Topic: SCANDAL SONM.IO I AM LOOKING for BOUNTY Hunters or DEBT collectors in MOSCOW - page 2. (Read 4207 times)
May 02, 2017, 07:56:07 AM
so SONM scam?
May 02, 2017, 07:35:42 AM
Regulations of pre-ico clearly stated that the owner of sonm.io is (according to whom is databases) Andrew Voronkov, performing this crowdfunding.
PART of PREICO regulations from sonm.io website during preICO says:
“Terms and Conditions
These Terms and Conditions is a contract between the user and SONM.io and applies to your use of the SONM.io website (https://sonm.io) and any services provided in conjunction with the website and association with SONM.
In these Terms and Conditions:
- Terms and Conditions also referred as Agreement
- The user also referred as you, user or your
- Sonm.io is also referred as Sonm.io, SONM, SNM, we, us or our
- Sonm.io website (https://sonm.io) is also referred as website
When using this Website or Services, the user shall be deemed to have accepted and agreed to be bound by the terms and conditions of this Agreement, and our Privacy Policy.”
Alexei says that he is not side of my agreement and that he doesn’t need to pay anything.
How can you call that any other than a fraud ?
Refer to leaving core dev which is telegram group not established by any law or agreement as your second way of fraud attempt is hilarious and is in logical contraposition to statement that you don’t need to pay as sonm.io team is not side of agreement. Mess in code and all shitstorm about it don’t need be part of my story … and daily updates in phone.
Owner of sonm.io was during preICO Andrev Voronkov, I haven’t seen any agreement which could take away those funds. All passing of rights of brand sonm.io must be done with co-founders signature. Andrev is also only admin of my creation fanpage of sonm.io on facebook.
http://imgur.com/a/vxjvN
What kind of fraud is that? Show the documents based on which you fraud escrow to pay you money. Legendary SebastianJu definitely had good documents to pass you all funds unless he is also a part of this fraud.
Your statement is clear that you don’t need to pay because agreement was with Andrew not you, but on other side you can’t be owner of sonm.io. Only way to this preICO is by violating my agreement by you - Alexei Antonov, Andrev Voronkov and Sergei Ponomarev.
I try to mediate and negotiate to save sonm brand value but they attitude and final statement is the same all the time. In short -> We (Alexei and Sergei and Andrew) trick you and don’t need to pay anything. ( I think that I am not the only one tricked by you).
To avoid payment to me is some kind of fraud please show some details and agreements I am really interested.
Alexei Antonov from Federal Finance messing with project for 1 month and then Alexei Antonov violatie agreements to change CEO to his part time employee Sergei Ponomarev, how fishy is that…
I hope you all end up in jail.
PART of PREICO regulations from sonm.io website during preICO says:
“Terms and Conditions
These Terms and Conditions is a contract between the user and SONM.io and applies to your use of the SONM.io website (https://sonm.io) and any services provided in conjunction with the website and association with SONM.
In these Terms and Conditions:
- Terms and Conditions also referred as Agreement
- The user also referred as you, user or your
- Sonm.io is also referred as Sonm.io, SONM, SNM, we, us or our
- Sonm.io website (https://sonm.io) is also referred as website
When using this Website or Services, the user shall be deemed to have accepted and agreed to be bound by the terms and conditions of this Agreement, and our Privacy Policy.”
Alexei says that he is not side of my agreement and that he doesn’t need to pay anything.
How can you call that any other than a fraud ?
Refer to leaving core dev which is telegram group not established by any law or agreement as your second way of fraud attempt is hilarious and is in logical contraposition to statement that you don’t need to pay as sonm.io team is not side of agreement. Mess in code and all shitstorm about it don’t need be part of my story … and daily updates in phone.
Owner of sonm.io was during preICO Andrev Voronkov, I haven’t seen any agreement which could take away those funds. All passing of rights of brand sonm.io must be done with co-founders signature. Andrev is also only admin of my creation fanpage of sonm.io on facebook.
http://imgur.com/a/vxjvN
What kind of fraud is that? Show the documents based on which you fraud escrow to pay you money. Legendary SebastianJu definitely had good documents to pass you all funds unless he is also a part of this fraud.
Your statement is clear that you don’t need to pay because agreement was with Andrew not you, but on other side you can’t be owner of sonm.io. Only way to this preICO is by violating my agreement by you - Alexei Antonov, Andrev Voronkov and Sergei Ponomarev.
