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Topic: SCUMBAGS PAXFUL.COM Helping scammers to get away. Please advice (Read 3246 times)

newbie
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I was trading on localbitcoins and never had a problem, but paxful has full of scammers scamming through paypal using various methods. Avoid paxful as much as you can, there are nothing but a bunch of big time scammers, some with high reputation but have stolen paypal accounts
full member
Activity: 145
Merit: 102
Did you try to use another alternative like https://www.megachange.is ?
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Paxful.com is a scam. Trade on localbitcoins . com next time

Take a look on their scam site from this links

1) https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6jqlpp/stay_away_from_paxfulcom_the_moderators_are/

2) http://www.nairaland.com/3884643/www.paxful.com-fraud-scammer-site-founder

3) https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/paxfulcom-moderators-stealing-people-bitcoins-codedly-scam-and-fraud-site-1987998

4) http://www.nairaland.com/3887327/never-trade-paxful.com-owner-start#57917835

They will ban the vendor, take all his coins and won't even resolve issue with the Card owner.  Scam both Vendor and Card seller




The owner were caught with drug weeks ago in Miami, USA.

Popular site in USA Posted this, read it here https://cointelegraph.com/news/paxful-exchange-ceo-and-cto-arrested-in-miami-on-weapons-and-drugs-charges






STAY AWAY FROM PAXFUL.COM PLEASE, THEY ARE DANGEROUS.

newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
I agree with OP 100%. This Paxful site is a joke, and makes all Bitcoin look like a scam.

We review sites independently to help the community and put our experiences online.

Paxfulreview.com is the website for our review of Paxful. Just want to share that with the community. Pay the love forward.
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal.

ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal.

Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND".
SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR!


 Grin Grin Grin waiting  Roll Eyes

Do i understand you correct - that "FRIENDS AND FAMILY" is impossible to chargeback?

If the funds were backed with a credit card, you can chargeback through that card. So, no, it is not impossible.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Check this Scam accusion against Sarahiko.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15470621


actually, ure is not a accusation, its just wrongly accusing. let me ask u. did u or did u not take my money and refuse to refund AND did not give me my bitcoins?

i did not take your money. You have tried to steal me. This is an Scam attempt.
hero member
Activity: 772
Merit: 500
Check this Scam accusion against Sarahiko.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15470621


actually, ure is not a accusation, its just wrongly accusing. let me ask u. did u or did u not take my money and refuse to refund AND did not give me my bitcoins?
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
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don't listen to a scammer. any method on paypal is subjected to chargeback, because you can file for non-authorize transaction. like a bank. however, if you file for that, paypal will first investigate if that really did happen. if found out that you lied about it, your paypal might be banned.

Sarahiko has a scam accusation against them here --> Hero Member Sarahiko trying to Scam via Paypal. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hero-member-sarahiko-trying-to-scam-via-paypal-1538734 Please look into this before considering a trade.
member
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hero member
Activity: 772
Merit: 500
Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal.

ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal.

Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND".
SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR!


 Grin Grin Grin waiting  Roll Eyes

Do i understand you correct - that "FRIENDS AND FAMILY" is impossible to chargeback?

don't listen to a scammer. any method on paypal is subjected to chargeback, because you can file for non-authorize transaction. like a bank. however, if you file for that, paypal will first investigate if that really did happen. if found out that you lied about it, your paypal might be banned.
sr. member
Activity: 742
Merit: 252
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Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal.

ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal.

Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND".
SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR!


 Grin Grin Grin waiting  Roll Eyes

Do i understand you correct - that "FRIENDS AND FAMILY" is impossible to chargeback?
hero member
Activity: 772
Merit: 500
There have been several other similar threads about Paxful pulling scams in the past. It looks like they steal money selectively, on people they think are "suspicious" and in situations like this there is nothing you can do to fight back. I don't know how accurate this information is, but it's stored on their domain lookup (not verified in any way):

Registrant Contact Information:
Name: ARTUR SCHABACK
Organization
PAXFUL
Address
54 EAST 40TH ST
City
NEW YORK
State / Province
NY
Postal Code
10017
Country
US
Phone
+267.6076869
Email
paxful [-at-] gmail.com

That phone number points to Philidelphia

none of them are in america. and i intend to try to do a fight back once. have some money to spend, it just has to break down to who can do better seo, them trying to put themselves on good side, or me trying to tell the world the truth.
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1192
There have been several other similar threads about Paxful pulling scams in the past. It looks like they steal money selectively, on people they think are "suspicious" and in situations like this there is nothing you can do to fight back. I don't know how accurate this information is, but it's stored on their domain lookup (not verified in any way):

Registrant Contact Information:
Name: ARTUR SCHABACK
Organization
PAXFUL
Address
54 EAST 40TH ST
City
NEW YORK
State / Province
NY
Postal Code
10017
Country
US
Phone
+267.6076869
Email
paxful [-at-] gmail.com

That phone number points to Philidelphia
hero member
Activity: 772
Merit: 500
Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal.

ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal.

Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND".
SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR!


 Grin Grin Grin waiting  Roll Eyes

first things first. what did i lie about? and ethey, stop using new alts. anyway im sick of all of u losers. go ahead and spoil the community. anyway 200 is nothing to me, but its probably a sack worth of grains for u. so yea keep it. i tip the bartender more on good days. this thread is about paxful not doing what is right. not a thread for me to prove i am not lying. well, the fact now is i have sent the paypal, and i lost my paypal, yet paxful awarded the coins to the buyer. may i ask why? on the basis i MAY have a chance of charging back? then they jolly well award every single transaction to buyers from now. because if not, i spoke to my lawyers, i can sue them for dependency, and dont worry im not going aginst paxful, im going against the owners personally. check with ur lawyers if i am right what i am saying now. oh yea i remember their names now. ray and arthur. and being responsible due to the fact, they are acting operators/owners of paxful.com.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal.

ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal.

Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND".
SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR!


 Grin Grin Grin waiting  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 742
Merit: 252
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thanks for ur advice erika, but i made that payment in donations. u can't charge back a donation. the only option i have in paypal is to contact seller. or report as unauthorized access. so paxful the smart scumbags, they adviced me to go do that. which i have already forwarded the entire log to paypal. obviously paypal can't do anything to them. but i am sure backpage can. they claimed to be official exchanger for backpage, using hacked techniques, anyway to cut it short i informed backpage. i really love to see those scumbags get shut down

back to topic, if i charge back based on unauthorized access, i wont win it, because i really did login to my paypal. i am not going to lie to paypal about things that did not happen and get my account banned cos of 200 bucks.


I'm not so sure about chargebacks with PayPal as I haven't used it to send money. But I read that any method of payment can be chargedback if you contact support and say that you haven't receive the product after sending the money. I read that in their TOS.

Also, you need to submit a proper scam report in this thread if the scammer is from this forum so that Default Trust members leave him ratings and he isn't able to scam anyone later.


The problem is that it was donation, not selling of product. So only unauthorized transaction can be chargeback. Scammers know that, and one time i was scammed like this also. Never donations, only normal selling transaction!
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
You can contact this user and try to present him your situation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/paxfulbitcoin-520886
As far as I know he is a Paxful support staff. They also have their own forum here: https://talk.paxful.com

Here is another discussion about Paxful if you find anything helpful from there: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-paxful-legit-1337755
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1094

thanks for ur advice erika, but i made that payment in donations. u can't charge back a donation. the only option i have in paypal is to contact seller. or report as unauthorized access. so paxful the smart scumbags, they adviced me to go do that. which i have already forwarded the entire log to paypal. obviously paypal can't do anything to them. but i am sure backpage can. they claimed to be official exchanger for backpage, using hacked techniques, anyway to cut it short i informed backpage. i really love to see those scumbags get shut down

back to topic, if i charge back based on unauthorized access, i wont win it, because i really did login to my paypal. i am not going to lie to paypal about things that did not happen and get my account banned cos of 200 bucks.


I'm not so sure about chargebacks with PayPal as I haven't used it to send money. But I read that any method of payment can be chargedback if you contact support and say that you haven't receive the product after sending the money. I read that in their TOS.

Also, you need to submit a proper scam report in this thread if the scammer is from this forum so that Default Trust members leave him ratings and he isn't able to scam anyone later.
hero member
Activity: 772
Merit: 500
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You need to submit the scam accusation report in this format. Also, provide the chat messages as a screenshot instead of copy pasting.

You can chargeback via PayPal and it seems this user scammed you: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ethey-798843. Payful looks shady if they keep saying BTC won't be released to you and recommend you to do a chargeback.

thanks for ur advice erika, but i made that payment in donations. u can't charge back a donation. the only option i have in paypal is to contact seller. or report as unauthorized access. so paxful the smart scumbags, they adviced me to go do that. which i have already forwarded the entire log to paypal. obviously paypal can't do anything to them. but i am sure backpage can. they claimed to be official exchanger for backpage, using hacked techniques, anyway to cut it short i informed backpage. i really love to see those scumbags get shut down

back to topic, if i charge back based on unauthorized access, i wont win it, because i really did login to my paypal. i am not going to lie to paypal about things that did not happen and get my account banned cos of 200 bucks.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1094
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[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

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[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]


You need to submit the scam accusation report in this format. Also, provide the chat messages as a screenshot instead of copy pasting.

You can chargeback via PayPal and it seems this user scammed you: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ethey-798843. Payful looks shady if they keep saying BTC won't be released to you and recommend you to do a chargeback.
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