Topic: Scamsite adkinsbet.com = bitlucy.com ? (Read 528 times)

Do not give him anything, or answer any of his nonsense. It is not worth your time. I ignored that Erdogan scammer for a long time. Someone who is willing to sell his soul for $21 cannot be expected to have common sense.

He's @Erdogan, the mighty 1xbit shill

In other words, what he is trying to say is that all newbies that open scam accusations here are slandering casino including 1xbit which is proven scam. He is trying to use this situation to compare it with 1xbit's, where we have had many victims create accusations here. But he always claims those accusations are false.

I think he means about old forum users who get surprise about the accusation posted by OP and I really get what he means, But actually majority ask proof because its really shady to have newbie posting some accusation on a casino without providing enough proof to validate what he is saying. And most provably this is the reason why majority didn't buy this accusation because many experienced user knows about there's certain trolls wandering around which mission is to destroy the reputation of certain casino which they think a competition to their businesses.

What becomes of the forum if they hang on to just words without any specific proof. No links, no screenshots, just some mindless obsession out of whatever business you had with adkinsvet.com which still you have t told the story or proved in anyway.

I handed this user same advise on this in the BitLucy service thread and the way to go about pushing the case if it's got any legitimacy at all. It's just awful to have seen the user follow the same trend in accusing BitLucy and Royse777. At first, the user seemed to have come up with an allegation that the campaign was filled with farmed accounts all tied to Royse777 and now, its about questioning her position as DT.

What is OP driving at exactly!
Similarity have never meant the same. At least, not where I am from and should you at OP hope to make anything off a case, bring proofs. It tells the story in an easy way.

The only surprising thing here is the user's lack of evidence. No doubt, it could be an alt account for sure but, the user ought to have known  better to post evidence. I doubt user owns or have ever deposited or played a game on Bitlucy. Besides, what are these similarities the user is referring to?
It's really funny and continues to amaze me how this newbie just comes up with this and expect to be taken serious!

would you mind elaborating when you say "experienced users are surprised"? because from what I can see their reaction were pretty normal(asking for evidence to back up the accuser's claim) since the casino that is being accused does not have an extremely bad reputation in the forum. 

I am surprised that so many exerienced users are surprised that Newbie account is slandering a casino. After all, almost every day there are such and similar accusations that slander casinos without evidence.

If really adkinsbet.com does that it is very bad. But your allegation has no base because no evidence to back up your point, therefore, your allegation is null and void. Even the 4 persons you mentioned have no name, so to what extent do we accept your allegation.
I will advise you to follow this link instructions to have good ideas on scam suspected cases next time. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-report-format-use-it-to-make-scam-reports-properly-260073
Section 1 subsection 1 in this board. You got that section of the scam report rules but the following sections are missing so please provide them.
Section 1
 subsection 2. The Scammer's profile like is needed
Subsection 3. The reference link is needed
Subsection 4. The amount Scammed or can't withdraw is needed
Subsection 5. Methods of transaction is needed
Subsection 6. Reasons why you can't withdraw is needed.
Section 2 of the rules provided some the Tips to report scam related cases.

Please click the link provided above to know more on scame report.

I also want to ask the OP. You are a newbie with just 8 activities, so what business did you do with AdkinsBET and when did you do the transaction?

He hasn't provided any evidence although almost everyone on this thread asks for the evidence of his accusation. If he had any proof he would have shown by now, but it seems he will continue to troll without evidence. The best we can do is that stop feeding the troll or better if mods can lock this thread.

I am not sure if it's someone alt's because I don't have any proof. I know we should ignore him if he doesn't provide evidence. But, If no one pays attention or doesn't say anything, He will continue it. At least we can ask him to submit some proof if he has. If he doesn't have, he should stop posting garbage arguments everywhere.

Many reputable casinos have their own shares of FUD, baseless accusations that cannot be proven by the accuser it's something that can help the reputable casino to stand on their ground and prove their worthiness in the trust of the community, he cannot show proofs and all allegations are worthless, he will eventually stop when he realizes he's just wasting his time when no one here agrees on what he is posting.

This is obviously someone's alt account that he uses just to slander a casino or something. The member just makes himself look like an immature jerk, and it's best to ignore him.

If there is a legitimate suspicion about the integrity of a business (or casino in this case) then it would be best to report such case with all the relevant details and evidence. But we don't see it here, and all he want is to make a huge scene over nothing.

Well, Saying something like that without any evidence doesn't help you. Do they scam you? Then Why don't you submit your proofs and let DT Members decide?
You have been making complaints from the beginning of the Bitlucy launch. As far as I understand, You have broken the bonus terms and conditions, so they have canceled your withdrawal.

