Topic: Scammers are the smart ones, be careful. (Read 594 times)

I hardly respond to the PMs I receive from Telegram because I don’t chat on Telegram, and other social medias. I only join groups to get the information’s that I need, so whenever I receive any message, I already know it’s from a scammer, so I don’t waste my precious time responding to them. When some people contact you, they will be seeking help from you, you will never know they have the mindset to scam you, only when you already know about their technique or when you start trying to help them before you will know they are trying to scam you.

it is people that wants them to be involved in scam I've come to extend that I will not be a victims of scam based on you understanding the process the steps scammers do take  to deceive people, some now before you convinced to the extent of scamming me, you have to know that I'm looking for something and am desperate to achieve am looking for, can someone you don't know Dm you of business you don't know about and you compromised without looking at the effects of it, so I basically know that all over social media fraudsters or scammers has taken over and you need to be careful to things you do.

You are absolutely right, we should the ones who are smart and not them, we should make them pay for their wicked and selfish desire against them, not against us.

Yes, they might play some tricks on us, so that we can fall a victim and make them happy but we should outsmart them, when they think they are smart. For example, I was checking something on Facebook and then a message pop up and I was told to invest a certain amount and I will have my interest and my capital in the next 24 hours and they even show me the screenshots of those who have been benefitting from them, just to make me believe they are real, which I know they are scammers but I never doubt them, I picked interest and make them believe that I was on their side, so I start doing what they told me to do reaching when I was told to deposit some certain amount of money and I did but it was fake, they called me to tell me that they haven't received and I told them but I did and then they knew I was faking them and it pained them that I didn't fall for them instead they fall for me.

So that is how it should be and not the other way round, we should always be ready to outsmart them in anyway they try to scam us.

Not only Telegram, but all other social media platforms such as Email, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and web wallet are targeted by scammers to attack us. Those of us involved in cryptocurrency must use every platform very carefully. If we can control our greed, we can avoid most scams.

Telegram is one of the social media where scammers use this days. They come out with different methods everyday just to scam. We just need to be more smart and careful in this space just to avoiding falling into all this various scam.

It is good that you didn't respond to the chat, every unknown messages are treat to bitcoiners that's why we have to be careful in what ever things we are doing on the interne. Internet is a big environment that accommodates both good and bad behaviours (depending on the rules and regulations that guilds the platforms). The important thing a bitcoin should do is to be careful the kind of links they click and were they connect their wallets also.
I think this links I will be dropping can help a crypto newbie stay out of scam.
This- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guidelines-how-to-spot-a-scam-ico-report-effectively-5004397
This- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-prevent-scam-some-useful-tools-for-find-scam-fake-ico-team-4586576

I received a PM on Telegram a few days ago. One asked me for help and shared his wallet seed phrase with me. I suspected it might be some new method of scam. So I did not reply to his PM. After reading this post today I understood what is the real method. We must always be careful about Telegram, Email messages.

You're right paying attention to news online is also a way to avoid scammers, however the other way to avoid scammers is also by keeping our details very  private, and also we should be very careful with all this  malicious site that requires connecting our wallet. we really need to be careful with those site because scammers can easily gain access to our wallet through those sites, this  are few Ways in which we can avoid being scammed.

Scammers are obviously smarter because they make you dance to their tune despite what one believes in or holds dear as principles.
One way to avoid scams is to always pay attention to news online and happenings around the cryptocurrency space because whether we like to agree or not, they exist and will reap off the unsuspecting investors that want to make quick profit or diversify immediately to sort pressing needs.

Many are still going to fall with kind of scheme, the speculators think that they are on a jackpot with this if they saw some balance on it. But little did they know, the scammer is just waiting for them to send some gas fees on it. I think that they're using smart contract with it and upon receiving little amount for the fees, it's automatically going to be sent to the address of the scammer. Well, if you're greedy and gullible, you'd fall for this scam. Sadly, many are and they won't stop and will never learn a lesson because they think that they have only lost small amount.

Whether the trick of scamming is old or new, it is important to be aware of it because it is not a simple problem that, once explained and all people will understand how to avoid scammers. Day by day Cryptocurrency is becoming prominent and new people are giving commitment, and if they don't know about scammers's trap and cleverness then they can easily become part of scammer's scams. So it is very important to discuss all scam proposals whether they are old or new. Don't point out that the OP discussed the old topic, rather apply that he suggested people to avoid dirty work like scams.


