Topic: Scandal in Austria or another puncture of a liar Putin - page 2. (Read 479 times)

Not really. You said that all countries would welcome a partnership with Russia and I said that the ones that were abused by the Soviet union, especially the countries that were "aligned" with them in 1950-90 would not welcome it. It doesn't matter that now it's called Russian federation, it's the same country under a different leadership.


Looks like this is a sensitive topic for the Russians, but there was a lot of abuse in communism. You can say what you want about capitalism, it's not perfect, but at least nobody shoots you in the back of the head and buries you in a mass grave.

are you a christian converted from islam?

^^^ All of this that is done in America is being used by God to bring the most people possible to salvation. Where do you find freedom of religion greater than America? Certainly not among Islam. This religious freedom is causing the Bible to be preached around the world, while showing heathen nations that they had better change before it is too late for them.

Know it or not, even in the midst of the unrighteous acts U.S. military people might do, many military men and women promote God among the foreign nations... and most importantly, Jesus salvation.

plus mention him the billions of people that the american banking cartel has financiall excluded.

If you compare amount of jailed people in the USSR with same figures of the US penitentiary system, then you will see that there is virtually no difference.

In fact, USSR incarceration rate had a lowering trend while US incarceration rate is still groving. If you would dedicate some time to compare them with these of the rest of the world, then you will see that modern values of the US incarceration rate are keeping the 1st rank.

The US is literally a country of prisoners. You should also note that there is no separate statistics of politically motivated cases, and never were.

Consider examination of the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics before posting another bunch of propaganda.

Written by whom? By those who are believing (yep, thinking isn't a right word here) that atomic bombing is a reason of japanese capitulation?  

We're frequently reading a lot of funny articles about North Korea.

Like these about shooting the government officials using the mortar guns. There were also news about feeding people to rabid dogs and a lot of other bullshit. Why I'm calling this a BS? That's simple, because these "executed" people suddenly returned from the dead a bit later.


https://www.foxnews.com/world/north-korea-dictator-kim-jong-uns-executions-anti-aircraft-guns-flamethrowers-mortars
https://www.foxnews.com/world/north-koreas-kim-jong-un-uses-terrifyingly-creative-methods-to-kill-enemies
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/06/story-kim-jong-un-uncle-fed-dogs-made-up

And I'm not even counting the "news" which were claiming successful landing to the Sun or whatever. A vast share of publications about USSR were of the same "quality".

Regular NATO country citizen is bombed with propaganda in non-stop mode, resulting these people to lose any critical thinking when it comes to discussion of politically related issues. They would believe any shit, like bears walking on the streets, vodka or balalaika stories. You're not able to think rationally, you've lost your mind and you need to deal with it.

Here is a simplest example:

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/kompromat-russia-trump/index.html

It's unbelievable that people are ready to discuss such a nonsense seriously. In Russia, that would be a subject for some satiric show, no more.

Yeah we should trust a newbie account with zero activity. Just because you're saying us to do so.

do you know what capitalist views are? they are based upon the idea of some abusing others for their private gains.

soviet union wasnt more criminal than other state entities, in fact all that were even just similar in size including the usa also did their big scams.

additionally the rough reality didnt still reached the us empire, which still has to do a war at home to defend their capitalist financial sovereignity of their federal reserve.

all capitalist entities do massacres, or indirectly do them, you know why?

in order to define the losers that will be labourers and the winners that will be the capitalists.

you know about the massacre that split muslims into 2 forever?

same reasons. ali believed strongly in god and wanted to be chaliph.

Seems like people are still brainwashed about Puting being bad, etc. Putin to me seems to be really, REALLY smart, smarter than any other president in Europe, in fact most of the others seem like clowns to me, including my own in Spain. If you actually listen to any Putin interview, you will see for yourself how smart the man is.

Now there is no Soviet Union. We're talking about Russia! Why don't you tell me about the countries that have suffered from the United States? Do you know how many countries the US has bombed in the last 30 years and what that has led to? I will list a few of the US invasion:
Grenada, 1983.
Panama, 1989.
Libya, 1986.
Iraq, 1991.
Somalia, 1993.
Yugoslavia, 1995.
Afghanistan and Sudan, 1998.
Yugoslavia, 1999.
Afghanistan, 2001 – present.
Iraq, 2003.
Libya, 2011.
And there were many "color revolutions" in order to establish a government that will be controlled from America, including Ukraine! It is not Ukraine that is at war with Russia, but a handful of oligarchs from this country who fill their pockets with us dollars.
In the US, as in the USSR, there were political repression. And they were larger in scale than in the Soviet Union. If you know nothing about it, I advise you to study the history of the United States not from school textbooks. Read these books referenced in the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_Repression_in_Modern_America
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Political_repression_in_the_United_States
If you like BBC, follow this link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/topics/Political_repression_in_the_United_States
Did you forget the Lynch courts?
And do not read in the future American fake news about Russia!