I try to mediate and negotiate to save sonm brand value but they attitude and final statement is the same all the time. In short -> We (Alexei and Sergei and Andrew) trick you and don’t need to pay anything. ( I think that I am not the only one tricked by you).
To avoid payment to me is some kind of fraud please show some details and agreements I am really interested.
Alexei Antonov from Federal Finance messing with project for 1 month and then Alexei Antonov violatie agreements to change CEO to his part time employee Sergei Ponomarev, how fishy is that…
I hope you all end up in jail.
May 01, 2017, 09:48:20 AM
Barnaba, you gotta stop posting this bullshit, as you are not a SONM team member for more than 2 months.
Just to make things clear:
1. Barnaba's message (04 feb 2017) about leaving SONM team (he has edited the message, but it's still in the quote in the reply):
https://i.imgur.com/mg2E6uH.jpg
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17733030
Just to make things clear - he hasn't quit the SONM team, he was kicked because of incompetence and lack of skills\commitments.
2. One of the few examples of Barnaba's work (and his skills):
3. Official press releases from the SONM team and Andrew Voronkov, one of the SONM founders who has hired Barnaba:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18471271
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18457225
Barnaba, you are not a SONM team member, you can't provide any decent results and commitments, and you are trying to damage the SONM project reputation.
SONM team will announce an official press release about your fraud attempts in 1-2 days.
Stay tuned.
Just to make things clear:
1. Barnaba's message (04 feb 2017) about leaving SONM team (he has edited the message, but it's still in the quote in the reply):
https://i.imgur.com/mg2E6uH.jpg
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17733030
Just to make things clear - he hasn't quit the SONM team, he was kicked because of incompetence and lack of skills\commitments.
2. One of the few examples of Barnaba's work (and his skills):
3. Official press releases from the SONM team and Andrew Voronkov, one of the SONM founders who has hired Barnaba:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18471271
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18457225
Barnaba, you are not a SONM team member, you can't provide any decent results and commitments, and you are trying to damage the SONM project reputation.
SONM team will announce an official press release about your fraud attempts in 1-2 days.
Stay tuned.
April 30, 2017, 11:40:40 PM
Was there no escrow service?
April 30, 2017, 07:04:36 PM
SCANDAL SONM.IO I AM LOOKING for BOUNTY Hunters or DEBT collectors in MOSCOW and/or LAW COMPANY to REPRESENT me LOCALLY.
WILLING to PAY fair % fee for collecting DEBT
Server www sonm.io illegally transferred from initial team to some impostors team just few days before launch of preICO.
MARKETERS for project don't get PAYMENT.
CO-FOUNDERS are being snatched by new fresh team without legit establishing of new team.
Holders of my SONM.io funds, this is just a theft.
Not authorized getting in possession of funds which are not yours (how can you call it?) and then unauthorized dispose of those funds at free will without any proper control.
Not paying employees and co-founders is a scandal image of sonm.io team especially Sergey Ponomarev, Alexey Antonov and Andrey Voronkov former CEO.
I AM LOOKING for DEBT collectors in MOSCOW and LAW COMPANY to REPRESENT me LOCALLY.
I WILLING to PAY fair fee for collecting DEBT
Typical agreement in team all have the same structure, if you have experience in law please check it before you place your bet to me ...
http://imgur.com/a/RbTor
Lets track the up and downs of the project:
Almost half a year ago co-founders start working on PoC drug discovery at home, which was started in general in 2009.
Timetable of changes in whitepaper is outstanding just 2 days before ICO start old whitepaper was replaced with new one.
Team was changed in majority just few days before start of pre-ICO, not everybody was aware of that.
Maybe there were some different www sites depends on which country or IP you are from.
Experienced developers which attracted more than 100BTC of investment were changed just few days before preICO launch to very young and inexperienced team of developers, which are in bigger number to compensate qualifications level. Fear of failure started emerge from that day.
Team from original whitepaper and original co-funders:
http://imgur.com/a/A2UNH
In the shapeshift time:
http://imgur.com/a/NEXhQ
Newborn team 7 maybe 8 days before preICO starts:
http://imgur.com/a/G6ngH
Actual team: Ponomarev + former CEO changed to DrugDiscovery at home CEO just PR figure not in project anymore. Rest come just to collect money after first investors declaration.
Team cooperation and synergy was a big problem in the team.
From the very beginning the whole project was at risk because of bad management of people, tasks in project and holding work on purpose by Sergey Ponomarev, who wanted the whole project for himself. Shadows of crippled team management.