I have to agree. He looks like some disgruntled Ex-bounty campaign worker who was in one of Royse777's bounties, since Royse777 has been managing bounty and signature campaign for a while.
He's more bitter than an Ex-girlfriend  

He's so deluded to think he will find peace in posting false claims.

I don't trust any gambling websites by default, but without posting any proof this looks more like some jibberish accusation from a member who is hiding his main profile in forum with using this newbie profile.
It's obvious that OP has some personal grudge against Royse777 and until I see some real evidence I am going to ignore him and all his posts with a click of a button.

Hint:
Look for his real account in members tagged by Royse777

OP, did you lose your money there?
if it is like that you can provide evidence, not fairy tale nonsense.

I don't understand what is your problem with Royse777 manager. but you very much seem to have a problem with it. not with your account this one, but I'm sure your other accounts in the past.

My guess is that soon in this thread there will be newbie accounts that provide more or less the same opinion as the OP expressed.

Proof?

Without any proof, you have done nothing

If you can't provide proof then this is no valid scam accusation

You have nothing to provide a proof here as you haven't deposited at BitLucy.com. Moreover, those people didn't made any deposit whose withdrawal got cancelled. They played with the bonus amount. BitLucy is new to the gambling industry and processing the withdrawals manually now. There is only one real complain about the withdrawals, but the user didn't follow the terms of the bonus. As a result the complain isn't valid there.

You are suspecting that BitLucy is operated by the same team who worked behind AdkinsBET. I have watched how AdkinsBET scammed people. There was a lot of complaints against them and user posted their proof also. We have also tracked down a similar site (4444sport.com) who was following the footsteps of AdkinsBET. There was also valid accusation against 4444sport. But you are accusing against BitLucy from the beginning without any proof. Seems like you have personal issue with the representative (Royse777) of the platform.

Do you have a personal grudge against Royse? Also, how sure are you that the "patterns" that you're seeing are exactly the same as to the casino that you've mentioned? And you do realize that if ever this new casino Royse is affiliated with comes scamming people early in the game, he/she will have lost a lot more than what he/she invested.

Substantiate your claims with proper proofs before people believe you. You were able to create an account here and post against BitLucy, but you're not even trying to convince us with hard proof.

All of what you are saying is based from nothing. Just like this one. Dude, I don't see any new untrusted feedback that Royse has given to anyone this month. But then you claim that he is tagging people without evidences.

Also this adkinsbet = bitlucy" is another trash analysis from you. Where did you just get that?  

You should provide evidence because without them this is nothing more than mere slander. If you can't provide solid evidence, at least express your concerns and try to clarify and present your side of the story. Without evidence or arguments on your side, this is nothing more than baseless accusation and there is nothing to discuss.

I like the idea that you are trying to warn us or be careful on new gambling sites but I think you should provide proof first that they have connection with the adkinsbet, I think Royse already answer why they didn't pay the user or why there is some kind of withdrawal issue but I think it was fixed now or not yet?

Why don't you let these people speak for themselves?

Whether you like it or not, you still need to provide substantial evidence. Without it, the community won't believe your words. AFAIK, you're the only one going after Bitlucy and @Royse777 for the past few days. Some members also refuted your claims about withdrawals.

Keep it about Bitlucy. If you have issues about his feedback, I suggest you open a separate topic in Reputation board.

edit: It seems like there are other two users complaining but both are newly created accounts. It's possible that they also belong to OP.

I don't see the logic in your post, the basic has been if you follow the rules your withdrawal will be approved Bitlucy is running a signature campaign, and they are spending more than what you're requesting, but they will not give in to your demand because if they give in they are tolerating abuse and cheating and this will harm their reputation one case of abuse that is tolerated will be too many coming in the future.

That makes things simple. Why should we believe you then? Might I ask you to stop looking at yourself with rose-tinted glasses? Not everything you say is the truth nor should it be considered as such, especially if you refuse to offer proof of your claims. Not to mention that most tags of Royse777 (if not all) have references linked to it (except the latest one, which seems like it was deleted or off limits for me) and not to mention that in his feedback he already tagged (Negative) people from adskinsbet (or shill accounts who defended the site) himself (which was an issue from last year it seems).

He has no evidence to support the accusation. Although his main purpose is to warn people, but it wont work like this. No one will trust him because of there is no valid evidence. I have no idea why he thinks like this but maybe he had a bad experience with new bookie in the past and he is so worry when there is another new bookie popped up in this forum. All in all it is a baseless accusation and we cant take it seriously.

Claiming to be operated as one company is huge claim so I guess you need to put a detail explanation with solid proof to consolidate your claim. Also move this topic as suggested by other on scam accusation so that you will be placed on right board for proper discussion of your assumptions.

