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Quote from: muchdogecpumine on January 13, 2014, 06:14:21 PM

If you don't mind me asking, which of the two did you sell off, the ~2 mil or the ~1.85 mil?

the 2, and it did not/has not sold yet.

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Quote from: muchdogecpumine on January 13, 2014, 06:14:21 PM

Quote from: clueclub on January 13, 2014, 04:47:20 PM

honestly, i was a little irritated you asked me to show examples. im not sure why i felt that way. i think it was more frustration frothing. i went back to retrace my steps.

I wasn't doubting you, I just wasn't able to find any transfers out with the 4 example addresses I tried. I was going to add "I don't doubt you, I just wasn't able to find one myself to my request". Sorry if my post came across as condescending, that was not my intention. I appreciate the fact that you're one of the people willing to do time consuming blockchain exploring!

no condesention, it was more frustration in the respect i couldn't see why it didn't work the same way with your experience. do you have a cryptsy account?

at any rate, its not out there in black and white, did you see the final wallet my deposits stopped at? just a mere 2 steps from my initial deposit address?

edit:
Number of outputs    2
Outputs
Index    Redeemed at input    Amount    To address
0    8bb07ac971…27bed80912    0.0100409    DJfsvLuy2cjbAqZzBqZij189gXNR33wnjt
1    b548bf7f04…af9c993584    10000000    DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi

so.... me, your scryptpool thief, and poor mr. baby seal.....all use cryptsy.
its why cryptsy didnt reply to your email. half the addys you submitted to them, are theirs.

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Quote from: clueclub on January 13, 2014, 04:47:20 PM

honestly, i was a little irritated you asked me to show examples. im not sure why i felt that way. i think it was more frustration frothing. i went back to retrace my steps.

The good the bad and the ugly. I like it. Crypto is the new wild west after all Wink

I wasn't doubting you, I just wasn't able to find any transfers out with the 4 example addresses I tried. I was going to add "I don't doubt you, I just wasn't able to find one myself" to my request. Sorry if my post came across as condescending, that was not my intention. I appreciate the fact that you're one of the people willing to do time consuming blockchain exploring!

I'm wondering if crypsty moved your money around because it was a much larger deposit than the ones that I checked from other people. If you don't mind me asking, which of the two did you sell off, the ~2 mil or the ~1.85 mil?

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Quote from: muchdogecpumine on January 13, 2014, 02:44:14 PM

Quote from: clueclub on January 13, 2014, 02:18:21 PM

start with your known wallet address, then make a deposit, any amount, into your exchanges deposit address. now follow that on the blockchain. your coins will set there for a few minutes before being transferred out to a house wallet. whoops Sad

I asked a few people on my pool's IRC channel for the addresses they deposited their doge in with Cryptsy. I could see the transactions where they sent their doge to these addresses, but there were no transactions out. I assume that Cryptsy leaves them in the "personal" wallets until they sell them. I didn't see the expected move to a big exchange wallet. Do you have any examples of it working the way you describe? I'm not saying you're wrong, I just haven't been able to find any examples of that yet.

I emailed Coinedup and Cryptsy. Coinedup responded immediately and said that the addresses didn't belong to any of their addresses. Cryptsy gave me a form letter response:

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Thank you for submitting your business inquiry,
Our team will review your request and if deemed plausible we will get back to you.
Please know that we receive a thousand requests daily and only those requests that
appear to be workable will be replied to.

They haven't responded to any subsequent inquiries. Maybe they are too busy. Maybe they know that the Scryptpools doge was dumped on their exchange but they don't want to deal with the controversy. I wouldn't exactly blame them, it's not their fault and there is very little they can do to remedy the situation.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060196/
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)
"Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo." (original title)
A bounty hunting scam joins two men in an uneasy alliance against a third in a race to find a fortune in gold buried in a remote cemetery.

can i first ask, how many deposit address did you check? out of the 2 examples for one account i have, they moved in 24 and 12 hours.

honestly, i was a little irritated you asked me to show examples. im not sure why i felt that way. i think it was more frustration frothing. i went back to retrace my steps.

to start at the beginning, here is the block creation and movement into the pool wallet. http://dogechain.info/tx/84cf2fee7c8b5ec4251b8ef3c38772a9ba0a2f0ffd15ac17604bc22baa2cae50

here it moves from what i believe is the pools wallet, which is not individual but quite mingled, to my cryptsy doge deposit address. http://dogechain.info/tx/39ae2519de0161d2188ec0dd3a11c97a9216fcc2cadaa856f0f7f2cd5be429c2

here is the cryptsy doge deposit address. i posted one sell order, and left the other sit. both moved to another wallet without any action on my part. its part of their internal process apparently. http://dogechain.info/address/DPhEW1xEjQEVJrc9XoiZD8CdSmSovcLRWt

if you follow the 2 mil tx, http://dogechain.info/tx/9f60c3270ea71c69386e5fa2b470c45ab77ab209d3f844f9e94cb0b99aff06b8

it moves to one wallet and sits. http://dogechain.info/address/DDZ1qhnttyHqMhdTyyLLEJg8kndkkYWrLW

being only one other tx, i decided to check it. the 1.8 mil. it makes a move to another wallet as shown by the tx http://dogechain.info/tx/22506de77387bb4175f3fab329379ca80642c09616f1654faa829000d5317f82

from there, that wallet make deposits into a few accounts as seen here. http://dogechain.info/address/DTkRmHuy1LYeTeeZSt3otpPkdC1d1S9hEG

here, im admittedly getting a little lost. in addition to checking the wallet that my 1.8 was sent to, i checked the tx. http://dogechain.info/tx/9288d7fe694b0ada2a419d43a01cabec2084f5fe78f107b4a15926dedeeb5483 Huh

only 2 outputs. and 2 steps away from my initial deposit address.

