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Quote from: suzanne5223 on August 13, 2017, 06:27:19 PM

Yes, you're right because when an investment site promise to give you a profit which seems good to be true then it scam and I could remember when I invest into a site which I was told I'll get 15% of my invest every week. However, most cloud mining site are ponzi site.

clound mining is ponzi .. 100% ponzi, because who sell hash power for mining coins?
if is profitable no one sell hashpower

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Of course escrow is the best method to protect against scammers. No doubt. But we cant avoid scammers. They are all around. They dissapear and appear every day. You got to be very careful against them
With investments websites is just a lucky thing most of the times. You can never know what is it going to happend with the website if it is not offical legally.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on August 13, 2017, 01:45:34 AM

We can not avoid scammers cuase they are all around. For example investing money . We says it good and legit cause it paying and it reflect on our wallet when whe try to withdraw our money. But when we deposit a huge amount it will gone and show pending wihtdrawal not reflect on our wallet . So we cannot avoid it. So better check our do some research to avoid scammers.

the problem with scam in investing is trust. when you see a magic investment (like clound mining) in most case is a scam
i repeat and quote myself
when the offer is really realle good, many times is fake/scam
no one gift money

Yes, you're right because when an investment site promise to give you a profit which seems good to be true then it scam and I could remember when I invest into a site which I was told I'll get 15% of my invest every week. However, most cloud mining site are ponzi site.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on August 13, 2017, 01:45:34 AM

We can not avoid scammers cuase they are all around. For example investing money . We says it good and legit cause it paying and it reflect on our wallet when whe try to withdraw our money. But when we deposit a huge amount it will gone and show pending wihtdrawal not reflect on our wallet . So we cannot avoid it. So better check our do some research to avoid scammers.

the problem with scam in investing is trust. when you see a magic investment (like clound mining) in most case is a scam
i repeat and quote myself
when the offer is really realle good, many times is fake/scam
no one gift money

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We can not avoid scammers cuase they are all around. For example investing money . We says it good and legit cause it paying and it reflect on our wallet when whe try to withdraw our money. But when we deposit a huge amount it will gone and show pending wihtdrawal not reflect on our wallet . So we cannot avoid it. So better check our do some research to avoid scammers.

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How can we assure that this is not a scam? I prefer this site to hire escrows because this is trusted and we can aasure that the escrowed amount will not be scammed by escrow we hire because we can simply give them a bad reviews which will give him a bad reputation. So, no way in hell that they will scam users here unless you hire a not trusted escrow here.

Anyway, you can just give us some sample of transactions you successfully done. It will help you to promote your service.

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Quote from: virasog on August 12, 2017, 04:02:48 PM

I guess the best solution to avoid scammers are stay away on it, use your mind and think many times before making moves, also use an escrow or middleman so that you manage things to the one whom you transact with, there lists of escrows here which is reputable, also always bear into your mind that if it is too good to be true then it is not.

Sure, this is true but the problem with that is that scammers can be anyone -- even people you have dealt with perfectly before. I don't think it's valid advice to tell someone to simply stay away from scammers. Using escrows and middlemen are agreeably one of the best options that people have; however, your bit on staying away from scammers is almost like saying don't deal with anyone at all if you want to protect your money.

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I guess the best solution to avoid scammers are stay away on it, use your mind and think many times before making moves, also use an escrow or middleman so that you manage things to the one whom you transact with, there lists of escrows here which is reputable, also always bear into your mind that if it is too good to be true then it is not.

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yes, i agree.. bitrated is the best :-)
i'm an escrow on io bitrated.com/babo but the other guys in this website are good

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There are escrow websites out there that give you the same sense of security and allow people with trust to pocket a small percentage. Websites like bitrated work just fine. There were some others before but they seem to have disappeared. Do your research.

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Quote from: player514 on August 03, 2017, 09:57:21 PM

Quote from: Lone Shark on August 03, 2017, 09:47:43 PM

The very purpose of this post is not really to inform people, but to advertise OP's referral link as it can be seen in the main post of OP. That is the only reason, he's not here to compare standard bct escrow with bitify. I don't even think he has even used an escrow here on bitcointalk.

Agreed. However, as a note, if this was a normal post, there's no need to go and find an escrow online through other sites. Bitcointalk has forum escrows that are well established. It might take a little time to get in contact with them, but it sure is worth it, as you are dealing with a true human being on the other side of the screen. Just deal with caution and treat every deal with respect and caution.

Yes, I quite agree with concerning this forum having some trusted escrows service provider but I don't agree when you said it might take some time to get in contact with them while they can be easily in the service section area.

