Scammers tracking website - asking for ideas

Alex_crypto

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Quote from: Superhitech on December 01, 2014, 07:59:54 PM

Hmmm. This would be neat, but easily abused. Who can edit it? Scammers could easily put false accusations against someone else. The trust system at bitcointalk is enough in my opinion.

I agree with here. I have seen as many false accusations as legit cases. Adding people to a list is sometimes warranted.

This guy to me is the biggest scammer in crypto https://twitter.com/CoyoteOfWallSt but others really like him. I have seen him scam a dozen people and stole from them.

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Quote from: mistercoin on December 06, 2014, 12:52:50 PM

Very easy to do. Assuming you are going to take the time to root out manually the scammers, all you would need to do is use wordpress or some other (maybe tikiwiki?) cms, and keep adding to it.

It would be easier to do it manually, IMO, and a human touch is always better then a situation where someone is falsely accused.

If you want webspace for this, let me know. I can help you out free of charge.

same here, and can surely spare some dev hours here and there for the good cause

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If you ARE going to manually root out scammers, I'd love to help out with this service if needed haha
I wanna help the community!

lihuajkl

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What I am concerned is that scammers usually have different identities (easy to register a name) and address, even you mark them as scammers under some specific names, they will change to another one to carry on doing the scams. I suggest some features like linking the name to his logging IP address. I know there are some public places where are used by trusted and untrusted ppl at the same time. But wouldn't it be better if we know the IP address used by some scammers ? At least we will be cautious when dealing with those ppl from those IP!

dogevisitor

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Quote from: twister on December 06, 2014, 07:37:46 AM

Although it's a good idea but it will take a lot of work, as others have already suggested you would have a hard time deciding who to trust, if someone accuses someone else of scamming, you need to have a way of getting to the bottom of the truth and prove before tagging them as scammers. If you have resources and you can do this, go ahead but make sure you have proofs before putting up names.

Thanks for sugestion. I will try to implement a voting system and every user or address added will have 0 rating.
So you could add your own user/address and get trusted or not.
Unfortunately I only have 1-2 hours free/day. Will ask some help here if anyone has html skills, for a simple website design. I have a simple website template...will post pictures soon

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Quote from: redsn0w on December 06, 2014, 08:03:35 AM

Quote from: whitewhidow on December 06, 2014, 08:01:31 AM

Quote from: twister on December 06, 2014, 07:37:46 AM

Although it's a good idea but it will take a lot of work, as others have already suggested you would have a hard time deciding who to trust, if someone accuses someone else of scamming, you need to have a way of getting to the bottom of the truth and prove before tagging them as scammers. If you have resources and you can do this, go ahead but make sure you have proofs before putting up names.

exactly. you would need a way of verifying that the erson providin feedback on a sepcific transaction, is in fact the peron owning the sending wallet, and the person receiving the money, to be te actul owner of the receiving wallet.
if you can verify this. then your good to go i guess no ? bu t theres no way of doing this. .

so how about taking it a step higher, you could create a platform to do just that (dont ak me how) an whil i kno most ppl use btc BECAUSE its anon, but im sure ther are any people that would benefit from a platform to vetify wallet owners, both owners and checkers would bnefit obviously

edit: you CAN do this !!

heres how, to verify a wallet owner. have them send 0.0000001 to a specific address. BOOM. "veriied"

its how pp verifies your bnking account aswell

im liking this idea !! someone better jump on ths before i do ...

Or simple signing a message , it is free and you can verify the ownership of that address. Why spend 0.0000001 BTC ?

I like the idea of having a small community, maybe 5-6 people, running a wiki with profiles of known, potential and other types of malicious people/services, to look out for, to outright not to business with or to be cautious of.

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Very easy to do. Assuming you are going to take the time to root out manually the scammers, all you would need to do is use wordpress or some other (maybe tikiwiki?) cms, and keep adding to it.

It would be easier to do it manually, IMO, and a human touch is always better then a situation where someone is falsely accused.

If you want webspace for this, let me know. I can help you out free of charge.

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Maybe an API where you can allow other websites to integrate your service there so it'll be easier and the scammer
tags will be more painful and severe

LOBSTER

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There have been lots of websites with the same cocept as yours. The problem is, that there are sometimes fake notifcations etc. or the website is anytime not available more...

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Quote from: whitewhidow on December 06, 2014, 08:01:31 AM

Quote from: twister on December 06, 2014, 07:37:46 AM

Although it's a good idea but it will take a lot of work, as others have already suggested you would have a hard time deciding who to trust, if someone accuses someone else of scamming, you need to have a way of getting to the bottom of the truth and prove before tagging them as scammers. If you have resources and you can do this, go ahead but make sure you have proofs before putting up names.

exactly. you would need a way of verifying that the erson providin feedback on a sepcific transaction, is in fact the peron owning the sending wallet, and the person receiving the money, to be te actul owner of the receiving wallet.
if you can verify this. then your good to go i guess no ? bu t theres no way of doing this. .

so how about taking it a step higher, you could create a platform to do just that (dont ak me how) an whil i kno most ppl use btc BECAUSE its anon, but im sure ther are any people that would benefit from a platform to vetify wallet owners, both owners and checkers would bnefit obviously

edit: you CAN do this !!

heres how, to verify a wallet owner. have them send 0.0000001 to a specific address. BOOM. "veriied"

its how pp verifies your bnking account aswell

im liking this idea !! someone better jump on ths before i do ...