No one is stupid, everyone knows whether to lose or profit. So the problem is not that he is stupid, the problem is that the poor guy doesn't know how to scam and how to avoid it. That is, no one has even informed these people that as much as the crypto industry is secure, it is also unsecure, which means that there are also scammers who return by making people victims of fraud.

Even when we think we know it all, scammers are not relenting. They are busy inventing new ways of scamming people of their coins. Just like OP rightly said, scammers are smart. They know quite a lot of tricks they can easily use to attack their victims, we wouldn't know about all these scam tricks if we do not discuss them like this. Sometimes, we do not need to wait till these scam discussions are brought to us, it is high time we pick interest in reading, watching and listening to news related to scam so we can know how to protect ourselves and those around us better.

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Most people who fall victim to most scams are usually led by greed to their own doom. Indeed there is really a lot to earn from investing online, but do a thorough research first to ascertain the authenticity of whatever you are doing.

We should stay away from all these people as much as possible. Today there is no shortage of scammers, they steal information from us by showing the greed of different money. Our full devices can be hacked. We need to be more aware. Do not be suspicious of such people, remember that no one will give you money just like that. So avoid any kind of financial posts on X platform or any other social media platform, where it is said that you will be paid. The farther away you are from them, the safer you will be.

Not everyone in the cryptocurrency space is aware of all the tricks that scammers do use. There are many people who are new to the cryptocurrency industry and are unaware of these old tricks. By discussing these scams now, we can help these newcomers understand the risks involved. Scammers are very smart and can come up with any trick after studying someone. Sometimes, scammers use old tricks to scam people, so it is important to stay informed about these old tricks. This way, newcomers can be aware of them.We cannot learn everything at once, but by discussing about these scams, we can gradually become more knowledgeable and protect ourselves from falling victim to them.

Fraudsters will not succeed unless they are extremely clever and constantly change their strategy. At such times they use methods to deceive so that naturally their things seem true but if we are not extra careful we can easily fall into their trap of deception. Cheaters are very smart and they will discuss with you first about the topic they are going to cheat with and by discussing it with you they will make a place in your mind and you will trust them easily. When the fraudster sees that you trust him, he will start his real activities and all your saved money can be lost in a moment due to your little mistake. So it is very important that we are careful not to give our hard earned money to fraudsters.

Sometimes, an old trick still works to deceive people, no matters if they are beginners or veteran. They will not thinks that way is a trick that can makes them lose their money. When we panic, we can not thinks clear about that and just follow what other people suggest.

We don't thinks that suggestion will deceive us because we see that way is make sense but there is something that we are not checks with details. That makes us gets deceive by an old trick without we realizes about that. Maybe we don't knows how they can tricks us but that is happens to us.

It is why we must be careful and make sure that will not deceive us. We can search for other information to find out that will not makes us lose money. What we see in internet will not always right so we must make sure before we decides.

Thank you so much for the information, actually I'm still new here and also in this crypto space, I don't have full knowledge about all this things that has been happening in the internet more especially in this telegram platform, moreover this strategies is still very new to me but just mere looking is very obvious that the person is a scammer. is very hard for someone to fall a victim to this type of scam, is only those people who are very greedy that can fall victim to this type of scam. However I want to say a very big thanks to op once more, this information is really helpful mostly for those who have not come encounter such tricks before just like me but now that you made it well known to people more especially newbies like us so that whenever time we come encounter such tricks we can know how to face them.

This is not something new as this I encountered this year's ago and I am wondering how people are still being fooled with such tactics because I remember sharing such incident during 2018 and this scam method is still prevalent in 2024 which means people never learn that no one pays you anything for free and we need to understand that there is no freebies here you need to earn it and if something is coming easy it means there is some sort of scam associated with it.

What do you think is the reason behind them getting so much success with what they do? You will often hear people getting scammed, either through phishing links or any other way, which proves that scammers are never out of business and they always find prey when they go hunting.

The reason is that newbies, at least most of them, are internet illiterates and they barely know and understand much about it, but they have heard from somewhere that they can earn money from the internet, and they got it somehow, either by watching some tutorial or getting help from someone around them who set their wallet up and everything and taught them the basic things such as how they can send and receive cryptocurrencies, how they can connect their wallets with websites, etc.