At some point I was included in telegram channel SONM CORE-developers, without particular reason as in this project I should be responsible for marketing, biz dev and design concept in general, not technical details.
It appeared that Ponomarev is not obligated to do smart contract development because of typo in his agreement.
See here his original responsibilities
http://imgur.com/a/a0cb6
To sabotage and take over project from original team:
and his email about refusing to make Ethereum development which everybody in team, including him, were perfectly aware that this suppose to be his duty and it was main reason why he is participating. Also he PROMISE me that at the end everything for me should work out well …
[Sergeis email ]
http://imgur.com/a/s6FLB
Even that wasn't the worst thing, after few weeks of disputes, he created a smart contract which was not so good in quality as we would expect from someone who is describing himself on sonm.io website as experienced smart contract developer. Here is a crosscheck reference of Ponomarev code done by junior Ethereum developer Max Taldykin.
http://telegra.ph/Review-of-the-SONM-presale-contract-02-04
After I saw code and it’s reference by Max sent to Andrew, and as my PR and image was used in whitepaper to bust credibility to this code, I asked to be described differently and publicly stated that I am not responsible for core development of sonm project, as I am part of marketing sale team not core dev team of sonm architecture. This code was terrifying at every line and design and way of thinking like someone who want it all at all costs.
After few days, the dispute end-up that Max has created new smart contract and I do additional testing of it, in the meantime, as we already had big delays, mostly because of Ponomarev denies of action on smart contract development and fuss which arises around that.
CEO Andrew ask me to edit post so it would look better.
The fights inside team for domination in project between Andrew and Ponomarev were everyday more and more clear. Even if whole team was cooperating in March, after few potential investment declarations, money on table triggered greed in young inexperienced in development part of team.
Nevertheless after few more delays we set a new date of crowdsale, end of March. It appears that the www server was sabotaged or hacked. The team was replaced not in legit way. Few days later new crowdsale date appears on www site, Andrew gives away project www site under control of Ponomarev’s new team, knowing that they have a lot of obligations for original team for they work as mine documents were base for every whitepaper after 1st:
http://imgur.com/a/X3BYh
New whitepaper which must be reduced from all my influence was reduced from 46 pages to this lacking on real technical and detailed concept fast draft whitepaper on website sonm.io.
They even officially kicked some team members, but not me as very cooperative person not looking for argues. I was never mentioned as ex member, ex co-founder, I haven't got termination of agreement. As there would be not base for it with any kind of reasoning.
But whole February and March and even April I was receiving email from CEO about current tasks for me:
[LISTED ]
February
http://imgur.com/a/ppd8P
March
http://imgur.com/a/5yLtZ
At the end Sergey Ponomarev, Alexey Antonov, and Andrey Voronkov refused to pay me my part, due they just don’t want to, they have no legit claims to my part of shares in project, ICO and trademark.
I had quite big influence on vision of product which could be very beneficial for customers and investors, right now it is very reduced so that team members would be capable to talk about it and explain it on interviews.
As I value my work and have legal documents to execute my claims as I stated at the beginning I am looking for law local representative and debt collector company with location preferably in Moscow.
I will give up 15% or more I can negotiate the % to give up, at this point the time is essential as they have funds as it is just few days after funds were released after crowdfund.
The three people which can have direct access to funds is definitely Ponomarev as CEO and one more person, most likely among
Alexey Antonov and Vasiliy Ivanov (rebel Salesman)
With lead dev code being smashed by new junior smart contract developer...
The mastermind behind the scenes and pusher to monetization to this project asap to get funds knowing that Sergei is not capable to lead any team at all.
[Sergeis Ponomarev CEO capabilities in Alexei’s view]
http://imgur.com/a/roXyF
He is also initiator of transferring control of sonm.io domain to current sonm.io team after everything was settled down and there was agree to do two separate backend solution with one selling point to users. (As Sergey had so many development visions better than BOINC, which can't even till now they weren't fully transformed to whitepaper, maybe in time visions can be transferred at least to basic documentation )
Fast Money for Alexei most important:
http://imgur.com/a/Z4VVW
Recently also Alexey try to bribe me for silence and not triggering all legal issues which occurred during crowdsale performance.
even so he claims it his own initiative, rest of the team is not even basically aware of that something like law exist in Russia. Maybe stealing toys on playgrounds were their hobby with no consequences, adult real world is little different than WoW or Lineage.
Please give me feedback with propositions as it is very legit and easy to execute case ( I have dozens of emails , agreement, and hundreds of screenshots for evidence for companies which will be initially interested).