Or simple signing a message , it is free and you can verify the ownership of that address. Why spend 0.0000001 BTC ?

whitewhidow

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Quote from: twister on December 06, 2014, 07:37:46 AM

Although it's a good idea but it will take a lot of work, as others have already suggested you would have a hard time deciding who to trust, if someone accuses someone else of scamming, you need to have a way of getting to the bottom of the truth and prove before tagging them as scammers. If you have resources and you can do this, go ahead but make sure you have proofs before putting up names.

exactly. you would need a way of verifying that the erson providin feedback on a sepcific transaction, is in fact the peron owning the sending wallet, and the person receiving the money, to be te actul owner of the receiving wallet.
if you can verify this. then your good to go i guess no ? bu t theres no way of doing this. .

so how about taking it a step higher, you could create a platform to do just that (dont ak me how) an whil i kno most ppl use btc BECAUSE its anon, but im sure there are many people that would benefit from a platform to vetify wallet owners, both owners and checkers would benefit obviously

edit: you CAN do this !!

heres how, to verify a wallet owner. have them send 0.0000001 to a specific address. BOOM. "veriied"

its how pp verifies your bnking account aswell

im liking this idea !! someone better jump on ths before i do ...

edit : srry for typos. typin on mobile

twister

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Although it's a good idea but it will take a lot of work, as others have already suggested you would have a hard time deciding who to trust, if someone accuses someone else of scamming, you need to have a way of getting to the bottom of the truth and prove before tagging them as scammers. If you have resources and you can do this, go ahead but make sure you have proofs before putting up names.

whitewhidow

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or how about. instead of identifying scammers, make something to identify trustworthy bitcoin adresses..

(sort of like the trust system here)

where you can only give someone "positive" trust. when a transaction actually occured from that adress to yours. amount of trust based on btc amount, again, like the system on this forum.

because indeed. how are you going to prevent false feedback ? only allow feedback upon transactions i guess ?

HeroCat

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I do not think that this idea is good. You as a private person in your private website can not say exactly about other person - he/she is or is not a scammer. Wink

Bitcoins101

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I usually just like to go directly to the source, rather than relying on some third-party tracker. Google makes that easy most of the time.

A cryptocurrency specific website with actual identities of people to watch out for has niche potential, though.

redsn0w

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#Free market

Quote from: dogevisitor on November 30, 2014, 08:15:52 AM

Hello!

I'm determined to develop a bitcoin and crypto scammer tracking website where you could verify if one:
- bitcoin address
- bitcointalk.org
- email address
was ever involved in a scam.

Anybody would be able to add personal informations about scammers and proofs, links or any other info

This service would be free.

What do you think about this?

Will the service be free or must we pay to use it ? However I think it is a great idea , good luck for everything.

Kprawn

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How are you going to know, which is good and which is bad? There are loads of them and sometimes competitors create shill accounts to bash their competition.

You will have a tough time, keeping it up to date too {They change, when they get caught out}

I think it's a good thing, but it's going to be difficult. Wink

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Quote from: dogevisitor on November 30, 2014, 08:15:52 AM

Hello!

I'm determined to develop a bitcoin and crypto scammer tracking website where you could verify if one:
snipped...

What do you think about this?

Awesome Idea!

http://www.badbitcoin.org/thebadlist/index.htm#K

dogevisitor

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Quote from: cloverme on December 02, 2014, 07:31:44 AM

Quote from: Superhitech on December 01, 2014, 07:59:54 PM

Hmmm. This would be neat, but easily abused. Who can edit it? Scammers could easily put false accusations against someone else. The trust system at bitcointalk is enough in my opinion.

I had the same idea myself, I lost 2 BTC to an add here in the forums for mining hardware. People are now buying/selling bitcointalk accounts, so even that has become an issue. You're right though, someone could just abuse the system and enter in false accusations.

New entries could be listed as with a transaction hash as a required field as part of some proof of a transaction. Another option would be the capability to vote up and vote down an entry with a cooling period so that someone wouldn't just register accounts and quickly vote-up, vote-down an entry. Entries could be marked as "suspect" on some sort of trust meter too until some type of admin-based validation is done. An example would be where the community continued to warn on lunamine as a scam, then they really turned out to be a scam when they up and left.

Good idea though, just needs some more features I think

The website is work in progress and yes, the transaction url is a mandatory field. The system checks automatically that the txid is genuine and makes some heuristic scanning of previous tx of the addresses involved.

I hope I have enough time to finish this project...Christmas is coming...

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Quote from: Superhitech on December 01, 2014, 07:59:54 PM

Hmmm. This would be neat, but easily abused. Who can edit it? Scammers could easily put false accusations against someone else. The trust system at bitcointalk is enough in my opinion.

I had the same idea myself, I lost 2 BTC to an add here in the forums for mining hardware. People are now buying/selling bitcointalk accounts, so even that has become an issue. You're right though, someone could just abuse the system and enter in false accusations.

New entries could be listed as with a transaction hash as a required field as part of some proof of a transaction. Another option would be the capability to vote up and vote down an entry with a cooling period so that someone wouldn't just register accounts and quickly vote-up, vote-down an entry. Entries could be marked as "suspect" on some sort of trust meter too until some type of admin-based validation is done. An example would be where the community continued to warn on lunamine as a scam, then they really turned out to be a scam when they up and left.

Good idea though, just needs some more features I think

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