Now, scammers know this thing very well, and they are always on the lookout for such users because they know they are the most vulnerable creatures available on the internet and that they won't even need to try hard in order to trap them, all they need to do is give them some offer that will make them think that they are going to get rich very soon, and then take their money and run away.

A high success rate in scams is due to a lack of knowledge among new users joining the industry or the internet in general.

Bro, their is nothing like old tricks when you actually don't know about it, because most crypto enthusiastic in this space are flawed, they actually don't know how to be safe from this scammers, it's mostly we that has the privilege of knowing about this kind of scamming strategy base on the fact that we have heard or gotten knowledge of this scamming strategy in this forum, most people are just hearing it for the very first time as you even mentioned it, so my brother, what you actually don't know, is always more difficult to combat.

My only advice  to crypto enthusiastic is that they should know that scammers are getting surphisticated everyday , so the best way to fight it is to also get surphisticated with knowledge so as to know how to navigate your way safely in the crypto space without get caught of guard.

Indeed, they will target people who are not smart and innocent. Therefore, we need to be smart as well like them and act cautiously to give no hint that we are weak and innocent. The moment we show them our greediness, and innocence and are able to communicate with them, that will give them an idea of how they attacked us.

So we have to be careful whom we talk with on social media, most of them are scammers, especially when they talk about money and investments. We have to keep our minds open and think that there is no easy money in the world nor think about quick rich investment, a word from scammers.

Everyone becomes careful more particular for investors that have been scammed. Talking about the smart ones, scammers are present and will always come up with strategies that will provide aides for themselves. While the investors are concerned about their projects but they don't think proper straight due to profits. Scammers are not giving up this fight because most of them are toxic and they see scamming as easy route to generate enormous profits for themselves.

Yes you are right I totally agree that scammers are always try with new ways to scam people. OP's case is good example of new strategy that we hadn't seen before. Thanks to him/her who shared this information we can now be aware of it. Scammer pretends to be clueless and asks for help which is sneaky trick. Some people tried to take advantage of the situation but they got caught and lost their money too. This is reminder to always be careful and skeptical when someone we don't know asks for help or offers us a deal that sounds too good to be true. Mostly which I have seen they target the new person or you can say newbie got a catch in their trap. So we should always be careful.

The world of anonymity has its drama, modes like this have often occurred and many have been trapped because of greed or perhaps a higher sense of empathy but exploited by the fraudster. Some even seem frustrated because they run out of gas fees and are willing to share 50% of the available balance, it doesn't make sense . It turns out that the wallet has a script to trick it as if it is safe.

Lack of reading interest / people new to crypto think this can't happen and intend to help. Hopefully it will be a valuable lesson in the future for that person and everyone. It is better to be grateful for your own crypto, and if it has been identified as such, it is better not to respond. Because it's a waste of time. If you really need help, there are better ways to help others not with our crypto assets, of course he spent his own gas fee.

I am seeing a lot of comments that this type of scam method used by the scammer is not new, I haven’t come across this before but base on how vast one has been on this space, you will feel some negative energy the first time you see this and try to help the victim. You have to always think smart and always be one step ahead of the possible scammers. Thank you for sharing this OP, I am now aware of  prior to now and I think more people won’t have know this too especially newbies.


With this method, the scammer is already one step ahead of the other scammer that wants to take advantage of the scammer that claims to be naive and needs help. I just can’t imagine how funny it will be for a scammer to scam another scammer, but when it does happen, the scammed scammer will be +1 smarterbtge next time he comes across someone that needs help.

Scammers will always create new strategies to deceive other people, such as this fraud case may be a new strategy because I have not gotten any reports of this case in our community, so I thank the OP for sharing this important information even though the victim did not lose much money but the scammer collected funds from many other victims.

But this scam is very unique, the scammer pretends to be stupid on the pretext of asking for help to withdraw funds, but some victims also have a bad plan to take all the balance in the wallet, but they have fallen into a trap to take the Trx balance that has been transferred.

Actually you did absolutely well by sharing this information, I think this will serve as a big note of warning to those people you're still new in this crypto space, and also in telegram, a lot of things is really happening in the internet this time. the knowledge of scammers keep increasing day by day, that is how they are also coming up with different strategies so we need to be extremely careful this time so that we won't fall a victim to them.