Also don't answer with believe me because writing without proof will not validate anything.

How can you be so sure that it is being operated by one company, one entity?

Are you the same guy who says that he has been scammed with $150? (correct me if I'm wrong).

Anyhow, it's your word against the casino, and you should have at least evidences before accusing them both as scam.

No, that's not how it works. You need to provide evidence to back up your claims. If the system worked the way you suggest it should, half of the world would be in prison or dead because of hunches, feelings, and opinions.

Show us examples of some of those tags. I checked his most recent feedback and it's mostly related to people scamming or using multiple accounts in bounty and signature campaigns.

Compile those users who doesn't got paid in this thread.

There's no proof, so it's only your assumptions to determine Royse777 is the owner of the casino and also one man operation.

Well, this make your accusation goes wrong since you failed to give the evidence. Anyway why we should trust someone without any evidence?

I don't see your account got painted by Royse777, you're wrong here. Are you have an another account got painted by him? so that's why you're mad here.

Can you provide example on your claims that Royse is tagging without any evidence? The 4 people that claiming that didn’t withdraw the bonus amount is subjected to violation of the rules. Bitlucy has the right to halt withdrawal in case there’s some requirements that didn’t meet, I read one issue and the user play different slot games instead of pragmatic gaming which he agree on the written conversation with the support.

It’s rare to see someone complete the wagering requirements of the slot and win 125$ out of 7$ though. Again just provide solid proof and you will gain our trust about your scam accusation.

Based on his spam on Bitlucy he thinks and tries to justify that Bitlucy owes him $125 but of course, Bitlucy will not give in if he breaks the rules, there's a possibility that action will trigger the same action from the same users or other participants this action should not be tolerated, casinos should be firm on their judgment on implementation of the rules, the community will support casino who make a good judgement and uphold their rules.

Well, thanks for the help bislom but will you help us as well to follow your accusation, we somehow can't follow it. You can link the topics here regarding 4 users who were refused by bitlucy or post some screenshots regarding that. If your intention is to accuse bitlucy and Royse777 then move this on accusation board  or lock this and make another topic there attaching what you claim. You need evidence if you're accusing someone.

would you mind sharing evidence that shows bitlucy is adkinsbet? I've seen several accounts pop up once in a while when a new casino is launched accusing it to be the previously well-known scam site adkinsbet. none of them really provided evidence suggesting the casino they are accusing is actually adkinsbet.

as for your withdrawal, it's quite clear that you broke their rules.

I am helping the comunity, by warning people about this scam site. They refused to pay out 4 people already. I dont care about these shills and DT friends trying to protect royse.
He is the owner of the site, but he just tells everybody he has a little share so that they can not blame him if the casino does not pay out.
Believe me, its a one man operation.
Why should I provide evidence? The way they are handling withdrawal says enough.
And Royse is tagging people without evidence, this guy does not deserve DT status and this casino is a big joke.

You are judging base on your feelings and not by facts. You are attacking personally Royse777 and connecting the dots a scam casino to a new one that he manage without basis. I saw how Royse777 still properly replying on your negative comment spam in Bitlucy thread. You should focus on your own business and let other user protect there own money by DYOR on the casino. This is not helping the community at all.

Can you please share evidence? An acquisition without evidence just doesn't make sense to be honest. One operator can run multiple websites and we already have such examples, but that doesn't mean they are scam. Once you gathered the evidence, open a thread in the below mentioned sub-forum,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

It is the right place to talk about such things.

You can't just assume bitlucy owner is the same owner of adkinsbet until you have proof. Having patterns is just one but one solid proof would be more evident. Adkinsbet was somewhat connected to 1xbet in the past, maybe there is the need to look at it first.

Isn't Royse77 only managing their campaign? He doesn't look like he own it as he clearly posted it on the thread but he is closely working with the team which I guess he trusted them too.

Hi,

First, this should be in scam accusations, but I've already reported it to be moved.

Second, if you want to be taken seriously you should provide some kind of evidence and not just your word.

Third, what you say regarding Royse777's reputation is pure garbage. There are as of today 59 people who trust her judgement, and they are from all over the world, it is laughable that you say they are her friends.

After reading how they interacting with customers, I have only seen doing one sportsbook before interacting like this, and that was the scam project adkinsbet.com
Bitlucy is finding arguments not to pay withdrawals, and is operated by de corrupt DT member Royse777, which only got his DT rank because of his friends on the forum.
I am pretty sure that adkinsbet and bitlucy belongs to the same owner, the patterns are exactly the same - with the final purpose of not paying out customers.

Be warned, do not deposit money to bitlucy!