It was shocking to me that finally after seeing all good results and in details of my agreement they refuse to payout for job done.
As experienced developers don't control neither 25 neither 58% funds of project there is risk of LISK scenario for it right now or worse, as it is hard to develop code being in jail.
So Investors watch out this project and check if team is arrested or not …. and is it changing more and more or not. Next month maybe new team will be in sonm. Better make screenshots right now and download whitepaper, because it can change 24 h before crowdfunding start and all recessions and interviews on network will be outdated.
Like this CEO and preICO encourage movie changed:
Former CEO:
Andrew Voronkov
https://www.dropbox.com/login?cont=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dropbox.com%2Fhome%2FSONM%2FVideo with
New Impostor CEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTMCAXDMyfc&t=179s
May’s long weekend is coming and I know that debt and law companies may have problems to analyze everything very carefully but short look on documents can give a clear view of current situation.
I AM LOOKING for BOUNTY Hunters or DEBT collectors in MOSCOW and/or LAW COMPANY to REPRESENT me LOCALLY in MOSCOW.
WILLING to PAY fair % fee for collecting DEBT
WILLING to PAY fair % fee for collecting DEBT
Server www sonm.io illegally transferred from initial team to some impostors team just few days before launch of preICO.
MARKETERS for project don't get PAYMENT.
CO-FOUNDERS are being snatched by new fresh team without legit establishing of new team.
Holders of my SONM.io funds, this is just a theft.
Not authorized getting in possession of funds which are not yours (how can you call it?) and then unauthorized dispose of those funds at free will without any proper control.
Not paying employees and co-founders is a scandal image of sonm.io team especially Sergey Ponomarev, Alexey Antonov and Andrey Voronkov former CEO.
I AM LOOKING for DEBT collectors in MOSCOW and LAW COMPANY to REPRESENT me LOCALLY.
I WILLING to PAY fair fee for collecting DEBT
Typical agreement in team all have the same structure, if you have experience in law please check it before you place your bet to me ...
http://imgur.com/a/RbTor
Lets track the up and downs of the project:
Almost half a year ago co-founders start working on PoC drug discovery at home, which was started in general in 2009.
Timetable of changes in whitepaper is outstanding just 2 days before ICO start old whitepaper was replaced with new one.
Team was changed in majority just few days before start of pre-ICO, not everybody was aware of that.
Maybe there were some different www sites depends on which country or IP you are from.
Experienced developers which attracted more than 100BTC of investment were changed just few days before preICO launch to very young and inexperienced team of developers, which are in bigger number to compensate qualifications level. Fear of failure started emerge from that day.
Team from original whitepaper and original co-funders:
http://imgur.com/a/A2UNH
In the shapeshift time:
http://imgur.com/a/NEXhQ
Newborn team 7 maybe 8 days before preICO starts:
http://imgur.com/a/G6ngH
Actual team: Ponomarev + former CEO changed to DrugDiscovery at home CEO just PR figure not in project anymore. Rest come just to collect money after first investors declaration.
Team cooperation and synergy was a big problem in the team.
From the very beginning the whole project was at risk because of bad management of people, tasks in project and holding work on purpose by Sergey Ponomarev, who wanted the whole project for himself. Shadows of crippled team management.
At some point I was included in telegram channel SONM CORE-developers, without particular reason as in this project I should be responsible for marketing, biz dev and design concept in general, not technical details.
It appeared that Ponomarev is not obligated to do smart contract development because of typo in his agreement.
See here his original responsibilities
http://imgur.com/a/a0cb6
To sabotage and take over project from original team:
and his email about refusing to make Ethereum development which everybody in team, including him, were perfectly aware that this suppose to be his duty and it was main reason why he is participating. Also he PROMISE me that at the end everything for me should work out well …
[Sergeis email ]
http://imgur.com/a/s6FLB
Even that wasn't the worst thing, after few weeks of disputes, he created a smart contract which was not so good in quality as we would expect from someone who is describing himself on sonm.io website as experienced smart contract developer. Here is a crosscheck reference of Ponomarev code done by junior Ethereum developer Max Taldykin.
http://telegra.ph/Review-of-the-SONM-presale-contract-02-04
After I saw code and it’s reference by Max sent to Andrew, and as my PR and image was used in whitepaper to bust credibility to this code, I asked to be described differently and publicly stated that I am not responsible for core development of sonm project, as I am part of marketing sale team not core dev team of sonm architecture. This code was terrifying at every line and design and way of thinking like someone who want it all at all costs.