Thanks Op for bringing back the discussion again even if it has been discussed, because it will enlighten the newbies to be watchful and careful when dealing with their coins and also serve as a reminder to old members on the forum.Scammers are always coming up with new updates,that even old bitcoiners are also falling for it.The only way we can avoid being vulnerable to scam is to stop participating in activities that sounds or look too good to be scam.The activities that looks too good to be scam are more likely to be scam.So let's be guided and wise in the crypto space.

There are many different crypto scam we need to be aware about because scammers are now taking new strategies.
If ought to ask questions before we make some certain decisions if we are still new in the crypto space.
Scammer are using new ways and means to keep getting money from their victims.
 We need to be wise and take every opportunity to ensure that we don't fall for their scamming attempts to steal from us and take away our hard earned funds.

One of the problem with most people is always wanting to involve themselves in everything. Just like the op said, if you check those people who wanted to help most of them has another thing in mind that is to say that most of them were actually trying to take advantage not knowing that it was a trap though some may truly want to help but will I call it ignorant or what I mean why will someone fall for that, that was so fake to be true however, I believe they have learnt a lesson of their life and no one will tell them to back off next time they see stuffs like that online and I think if there's no example people won't understand or learn. I hope most people learn from this.

Yes, that's correct. Most of those who fall into scammers' schemes, whether old or sophisticated tactics, are people desperate to make money in any form and to rush to experiment without any experience, research, or seeking advice from someone with long-standing experience in this field.

When we find a stranger who sends his seed phrase and private key of his wallet or accounts on exchange platforms and the like and who attaches a screenshot of the stuck money and asks for help from the public in exchange for a percentage of these funds in return, the best solution is to ignore what he sent and refrain from opening the wallet because it will likely be infected with a honeypot. The account will belong to a scam exchange platform. As a result, any funds deposited by the person tempted by the money will fall into their traps easily. Therefore, it is best not to trust strangers to stay safe.

I spotted it myself before i even read about possible ways to get scammed on telegram. During my newbie days, I was introduced to a kind of pay-to-get-paid telegram channel for traders. Everything sounded a little bit convincing for me cause I barely had an experience on copy trading.
I logged on my telegram one evening on seeing several notification Links about how reliable the platform is; reading through, I discovered that most of those updates were made through the same IP addy and almost from the same device. I haven't followed any link since then, up until now.
This is trap! The moment you try to verify the seedphrase, your funds is gone!

Actually I think it depends reason is because most people can do it due to lack of ignorance, though the method might look very old to you but still new to some people, we are different people with different thought and also with different mindset. there are so many things you can experience in the internet, that most people don't know. Of course sometimes it happens as a result of being greedy, maybe thier intention might be maybe after withdrawing the funds probably they will run away with the money, without knowing that the person that he's planning to run away with his Money also have bad intention towards him.

Scammers’s strategies are not always so difficult to fish out, but newbies are always falling for them because they don’t really have experience. No matter how old a trick is, we are still going to see people who will be falling for it, so it’s better we keep on enlightening ourselves about all these strategies that scammers are using, whether they're old or new. Some scam strategies might be old, but we should know that people just joining the crypto space won’t know about them, but if we keep on talking about them, new people might end up seeing them.

Scams happen everywhere and this is just part of the battles we face for been trying to use a new tech and people that fall victims the most are the ignorant ones who invest into coins without investing into knowledge and security. The funny thing about crypto scams is that people that indulge in it are just regular people like us but they happen to be knowledgeable than others, they look beyond what others do or some complexity we don't often look at and they hide behind that to tie advantage of people, that's what scammers are doing here in crypto.

Furthermore, some people are blind by greed just as you mentioned, they love to make money where they didnt put anything, even conservation of energy stated that you can't create energy without not using energy but scam victims want to create money where they don't put any money or sometimes they want to create more than what they put. How can someone be expecting 300% interest in 3 days with your small change, that's ridiculous.

Scammers are very wise, they love using Telegram among all the remaining social media because they catch victims always and they imply several strategies on telegram which help them in achieving their goals.

This strategy used by this scammer is an old strategy, they have used it several time, now they are trying to bring it back so that they can get newbies that are yet to know about it. Some of them do even clone exchange and ask you to login for them to take some percentage of you help them withdraw their funds; all these are strategies to scam you. Be wise and stay away from any message from an unknown user on telegram.