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Quote from: LightZ on August 03, 2017, 07:26:10 PM

I think that using a escrow right here in bitcointalk is safe enough.
Escrow was always the solution, people just ignore the warnings and try to deal directly with the seller and get themselves scammed.
Also ignore the red trust from scammers and choose to deal with them.
Then come here and say that bitcointalk is full of scammers.

how we can use escrow here?

That's pretty easy. Let the buyer or seller know you're using an escrow for the goods or services and make sure you and the seller or buyer reach an agree concerning the payment/deal. After that look for an escrow provider with a green trust account in the service area or thru this link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0 and keep the escrow provide post how the whole thing is. The escrow provide keep the money and send it to the seller of the goods after you confirm the package delivery.
NOTE : most escrow provider collect fee.

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If you look closely in Services section then you wil find a guy named Monbux who is offering escrow service. You can ask anything from him if you have got some doubts over escrow thing.

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Quote from: hugeblack on August 03, 2017, 06:35:19 PM

Hi all
One of the most bad things in bitcoinstalk is scammers

I try to use services to get best escrow
Now i want to share my best ecrow experince

It is bitify

It is fast , only need small feeds ,have spport team will refund you if they find scammer , safe and more

You can sign in from here and try it
https://bitify.com/user/cheapestvisa/?referral=59836a1b5b097

Please try it OR share your best ecrow method
Thanks

Hope to get nice day

Personally, in this crypto world I have trust issues with having website holding funds for me even localbitcoin is not where I would trust, I would rather find individuals who moral values are the much more valuable to then than peanuts to act as escrow whether here or anywhere else rather than keeping it on a site and not knowing the man behind curtain calling the shots on my money.

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yes but it’s easy to buy hero account

Hero accounts with decent post quality cost way more than 10-20$.
This is why you have staked addresses as well, and demand a signed message from the staked address if you think that the account could be bought.
Simple as that.

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Quote from: harizen on August 04, 2017, 08:38:07 AM

But what if that old trusted person already stopped doing the service? If we have to used common sense, we will not get scammed even by a new seller.

Well in that case you only deal on small amounts and such. For example these are things to look at while doing a deal:

User has a good post quality, and is a long time member on the forum.
Has trade history and no negative trust

For example even if some Hero Member had a good post quality, even with a 0 trades i would take my chance even with reversible goods if we are talking about amounts like 10-20$.
Only a dumb ass would dump a great account for such a sum, but some people are stupid enough to actually deal with reversible goods with brand new accounts that have a horrible post quality, and no one would even pay 1 satoshi for them.
Sadly some people do not have common sense.

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Quote from: LightZ on August 03, 2017, 07:26:10 PM

I think that using a escrow right here in bitcointalk is safe enough.
Escrow was always the solution, people just ignore the warnings and try to deal directly with the seller and get themselves scammed.
Also ignore the red trust from scammers and choose to deal with them.
Then come here and say that bitcointalk is full of scammers.

how we can use escrow here?

You can contact some person in DT e.g Lauda, Yahoo (as of now, they are the one I saw who is active in doing escrow). But there are cases that sometimes those people in DT are busy elsewhere, in here you can hired a service based on communities preferences. What I mean here is, you will make a thread that will state what will be the deal and wait for response about who is interested. Is this prone to scam? Chances are low because it will be a public trial and community can see it publicly.

Quote from: onnz423 on August 04, 2017, 08:07:57 AM

.. there will be no problem if you buy from trusted person that has been doing it for a long time. As simple as that.

But what if that old trusted person already stopped doing the service? If we have to used common sense, we will not get scammed even by a new seller.

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This looks good but do they escrow for IRL items? Most of the items listed are digital goods and I didn't login yet, maybe put more information in the thread so others don't have to open the site to check what bitify is and how it works.
for people interested to know about it. https://bitify.com/bitify-escrow-service/
Edit : There are some real life items on sale as well.

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real problem with codes and accounts

sometimes after get password and deal done seller change it

That is the buyers fault for buying reversible goods from a person that does not have trust or is new to the forum. You'll survive out of such deals with common sense, there will be no problem if you buy from trusted person that has been doing it for a long time. As simple as that.

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Bitify might be a good escrow service but posting your referral links in the OP might get your post deleted by a moderator. You can use your signature to promote your bitify referral but not in your OP.

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Quote from: babo on August 04, 2017, 03:05:58 AM

best method is: use mind
second best method is use escrow, manual, automated, bitify, bitrated.. all legit escrows are ok

^this

It's not hard to think who will go first on the deal. I think the bitcointalk escrows are the best bet, because they know how the forum works and answer quickly.
Of course if a newbie sends you "plz send first to addy xxx i pay after u send coins sir" etc. You will with using your brain see that this is a scam (or the person thinks that you can request the item u bought without trust).

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