interesting, no? i guess it makes sense why you didnt get a reply from cryptsy, and you wont without that attorney.

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Quote from: muchdogecpumine on January 13, 2014, 02:57:41 PM

This law firm represented victims in a cryptocurrency class action before. Maybe they would be interested? http://www.gslawny.com/ They have the added advantage of being in the same state as Scryptpools' web host, Digital Ocean.

Nice. I've also talked to a lawyer friend locally that claims could get their firm's services discounted. Personally I'm hoping that amount up for identification bounty is enough to cover filing the suit and issuing the subpoena to get the identity. Beyond that continuing with a civil suit probably doesn't make sense but then there's the criminal Internet fraud route.

Would someone be willing to contact the above firm? I'll see if I can get a price out of my friend.

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Quote from: smapdi on January 13, 2014, 06:45:21 AM

Quote from: muchdogecpumine on January 12, 2014, 08:57:03 PM

Two posts, no replies to reasonable requests for information. More of the same.

Agreed. I see no reason for any change of plans.

In my opinion, what we need is a John Doe civil lawsuit.

This law firm represented victims in a cryptocurrency class action before. Maybe they would be interested? http://www.gslawny.com/ They have the added advantage of being in the same state as Scryptpools' web host, Digital Ocean.

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Quote from: clueclub on January 13, 2014, 02:18:21 PM

start with your known wallet address, then make a deposit, any amount, into your exchanges deposit address. now follow that on the blockchain. your coins will set there for a few minutes before being transferred out to a house wallet. whoops Sad

I asked a few people on my pool's IRC channel for the addresses they deposited their doge in with Cryptsy. I could see the transactions where they sent their doge to these addresses, but there were no transactions out. I assume that Cryptsy leaves them in the "personal" wallets until they sell them. I didn't see the expected move to a big exchange wallet. Do you have any examples of it working the way you describe? I'm not saying you're wrong, I just haven't been able to find any examples of that yet.

I emailed Coinedup and Cryptsy. Coinedup responded immediately and said that the addresses didn't belong to any of their addresses. Cryptsy gave me a form letter response:

Quote

Thank you for submitting your business inquiry,
Our team will review your request and if deemed plausible we will get back to you.
Please know that we receive a thousand requests daily and only those requests that
appear to be workable will be replied to.

They haven't responded to any subsequent inquiries. Maybe they are too busy. Maybe they know that the Scryptpools doge was dumped on their exchange but they don't want to deal with the controversy. I wouldn't exactly blame them, it's not their fault and there is very little they can do to remedy the situation.

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something to add for all the junior crime fighters. i wouldnt skim these articles, nor the comments.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/09/05/follow-the-bitcoins-how-we-got-busted-buying-drugs-on-silk-roads-black-market/

then, when you are done there, chew on this for a while. again, the meat is in the comments, and they do go on for quite a while.

http://www.reddit.com/r/SheepMarketplace/comments/1rvlft/i_just_chased_him_through_a_bitcoin_tumbler_and/

and just in case you didnt put it together in the hour of reading the comments, http://www.reddit.com/r/SheepMarketplace/comments/1s2upf/the_sheep_market_scam_address_does_not_actually/

ill be nice and try to summarize. early, early on in the tracking it was discovered that the "thief" was somehow manipulating a btc-e deposit address that was being used by many, many btc-e customers. a user recognized one of the wallet addresses listed by the OP as showing up in HIS chain. as it turns out, the thief dumped the coins onto an exchange and sold them off, early in the chain. so in effect, many people thought they were somehow manipulated into this "scam".

i stated earlier in the thread "thats not how exchange wallets work". i dont think i could have been more wrong. start with your known wallet address, then make a deposit, any amount, into your exchanges deposit address. now follow that on the blockchain. your coins will set there for a few minutes before being transferred out to a house wallet. whoops Sad

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Quote from: muchdogecpumine on January 12, 2014, 08:57:03 PM

Two posts, no replies to reasonable requests for information. More of the same.

Agreed. I see no reason for any change of plans.

In my opinion, what we need is a John Doe civil lawsuit.

That will allow us to subpoena DigitalOcean and/or Teespring and get Phonetic's identity.

From there we can continue the civil suit and file a complaint with the FBI.

It's not super expensive to get the lawsuit started but if anyone has any lawyer friends they can hit up, please post back.