The reason why people easily for victim to scam is because of greed and the mindset of making money so fast in the Internet.  It is only greed that will make someone to believe free offers from the Internet and if people can learn to change their mindset concerning getting quick money it will be difficult for them to fall victim of scammers. Scammers tries to bring up new techniques in which can be used to scam people in getting money from them but if people can understand not to have interest of getting money from strangers online it will really help to fall victim to scammers.

Scammers understands that the only way to get people is to offer free money people would want to gain without making any effort and this is how many people wants to make money that's is why they fall victim to scam.

I have seen a lot of scam but this is quite different, I know scammers are very smart now I can even see more evidence to prove that scammers are even more smart than those who claim to be smart in their ways.

Just as profirii said, if you think it the other way the scammer was smart enough to make the scam look like they are the real scammers for trying to hijack his funds. it's a great lesson for them anyways.. one don't have to be so greedy to the extent of wanting to exploit someone else.

Telegram is the favorite place for scammers, you will see all sorts of scamming attempts happening there and they also find a lot of success in scamming people in Telegram because they know there are a lot of newbies joining Telegram to participate in airdrops and giveaways or joining the groups of their favorite projects to stay up to date, and they lure them with such offers by going into their DMs and most newbies who are new in this industry fall victim to such things pretty easily.

Even though this is an old trick, you can still often see people posting such things on different social media platforms, especially Facebook where you can often see such things being posted in cryptocurrency-related groups or the comments of related posts.

Whether it's an old trick or not people would still fall for it and thanks for sharing because I believe there are persons here who are getting to know about this kind of scam for the first time. Also, I don't know if I would say the victims got what they deserve because it's only persons with bad intentions that would try to move the USDT to a different wallet.

I wouldn't say they are stupid. This strategy still works, which means some have a demand for it.
Besides, who takes the bait? The one who thinks that he is the most cunning, and seeing the wallet data, wants to take someone else’s. Even if not everyone is like that, some just want to help, ask yourself, are you the only one who knows how to help these days? It's simple. Greedy people fall for scammers. Everyone else just passes by, realizing that nothing on the Internet is free. Those thoughts about a quick freebie very often lead to people receiving their losses instead of profits.

You quoted phrase is taken out of context.

Scammers are always developing new strategies so if you think you know all their strategies they are some were cooking things up, I wonder if they can diversify their strategies into something more meaningful than use it for scam. Their relevant place that their idea will help but no they will rather use it to get free money and put people in pain. This guys don’t know the amount of pain they make people go through losing their funds, in some movies like beekeeper, what surprised me in that movie was the fact that most of the this so called tech companies are into scams mining peoples data and scamming them this shows that scammers can go to any extent just to scam someone. And some offers are too good to be real but because of the money they will want to try out instead of making proper research. No matter the advice you give to people they will still fall victim, because the moment a random person messages you and starting talk about investment and profits then you should know that it is pure scam nothing more.

I was like, "Do people still fall for such old trick" too when I read the OP. The first time I saw something like that on telegram was around 2020/2021 (I can't be sure anymore). I was almost thrown into a panic for the person's sake, believing they were genuinely seeking help and had inadvertently exposed their passphrase. It was not until another user explained it to the rest of us and called the scammer out that I felt relaxed. Again, those who fall for such a scam are greedy too. Only greed will make someone want to reap where they didn't sow. It's the same way people try to claim NFTs they find in their wallets but they didn't do anything to earn them. They think it's that easy to throw money (coins) around. It's certainly not. Scammers know this and that's why they cash in on the greed of people to hit them.

Scammers are smart enough today that many users don't understand their techniques. Scammers usually make big offers, many are tempted to swallow those offers. People who haven't actually been victims of scammers don't realize how far things can go, scammers will rob you of everything you can't imagine could happen. The biggest thing is that we give opportunity to scammers, we often step into the trap knowingly. Personally, I would say that if we always refuse the tempting offers, then the scammers will not get any help in getting their hands on anything personal.

