Topic: [WARNING] Avoid 4444sport.com until they change their behavior (Read 625 times)

Looks like a late Christmas gift for the scam hunters of bitcointalk.

But just like any other scammer on the internet, they will change names and possibly continue to run another site at which point someone again will call them out and they will run away with their tails between their legs. Till then be vigilant for similar looking sites and always be careful about Self-modded ANNs.

BTW did anyone try to report their domain name to the domain register (NameCheap) for being a fraudulent website? It can be worth a try.

Don't know who locked their self-moderated thread, but I believe OP (4444sport.com) has done it. I just tried to access the platform after watching this post. And I noticed that the website isn't reachable. Probably they have failed to continue their scam attempt for more long. Because, they were caught and tagged by the forum members for their unusual (fraudulent) activity. Thanks to everyone who posted negative feedback on their trust page and supported the flag.

this is from his thread:

" This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (69 posts by 21 users with 1 merit deleted.) "

the number keeps rising, and I still haven't seen anyone say that @4444sport.com has solved his problem, so I see the number of people being deceived by this site is also increasing

Not only will they delete complaints, but any comments that do not go in their favor, and even legitimate questions from respectable members. Clearly, they want to use this forum solely for their promotion to lure innocent victims to indulge in their scam.

I made a post in the thread of this casino that is being accused, my post was to ask him not to delete posts from people who are complaining about his service and that he strive to solve customer problems. but he deleted my post, with that you can say that his intention is not to provide good service, he will delete any complaints that are made against his casino, typical scammer behavior

This will take the true essence of the forum if they do that although its really bad to see those scamming keep happening here, but we will not get scammed if we are knowledgeable that's why we need to do research on lot of things especially we are new to the platform since we cannot trust anything online and its easy for scammers to flew away if they want to execute their crime here. I'd suggest for others old or new to stay only on reputable casinos since most of scamming issues with no chance of getting help is made by new casinos or sites.

The fact that the forum does not moderate scam make it's easy for the scammy sites to pop up once in a while and the best we could do is to expose them and warn members of the forum of the dubious character of stealing from their customers. I believe in a short while from now 4444sport will fade away from this forum.

Right. I had the same experience on their ANN Thread. After this accusation was made, I go there to see what's going on. After that, I leave my honest thoughts there and I expected a reply from their representative. Hehe, After a few hours, I got a PM and saw my post was deleted by 4444sports.
Anyways, The bad thing is forums do not moderate scams. But they allow creating self-moderated threads for financial services like Gambling, Exchangers. So, This forum becomes scam heaven for those scammers. They don't care about what people say. They keep deleting negative posts or any healthy criticism. That was supposed to defend by them but they don't care about it. I think Bitcointalk should make a change there. Since they don't moderate scams, They shouldn't allow financial services to create a self-moderated thread.

Since this 4444sport.com posted their thread mentioned by OP here, I feel kind of suspicious to them since they created a self-moderated one. They said that a lot of users are posting off-topics and spams, but the truth was those users was just trying to help clear some issues out. But the 4444 eventually deleted those posts, I also tried asking about it, but also got deleted by them.
I wouldn't dare putting any amount of money on casinos that makes them self appear clear to the community even if they're not.

abe paid scammers advertising 1hbet and adkinsbet your place is the least for prison.but the better option is with adkinsbet to end up like Tony.if this pig Adkinsbet accepts users from the US FBI will quickly see his bill 

I guess I would prefer you to admit that you have been drugged, drunk, or have some kind of mental illness, rather than imagining that you wrote this with full awareness of what it means.

Yes I first asked them a normal question and I participated in their fake competition, but I received no answer from them, they didn't pay anything and announce winners, and they are just ignoring everything.

One more suspicion has been raised against this casino. I just noticed that a member notblox1 left a negative trust on their profile due to suspicion that they were organizing a fake competition on the forum.

https://www.casino.org/news/body-of-online-bookmaker-5dimes-tony-found-in-costa-rica-cemetery/
I hope Adkinsbet ends up like Tony 

Adkinsbet will not pay anyone. He only collects deposits. And he no longer bothers to invent nonsense why he will not pay. Very impudent and disgusting type

Now there are 2 other players who are still waiting for their withdrawal although they requested more than a week ago.



Will all these pending withdrawal ended by the same accusation against the players like what 4444sports did against brassnuts?
I guess there are still some others pending withdrawals on 4444sports but not all of them report it in this forum.

Hello everyone

Just wanted to thank op and other users who decided to act and help community to recognise/stay away from scam bookies

I had history witn numbers of them, and now trying to keep an open eye whenever new bookies show up, yet I believe it would be good that this forum has some kind of regulative body or smth which would prevent advertisements or any other misleading activities from any sportsbook/casino which behaves unfair

Best regards

After creating their new ANN thread they haven't made any communication with him. younger41 got the last reply from 4444sport.com on 2nd December. And they said

This was the last post in their old thread by the OP. younger41 made 3 post in their self-moderated thread and all of those got deleted by 4444sport.com. He made a post today and said that

There is no reason to keep the participants in waiting. Because, all those games ended with clear result on December 5. Moreover, few forum members has asked them to post the winner list. They have ignore the question, where they are active to delete the complains from their self-moderated thread. BTW, 4444sport had run another contest earlier and they haven't posted the winner list of that contest too.

I'm reluctant to jump on the negative trust bandwagon based on a single complaint by you, and I'm still reluctant even with what you wrote above--and I'm not convinced yet that 4444sport is actually AdkinsBET, because I haven't seen any hard evidence, only similarities between the two (though if I had to guess, I'd have to say they're one and the same just based on the fact that I've seen that pattern of behavior before with scamming sites).  Should there be any more complaints about these guys, I'll be happy to support the flag and give them a red paint job.

Was there any communication between younger41 and 4444sport about the delay of his funds being returned or did they completely ignore him?

That's a secondary problem, IMO, but a real one.  Unfortunately scams have always been tolerated here by Theymos (and by extension, the moderators).  It'd be great if self-moderated threads weren't allowed in the gambling section, but I wouldn't get my hopes up about that being changed.  I think they're not allowed in the Auctions and/or Currency Exchange section(s), so it is kind of odd that a scammer could moderate his own thread in any section that allows an ANN.

That's an odd thread.  They don't say when the contest is going to end or when the winner will be paid or even if the winner will be announced (which they haven't been so far).  That does add to the growing pile of evidence in my head that this outfit is a scammy one.

Do you have evidence of that?  Did you start a scam accusation thread?  If you do, please post it.  I'm itching to neg these guys, and one more claim of nonpayment will put me over the edge.

Oh, I think it's entirely appropriate to crib about how the forum is.  It's a two-way street, isn't it?  Without the community there would be no forum, and without the forum there would be no community.  In addition to that, there is a DT list which presumably is a group of members whose trust and perhaps even opinions are valued by Theymos and the community, so shouldn't they have at least a little input as to changes they think should be made?  Hell, I think even non-DT members ought to have a say--and to be heard.

There's very little to debate now with regards to 4444.

Every user who has posted about their experiences there has, quite simply, had their money stolen.

The only other known interaction with 4444 is in this thread, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/4444sportcom-prediction-challenge-1000-weekly-reward-round-2-5373889, where once again they have failed to pay anything at all.