After few days, the dispute end-up that Max has created new smart contract and I do additional testing of it, in the meantime, as we already had big delays, mostly because of Ponomarev denies of action on smart contract development and fuss which arises around that.
CEO Andrew ask me to edit post so it would look better.
The fights inside team for domination in project between Andrew and Ponomarev were everyday more and more clear. Even if whole team was cooperating in March, after few potential investment declarations, money on table triggered greed in young inexperienced in development part of team.
Nevertheless after few more delays we set a new date of crowdsale, end of March. It appears that the www server was sabotaged or hacked. The team was replaced not in legit way. Few days later new crowdsale date appears on www site, Andrew gives away project www site under control of Ponomarev’s new team, knowing that they have a lot of obligations for original team for they work as mine documents were base for every whitepaper after 1st:
http://imgur.com/a/X3BYh
New whitepaper which must be reduced from all my influence was reduced from 46 pages to this lacking on real technical and detailed concept fast draft whitepaper on website sonm.io.
They even officially kicked some team members, but not me as very cooperative person not looking for argues. I was never mentioned as ex member, ex co-founder, I haven't got termination of agreement. As there would be not base for it with any kind of reasoning.
But whole February and March and even April I was receiving email from CEO about current tasks for me:
[LISTED ]
February
http://imgur.com/a/ppd8P
March
http://imgur.com/a/5yLtZ
At the end Sergey Ponomarev, Alexey Antonov, and Andrey Voronkov refused to pay me my part, due they just don’t want to, they have no legit claims to my part of shares in project, ICO and trademark.
I had quite big influence on vision of product which could be very beneficial for customers and investors, right now it is very reduced so that team members would be capable to talk about it and explain it on interviews.
As I value my work and have legal documents to execute my claims as I stated at the beginning I am looking for law local representative and debt collector company with location preferably in Moscow.
I will give up 15% or more I can negotiate the % to give up, at this point the time is essential as they have funds as it is just few days after funds were released after crowdfund.
The three people which can have direct access to funds is definitely Ponomarev as CEO and one more person, most likely among
Alexey Antonov and Vasiliy Ivanov (rebel Salesman)
With lead dev code being smashed by new junior smart contract developer...
The mastermind behind the scenes and pusher to monetization to this project asap to get funds knowing that Sergei is not capable to lead any team at all.
[Sergeis Ponomarev CEO capabilities in Alexei’s view]
http://imgur.com/a/roXyF
He is also initiator of transferring control of sonm.io domain to current sonm.io team after everything was settled down and there was agree to do two separate backend solution with one selling point to users. (As Sergey had so many development visions better than BOINC, which can't even till now they weren't fully transformed to whitepaper, maybe in time visions can be transferred at least to basic documentation )
Fast Money for Alexei most important:
http://imgur.com/a/Z4VVW
Recently also Alexey try to bribe me for silence and not triggering all legal issues which occurred during crowdsale performance.
even so he claims it his own initiative, rest of the team is not even basically aware of that something like law exist in Russia. Maybe stealing toys on playgrounds were their hobby with no consequences, adult real world is little different than WoW or Lineage.
Please give me feedback with propositions as it is very legit and easy to execute case ( I have dozens of emails , agreement, and hundreds of screenshots for evidence for companies which will be initially interested).
It was shocking to me that finally after seeing all good results and in details of my agreement they refuse to payout for job done.
As experienced developers don't control neither 25 neither 58% funds of project there is risk of LISK scenario for it right now or worse, as it is hard to develop code being in jail.
So Investors watch out this project and check if team is arrested or not …. and is it changing more and more or not. Next month maybe new team will be in sonm. Better make screenshots right now and download whitepaper, because it can change 24 h before crowdfunding start and all recessions and interviews on network will be outdated.
Like this CEO and preICO encourage movie changed:
Former CEO:
Andrew Voronkov
https://www.dropbox.com/login?cont=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dropbox.com%2Fhome%2FSONM%2FVideo with
New Impostor CEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTMCAXDMyfc&t=179s
May’s long weekend is coming and I know that debt and law companies may have problems to analyze everything very carefully but short look on documents can give a clear view of current situation.
I AM LOOKING for BOUNTY Hunters or DEBT collectors in MOSCOW and/or LAW COMPANY to REPRESENT me LOCALLY in MOSCOW.
WILLING to PAY fair % fee for collecting DEBT
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