They would not exist for that long if they know that its easy for them to eliminate. That's why these criminals still exist since they know that there's still a lot of newbies are keep entering the scene since crypto market is gaining a lot of popularity and they take advantage on that situation. We see a lot of them became so innovative and whatever trend release they came up with appealing idea just to get a potential victims of their scheme. Although we know a lot of scams method use but for newbies it will be so hard for them to figure out if they are participating on legit one or just a total scam since they don't have idea on everything about they are newly engaging. Verifying each platform is important if they just do a research first before they invest for sure they might see this forum and can ask about many things that can help them to learn also for their potential investments.

Underestimate scammers at your own risk, I wouldn't even call them stupid because it takes intelligence and experience to scheme up ways to manipulate other people's intelligence inorder to scam them. To be able to outsmart scammers means that you have to be informed about their fraudulent activities, otherwise they can penetrate their victims as if they need favor from them, and the naive people will fall for their tricks.

I think that the two keys to avoid being scammed is not to be too quick to involve in any online activities that you're not familiar with, don't even try to help, support or engage in business dealings with people online, you need to research and verify first from experienced people or trusted sites for information. Second key factor to being scammed is greed, most victims that falls prey to scams is due to greed, scammers will entice their victims with too good to be true offers.

Whether it's an old technique or not, there will always be new people in the crypto world, which means a new set of people who are ignorant of it and are vulnerable. Without falling victim, they will not know of it's existence and when they do, they are likely to fall victim. It's good that the OP shared this with us here, at the very least new members who are unfamiliar with this tactic will be able to learn from it, and there's nothing wrong with reminding us to avoid such strategies.

Scammers always think extra miles to convince people in order to victimize them that’s why it’s very important to never believe anything online at first sight, always verify the authenticity of certain claims before believing it and anything that will require you to send out money from your wallet should not be trusted. The crypto world is full of scam so newbies need to educate themselves more about various strategies scammers utilize to steal money from people.

Stupid or wicked, it's only chosen word to say about scammers and I don't argue with you about words because it won't end with an agreement.

You don't need to know everything in all areas, know everything about scam methods, to avoid scammers.

What you need, most important thing you need, to avoid scam, are very simple: carefulness and don't be greed. Scammers can use simple or complicated scam methods to find victims but they aim at careless and greed people. If you are not people like this, no scammer can touch you and your money.

Because human instinct is always there and the same, and new victims are who repeat same mistakes like past victims. They are either careless or greed or both.

I don't underestimate scammers because they can code, can do things I can not do, but to say they are smart, I don't say it.

They can code, make website, smart contract, or hire some staffs to do this for them. They only need idea and pass it to staffs for coding later steps. We don't know what a founder of a scam project actually does. Maybe the founder only has idea, other things completed by his staffs or collaborators.

This is not a new method my dear. Anyone who chooses to fall for this type of scam is greedy and is a scammer as well. And if a scammer gets scammed then it fine by me. This is because it's only a scammer who would want to help an unknown person to withdraw their funds from there wallet. Wen it is very simple for anyone to withdraw funds, only a YouTube video tutorial can guide the person. Yet people feel they can scam such person. This is why being greedy is not good, anyone who falls victim should bear the consequences.

If you call a scammer stupid then you have underestimated them because you would not be expecting much from someone who you have called stupid because of their actions, but some of this scammers these days are very intelligent that they can even still fool someone who knows about their existence. Better not to assume their stupidity and pay attention to details because some scams can be really sophisticated.

But still I'm glad to see this doesn't have so much transactions like the last one I saw posted on bitcointalk or did the address had a peaked year or something?

If memory serves right, that scammer has accumulated at least six digits in dollars from victims. Crazy how there was a new transaction every couple of seconds. I was trying to find the thread as it may something that some folks may find interesting but I couldn't. If someone remembers, please post lol.

Not only in telegram but the rate at which scam is advancing in general is alarming and this makes it more necessary for us to be current and updated in order to be a step ahead of these scammers. Your experience in Telegram is outdated format that scammers use to outsmart probably fellow scammers in the past but few people might still be falling for this trick. I encountered it in Telegram too and have many similar messages in my Twitter inbox, it's not only happening in telegram but also in other social media platforms.

It's like a robbery scene where armed robbers are being robbed by another armed robber because the larger percentage of people importing the wallet intended to steal the funds from the wallet not knowing that the wallet has a bot configured to move out the TRX you deposit before even attempting to make any further action. The crypto industry is very wide to accommodate both genuine people and others with double standards, it is good not to attempt to interact with coins you don't work for.


