with bot of automatic sending fund after some one deposit fees in that wallet, be careful with old trick and don't make you blame after seeing with how much fund in the scammer wallet.
For the most experienced trader or investor in cryptocurrency understood with this trick and not interested for depositing fees because scammer said difficult withdrawing their assets.

As you said, old trick but to many it seems seems new as long as it's a strange strategy. However, the main point should be that we shouldn't underestimate what scammers are capable of doing and we should always have any related connections with wallets suspicious also as the internet links when we don't trust the source.
Greed has also made most of the scammers victims to be vulnerable to that scammer while others were out of compassionate to help.
I feel sorry for all. Let's keep vigilant fellas.
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The rate of scam that has been happening in telegram seems to be increasing day by day and i was surprised with this strange strategy adopted by scammers so i decided to share it to prevent more people from falling victim. I recently stumbled across a post on a telegram group where a user claiming to be having difficulty withdrawing his funds of $270 USDT from his wallet to Binance and seeking for other people’s help to withdraw the funds. See image below



He posted his wallet seed phrase and private key and also a screenshot of the balance of the wallet just to lure poeple because he knows alot of people will try to steal his funds from him.

I was suspecting it to be all fake but then i thought he mistakenly shared his seed phrase and private key due to ignorance but to my surprise he actually came up with this idea to steal from people who try to steal from him. I was scared that he’d lose all his money and was expecting him to complain on the chat that his money was stolen but an hour passed no one complained so i decided to import the wallet and saw that his wallet was still intact that was when it rang a bell and when i checked the transaction history i saw lot’s of TRX being received  from people trying to steal from him or rather people trying to help him send out his funds and later the received TRX are being send out by the scammer to a different address and all sent out TRX were all sent to the same address. The TRX was supposed to be used as gas fee to send out the USDT.

See transaction history below





This is a very dubious and smart strategy, we ought to be careful online especially on telegram, alot of people are going extra miles, thinking of anything possible just to scam others. I will say not everything you see online is true, be careful even when you feel you just want to help someone.


First and foremost I want to say a very big thanks for your information, that's so thoughtful of you, because not everyone who has encounter such thing like this. However I think this information is very helpful more especially to those people who joined telegram recently so with the help of this information I think they will be very careful this time, though this strategy might look very old to some people, but it might look very new to those people who have not come encounter such tricks before. that is why we need to be extremely careful with telegram both internet as well because scammers are gradually dominating everywhere in the  internet.
legendary
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This is an old tricks and I thought people have grown past this level.
You know the saying, "there's a sucker born every minute". Its no surprise that these tactic work for years since there is a constant influx of new people in crypto that never even saw something like that before so no wonder that they keep falling for it.

The only "good" thing about being scammed this way is that lesson you pay is usually very small compared to some other scamming tactics.
hero member
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Scammers are not the smart ones, they are instead the wicked ones, because they wanted to engaged themselves into what will make others cry and pay for, but we should be the smarter ones in this by not falling for any of their tricks used against us, we should also not be the one to get them attracted to use by giving them access to use in attacking us, that is why privacy and security is very important in cryptocurrency for us to know, follow and practice.
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They are making their own ways to work, it's just that they are really witty at it but at first glance, you would immediately could tell that that is not a Binance account and the image is not from a wallet but a different exchange. It's easily distinguishable IMO. I understand that those who are not keen much to details can be victimized by him.

I have never known this type of method though.
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