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Quote from: koppit on January 10, 2014, 03:23:15 PM

Interesting...

Two posts, no replies to reasonable requests for information. More of the same.

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Quote from: Phonetic on January 10, 2014, 03:10:21 PM

Almost everyone here believes me to be a scammer.

Please believe me when I tell you all that I am truly sorry for the dogecoins that are owed to you.

Another pool operator has been very kind to me over these past few days and is helping me get through this. You have no idea how badly I feel about this situation. It is draining the life out of me every second of every day.

My words may mean nothing to most of you, but this is the truth.

It is not possible for me to purchase the amount of dogecoins that are owed to many of the miners of my pool. When I first realized this, I abandoned my ship. It was foolish for me to do this and the fact that I did that will make it much harder for anyone to believe a word out of my mouth. I don't blame you but please, read my thread from the beginning, and I hope you can see from the start I gave my pool everything I had.

The person I am working with has encouraged the idea of reopening my pool and has agreed to run it with me to make sure there are no issues with double payouts. Any owed balances will be paid using any and all fees that my pool collects. If / when the owed balances are settled in full, the person who is helping me will take full control of the pool. You will no longer have to deal with me. I'm not cut out for this, and I realize that. This was my first pool and will be my last pool. This is a terrible situation for all of my miners and I'm sorry that I couldn't fix the problems with my pool.

It's not easy coming to this forum and reading the things people are saying. I'm not a bad person. I've done right my whole life. I will do everything I can to right this ship and make things right.

Interesting...

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Quote from: mitymouse link=topic=39776javascript:void(0);2.msg4430429#msg4430429 date=1389366000

Thanks Clue. So far I haven't been able to link the scryptpools account to http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi

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That. Is. Ridiculous.

Good work clueclub!

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that was actually my third attempt to recreate the path at this sitting. twice i hit different wallets with parked coins and no sends.

the third time i stuck to wallet links whenever available, only using tx links when necessary.

again, the only link im suggesting is that there is a "path" that ends at a destination provided by the OP.

i suppose you could use the in-wallet message system to contact some of the active accounts.

would it be out of line to ask an advertising game dev, to explain how he spending money out of an account that was described as an investor vehicle? not soo much to prove his innocence, but more to help shed some light as to where his "ownership" ended in the chain. with all those emails and a twitter account, it shouldn't be hard to ask.

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yes

At this point, only action counts.

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"I will find a way to get enough doges to process the rest of the payouts and reinstate my credibility."

why would he need "to get enough doges" when he apparently has 3b doges stashes away

hes just buying time to bug the hell out

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Quote from: Gelbstich on January 09, 2014, 05:25:49 PM

Quote from: namecointrader on January 09, 2014, 05:08:13 PM

Quote from: scarface on January 09, 2014, 04:58:19 PM

Quote from: namecointrader on January 09, 2014, 04:54:49 PM

Phonetic is back. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362153.new#new

ahahah he just added that so people will back off while he sells the rest of the doge

Well the bounty is only coming down when we are remunerated.

Phonetic posted exactly the same stuff he already posted 32 days ago. Roll Eyes

Quote from: Phonetic on December 08, 2013, 05:24:37 AM

Scrypt Pools had many problems and many coins were lost due to multiple payout problems.

I was in over my head the moment the pool went past 500 mh/s.

I did my best to keep it running but I failed. I'm embarassed and truly sorry.

I will find a way to get enough doges to process the rest of the payouts and reinstate my credibility.

Quote from: Phonetic on January 09, 2014, 04:19:08 PM

Scrypt Pools had many problems and many coins were lost due to multiple payout problems.

I was in over my head the moment the pool went past 500 mh/s.

I did my best to keep it running but I failed. I'm embarassed and truly sorry.

I will find a way to get enough doges to process the rest of the payouts and reinstate my credibility.

He edited his original post as well as his signature to reflect his apparent sentiments

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Quote from: namecointrader on January 09, 2014, 05:08:13 PM

Quote from: scarface on January 09, 2014, 04:58:19 PM

Quote from: namecointrader on January 09, 2014, 04:54:49 PM

Phonetic is back. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362153.new#new

ahahah he just added that so people will back off while he sells the rest of the doge

Well the bounty is only coming down when we are remunerated.

Phonetic posted exactly the same stuff he already posted 32 days ago. Roll Eyes

Quote from: Phonetic on December 08, 2013, 05:24:37 AM

Scrypt Pools had many problems and many coins were lost due to multiple payout problems.

I was in over my head the moment the pool went past 500 mh/s.

I did my best to keep it running but I failed. I'm embarassed and truly sorry.

I will find a way to get enough doges to process the rest of the payouts and reinstate my credibility.

Quote from: Phonetic on January 09, 2014, 04:19:08 PM

Scrypt Pools had many problems and many coins were lost due to multiple payout problems.

I was in over my head the moment the pool went past 500 mh/s.

I did my best to keep it running but I failed. I'm embarassed and truly sorry.

I will find a way to get enough doges to process the rest of the payouts and reinstate my credibility.

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