I agree with you that for someone to earn USDT should be able to withdraw it but I beg to differ on the last part of your statement. While I also believe that plenty of people willing to steal that funds for one reason or the other, I do believe there are still honest and innocent people out there whom might be willing to help sincerely and end up being a victim. We can not conclude that they are greedy too simply because they offer to help a scammer ignorantly.

I will also advise to keep distance from any funds you don't work for to protect yourself from things like that and if you choose to help, teach the person how to do it by themselves and never agree to do it from your end.

The only set of people I see falling for this type of old trick are the greedy type - a decent human should know that there is no free money online and the fact that someone exposes something that is meant to be kept hidden should already give them hint that there is a catch somewhere.

The first time I encountered this was in a Facebook group - just like yours, the user claimed to be a newbie and that he got the usdt(in trons network) as a gift and he doesn’t know what to do with it - he shared the mnemonics for all to see and then I noticed that all money that gets sent into the wallet(to be used as gas fee)  are immediately swept off to a different wallet.

No matter how much smart are the scammers but if we are smart enough to keep control on our greed then no one in this world can scams us. We are servants of ourselves and we are not brave enough to realise our mistake and to make ourselves accountable .

We just need to make sure that we don't follow the path that our greed lead us to that's the only thing we have to do then scammers will get disappointed from us.

I don't feel sorry for them actually. This is a very old trick and I'm surprised people still fall for it. They fall for it because of their greed. They saw an opportunity to steal someone else's money without knowing that they were the prey and not the predators. If they had no intentions of taking someone else's money they wouldn't have fallen for it.


I agree but it's funny how they always get people. That means the people are even more stupid? I see a lot of lame scams and I wonder how people fall for it. I just can't explain it.

As you said, old trick but to many it seems seems new as long as it's a strange strategy. However, the main point should be that we shouldn't underestimate what scammers are capable of doing and we should always have any related connections with wallets suspicious also as the internet links when we don't trust the source.
Greed has also made most of the scammers victims to be vulnerable to that scammer while others were out of compassionate to help.
I feel sorry for all. Let's keep vigilant fellas.

First and foremost I want to say a very big thanks for your information, that's so thoughtful of you, because not everyone who has encounter such thing like this. However I think this information is very helpful more especially to those people who joined telegram recently so with the help of this information I think they will be very careful this time, though this strategy might look very old to some people, but it might look very new to those people who have not come encounter such tricks before. that is why we need to be extremely careful with telegram both internet as well because scammers are gradually dominating everywhere in the  internet.

You know the saying, "there's a sucker born every minute". Its no surprise that these tactic work for years since there is a constant influx of new people in crypto that never even saw something like that before so no wonder that they keep falling for it.

The only "good" thing about being scammed this way is that lesson you pay is usually very small compared to some other scamming tactics.

Scammers are not the smart ones, they are instead the wicked ones, because they wanted to engaged themselves into what will make others cry and pay for, but we should be the smarter ones in this by not falling for any of their tricks used against us, we should also not be the one to get them attracted to use by giving them access to use in attacking us, that is why privacy and security is very important in cryptocurrency for us to know, follow and practice.

They are making their own ways to work, it's just that they are really witty at it but at first glance, you would immediately could tell that that is not a Binance account and the image is not from a wallet but a different exchange. It's easily distinguishable IMO. I understand that those who are not keen much to details can be victimized by him.

I have never known this type of method though.

Actually its old scammer trick by sharing their seed phrase and telling us about difficult withdrawing their assets, many people looking how interested with how much fund in scammer wallet by sending fees for withdrawing all assets in that wallet. I saw this post in my community group on Facebook social media, but most of our community understood well with scammer trick after sending fees automatically send to scammer wallet without few second.
The scammer have set up with bot of automatic sending fund after some one deposit fees in that wallet, be careful with old trick and don't make you blame after seeing with how much fund in the scammer wallet.
For the most experienced trader or investor in cryptocurrency understood with this trick and not interested for depositing fees because scammer said difficult withdrawing their assets.

Thanks op for this reminder because I believe there may be ones whom may have not heard nor seen this kind of method in term of scamming. Don't let greed push you into what you don't know, just be careful in learning and using the right platform.

It could be an old trick, but a lot of users are still falling for it, and I so much believe there are Others in this forum who don’t even know about the trick. I particularly don’t know about the trick till of recent, so it not right for you to just right the post off like you did. You could have just enlighten me more about the trick than saying I’m a new member in the forum, you were also new here years ago too.