Did you have history at school? I shouldn't even ask because in some countries these topics aren't even covered, but i'll give you some examples.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47725239
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_the_Soviet_Union

Have you heard about people prosecuted and jailed in the Union for having capitalist views? Have you heard of media censorship? It was almost like in NK right now where you can go to a labor camp for not crying on a funeral of the head of state.



The Union was supported because the union made sure people were uneducated and there was no free media. Books were being censored, Russian language was a compulsory subject in schools and if you had other views there were paragraphs for that. Dissidents were being taken to camps in Siberia or shot in the head, like
What about the countries that were forced to obey and had puppet governments with strings in Moscow, like Hungary, Poland and so on? I'm sure they were happy about being ruled by Russia as well. Probably that's why they were protesting and opposing it so much.

I'll also add that prolonged communism lead to hyperinflation, especially in the frontier countries. You can also read about it online. 

what abuse are you talking about?

soviet union continued rule over countries that the tzar ruled, people where worldly minded back then and the soviet union was supported, much more than the banana republic scam they are suffering now.

today not countries suffer but people as money earning cattle, to their central banks

communism is today dominating europe, and is returning in many forms like the chinese american trade war.

besides the soviet union was never abusive, regarding infrastructure it gave infrastructure to many countries it ruled, in and didnt took population from them away.

All? Really? What about the countries that suffered abuse by the Soviet Union? Are you so sure they are dreaming about cooperation with Russia? What about Ukraine that is basically at war with Russia? What about Poland that couldn't even get the wreckage of their crashed plane back from Russia and was being threatened by gazprom? AFAIK Lithuania is also afraid of Russia. Most of the former Soviet Union would do anything not to become a part of it again, including an all out war.

You're talking complete nonsense! If you have not been to Russia and do not know, it is better to keep quiet! Putin gives his citizens something that Americans and Europeans have never even dreamed of - self-esteem! Russians can walk around the city at night without fear for their lives. All that is published in Your press are provocations and insinuations aimed at the division of the peoples of Europe and Russia.

Trust me russians hate Putin just as much as other countries. But they're too scared to say it outloud

All European countries would be happy to cooperate with Russia and develop together, but the participation of most European countries in NATO and us pressure on these countries stops their economic development and desire to cooperate with Russia. Dirty paws of the U.S. getting in the lives of people all over the world and leave behind destruction, death, dirt and stench. Putin cares about his citizens and I wish You the same leaders, not cowards and murderers.

no none can stop putin in europe. european politicians cant beat his smartness.

Alik Bakhshi

Scandal in Austria or another puncture of a liar Putin

      It seems that it has already become a tradition in every political election scandal to look for the hand of Russia's main liar Putin. So this time, now in Austria, the dirty political connection between the Vice-Chancellor of Austria and the head of the far-right Freedom Party Heinz-Christian Strache with Putin was revealed (https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-48320868). The fact is that Strache unexpectedly resigned, and the reason for this was a hidden camera video showing how a niece of a certain Russian oligarch promises Strache and his party assistant Johan Gudenus to buy back shares of influential Austrian tabloid Cronen Zeitung, after which force the newspaper to support " Freedom Party ”in the upcoming parliamentary elections. And in exchange for this service, Strache offers her government orders from Austria. At the conclusion of the deal, Strache says: "If you gain control of the Kronen Zeitung three weeks before the election and help us win, we are ready to talk about everything." In short, Strache is ready to betray the interests of the country just to achieve success in the elections. We are talking about the parliamentary elections in 2017, when the far-right “Freedom Party” unexpectedly ended up in third place. One feels the hand of fascist Putin (1), who does not spare money for political support of his own kind. How can one not recall Stalin concluding agreements with Hitler on friendship and mutual assistance and a secret plot to divide Europe with the establishment of a new common border between the USSR and Germany (2). Strache is well aware that as a result of such a deal he is hooked with Putin. The situation is confirmed by the phrase "we are ready to talk about everything." This explains the frequent visits of Strache himself and other members of his party to Russia and even the annexed Crimea, which they considered to be the legitimate territory of Russia. Moreover, the Freedom Party actively urged the EU to lift the anti-Russian sanctions.
     Austria is awaited by the inevitable parliamentary elections, and the Freedom Party is unlikely to confirm its phenomenal success, which it achieved in the previous elections with the support of Putin.

   It is time for Western politicians to understand that, by contacting the dirty liar Putin (3), they themselves unwittingly risk getting dirty in his dirt.

1. The ghost of Hitler wanders through Europe. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/#post-alikbahshi-38049
2. Appeal to the Commission under the President of the Russian Federation to counter attempts to falsify history to the detriment of the interests of Russia. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/?skip=100#post-alikbahshi-6934
3. Empire of Lies and its main liar. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/?skip=50#post-alikbahshi-22317

05/19/19