Being new or old in the forum doesn’t have anything to do with your knowledge about bitcoin. There are people with versatile knowledge about bitcoin and are not in this forum so chill and speak reasonably.

Yeah, I have read the same case like this in the forum several months ago so this kind of strategy to scam people isn't new at all.  But, it is still a good thing to remind people to be warry about the old and new tactics of scammers so that we can be reminded about the scamming tactics of these wicked people and at the same time inform newcomers.

I believe only people who have ill-intention of stealing those funds will fall victim to that scam so I think that serves them right to get scammed trying to steal other people's property though I say that this kind of activity is still wrong.


They are not stupid but wicked,  stupid are someone who lack intelligence or common sense while wicked use their wit to do evil things.

 

Not a new technique, but there are still investors who are still falling to this way of scamming other people.
I guess sometimes, being ignorant is good because I used to ignore everything that I feel is a scam. I mean if I'm the one who saw this personally on Telegram, I will just ignore it or delete it.

Like what other said, I would share my thanks to the OP for sharing this. For sure, there will be 1 or 2 people out there who will see this and learn from it. Scammers are becoming more and more smarter as years pass by. They are adopting to what's happening hence, they are doing everything just to be successful in what they're doing. As for the investors, we should be smarter than them. How? Learning more. Gaining more knowledge overtime would help us not get scammed. Learning how to secure our funds would help us. Learning what are the ways these scammers are using to scam people will be a helpful one because we will know how to avoid them.

Sometimes, trusting your gut feeling works, and that works to me all the time. It might not work for some, but being knowledgeable is always better.

The (not so) new part is that blockchain, crypto, gas... are involved in the scam, but the fact that the scammer tries to take advantage of the bad intentions of the scammed ones is very old. It is very reasonable because, on one hand, the scammer can feel less guilty because he scammed people with bad intentions, and on the other, the victims will think it twice before disclosing the details of what happened. Although being reasonable doesn't make it ethical, and even less, legal.

Thank you OP for sharing. Maybe some readers will think twice before falling into a trap like that.

This scam type is very old one and you are new member in the forum, this market so welcome to your discovery on this scam type.

They used same scam type in the past, like I can not withdraw my bitcoin from an exchange because of many reasons, and I need your help to withdraw it. If you can hep me to withdraw it successfully, I will give you 50% or any good bonus.

Scammers are the smart ones?

No, they are not. They are pretty stupid.

This is an old tricks and I thought people have grown past this level. The operate this scam by draining the TRX of whoever attempt to transfer the USDT as fees. This is similar to the recent iron airdrop that they scam each of the people that attempt to swap the token about $12 in Matic. This thread explains details about this fake airdrop.

I will continue to advice people to apply wisdom all the time. Anyone that have a way of earning USDT should be able to know how to send it, and it takes only someone greedy to fall for this scan.

The rate of scam that has been happening in telegram seems to be increasing day by day and i was surprised with this strange strategy adopted by scammers so i decided to share it to prevent more people from falling victim. I recently stumbled across a post on a telegram group where a user claiming to be having difficulty withdrawing his funds of $270 USDT from his wallet to Binance and seeking for other people’s help to withdraw the funds. See image below



He posted his wallet seed phrase and private key and also a screenshot of the balance of the wallet just to lure poeple because he knows alot of people will try to steal his funds from him.

I was suspecting it to be all fake but then i thought he mistakenly shared his seed phrase and private key due to ignorance but to my surprise he actually came up with this idea to steal from people who try to steal from him. I was scared that he’d lose all his money and was expecting him to complain on the chat that his money was stolen but an hour passed no one complained so i decided to import the wallet and saw that his wallet was still intact that was when it rang a bell and when i checked the transaction history i saw lot’s of TRX being received  from people trying to steal from him or rather people trying to help him send out his funds and later the received TRX are being send out by the scammer to a different address and all sent out TRX were all sent to the same address. The TRX was supposed to be used as gas fee to send out the USDT.

See transaction history below





This is a very dubious and smart strategy, we ought to be careful online especially on telegram, alot of people are going extra miles, thinking of anything possible just to scam others. I will say not everything you see online is true, be careful even when you feel you just want to help someone.