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So glad to have you here longandshort.

I agree with you 100%, nobody can articulate their position quite like you. 

No dude, you say "Buy MY coins, cause I want quick buck"...
I'll wait for your pumps whenever that comes...should be fun considering that the dev of this coin is acting like a kid...

Most of its founders seem to be invested in its future knowing full well its tech and ability to change the way we think about this industry and interact with it. So until Shadow (and ill remind you its only a few months old)..until it makes a more robust core to then build upon. It is being modest and the market cap and amount of people invested and looking at it reflect that..

That will ultimately change when people/founders are comfortable at a price they wish to sell their holdings for. I cant speak for them but you cant just shuv a coin down peoples throat with bs marketing and graphics and expect it to be a project of integrity and worth; just to solve the distribution issue.. Shadows primary function is not really to be a currency to be honest and i think its foundations being built and its current tech are proving as such. If you just look a little deeper and away from bittrex charts. Its more complicated and has far more substance. Some of the tech that is in it and will be in it; will literally change the Internet and the way we interact with it; if you allow it to..

Its currency aspect will ultimately motivate people to look while its primary function is to be a showcase of that cutting edge cryptography tech which will and is useful and will further be relevant as time rolls on.. This also motivated by money, i,e its ability to reward contribution to its network of featurs held within its code. It will ultimately encourage more growth within its network of talented devs/supporters building on it (apps, Internet games, business systems ect ect) thus making it more exposed and attractive to not only crypto enthusiast but the world.

Simply put, the tech within it will be monetised at some point and people can and will need it to use its features..that is something that is a long way down the track and comes with mass mainstream adoption but right now the important thing is to focus on its core and hammer that out in my opinion..its amazing tech and people will come, thats a given but it must remain focused and its trying to do that!

I really encourage you to take a look at it and its community..no one has been trying to shuv it down anyones throat yet...Its like the ball effect when you hold it under water..once you let it go you know its going to explode to the surface to be exposed to the world  and it will make a spalsh right?!! 

Let's not even talk about Blocknet.   At this point, that's water under the bridge.   What's next?   How can we distribute the coins to more than 200-300 at most.   Right now, there's only around 150 with more than $100 invested in SDC....   What do we do to distribute to more people since we are way pass mining phase now.   No significant new coins are being created to be spread to more people....

They all start with one person! and have done, please i don't see your point of argument other then to state something that can be said about any project including bitcoin! You have a point i just don't see how it is applicable to just this project in light of the topic here which is the blocknet! And for the a line points to you being sour about something that really has nothing to do with how many people hold or wont hold it in the future!

Fact is no one is saying they have the solution to fair distribution yet...we are all working on it and until we do have a "perfect" solution that argument is weak and clearly loaded with something else!!

Please do read the stats.   How do you plan to expand the # of people that will actually use/accept Shadow coins?   How can SDC possibly become a currency with only 300 or so people??!?  100 SDC is only worth around $7 USD.  

So there are only around 100 addresses with any significant amount of investment in SDC.     The more and more I think about this fact, it's scaring the crap out of me since I am in the top 50....   No way that 100-150 people can make this coin work if we don't expand.   I just don't see it.

"Technically", all the dev said was that they gave permission for XC to include them in the list.  Given how quickly it all happened I have a feeling that they hadn't given it a lot of thought at that point.

Pulling yourself out of something at a later date is almost always far worse than waiting to see if it's truly advantageous or not.

Blocknet may not be the be all and end all to cryptos issues and certainly is not the be all to its ultimate future and success. It is an idea not yet implemented, one that needs to prove its worth before elite tech joins in!

If this was about money purely then we would all be for the blocknet because apparently its going to solve all crypto economy issues! There is nothing stopping Shadow from joining in the blocknet later but in my opinion its wise for the core team to just focus entirely on their own project and hammer out its core foundations..

I also, personally think that Shadow has the potential to solve all of this within one network! An that is something you will have to kick back, relax and soak in! Its not fair what some of you are saying..fact is the dev team and project need to focus on their project and the blocknet is just another distraction that can be persured later on if need be. But again i think all this can be solved within Shadows network, it certainly has the potential to hold its own and certainly the plans and tech ideas for the future that will completely change the way you think, see and interact with the Internet and online  communication and of course  currency!!

The decision is wise in my opinion because Shadow is about to launch some extremely useful projects and needs all the team and its supporters energy focused on that. It certainly does not need anymore distractions and because it is able to enter blocknet at anytime it is not a loss or damage to anyone..It is just a very wise choice.

I advice some of you to accept it without dragging my name through the gutter again and again..some of the things some of you put my name to are just bonkers and you should really re-read what you are even insuating!!!!.

OK Viper. It seems that you know the "absolute" number of  pro and against Blocknet.
I'm only looking at the facts.
1. The dev announces the joining of Blocknet.
Two big holders complain and make a lot of noise threatening to dump their coins. One of them is a known manipulator of the crypto market.
2. The dev comes and make another announcement: We are out of the Blocknet.
What's next ? If Pookie and Longshort changes their mind and they want to join the Blocknet, the devs comes and say : Oops we change our mind again. We are joining the Blocknet.
Where is all that fuss about technology and improvement ? Even if Blocknet proves to be just BS. Who is stopping shadow to get out of it at anytime ?
I'm not going to argue anymore. This coin is not part of my plans anymore. Wish you all good luck.

I'm just a guy that looks for interesting coins to get into and I voiced one of my concerns about XC earlier.  Besides, if XBlock proves to be beneficial down the road, and it's open source, and it's decentralized so that whether a coin can implement it or not isn't dictated by a few, then I really don't see what the issue is.

Your sig don't even have SDC so... hmmm... obviously you aren't the ones with a lot of SDC

You are absolutely and positively wrong there.

"if we don't expand the number of people that owns SDC" And how is that supposed to happen ?
Joining the blocknet would have been a Statement that shadow means business and is not afraid of taking things seriously, and that would have attracted more and more buyers, let alone the fact that being part of the blocknet would have brought more income for the coin, making it stronger. The faith of the coin is in the hands of a few. I've never seen in my life such a change of decision, after the complaint of 2 holders. WE, all the others seem to have been happy of joining the Blocknet.
Clearly, our voices did not matter much!

The problem with SDC at its core is that the coin distribution is really skewed to the people that mined it at the beginning.   You can totally tell from the rich list.

http://sdc.blockexplorer.cc/richlist/index.php?min=0

Look at these stats:

Only 381 addresses with at least 10 SDC
Only 290 addresses with at least 100 SDC
Only 215 addresses with at least 500 SDC
Only 177 addresses with at least 1000 SDC
Only 101 addresses with at least 5000 SDC
Only 33 addresses with at least 50000 SDC
Only 18 addresses with at least 100000 SDC

The whole SDC basically is owned by under 350 people (some wallets for sure have more than 1 addresses).   (Not to mention that pookielax and mr.boh have a huge portion of SDC waiting to dump on our ass.)

That can only mean that this coin is not distributed evenly and in the long term, the coin will not survived if we don't expand the number of people that owns SDC.  

I really need to reconsider my position in SDC after this debacle....

I've been waiting for this coin to move for ages. I'm may not be a big holder of shadow with my 10k coins but with the news of Blocknet I really thought that things are going to improve.
It looks like the 2 biggest holders of shadow pookie and longshort really can decide where this coin to go.
You say "discussions and votes amongst team members" decided the future of this coin. Really! Why didn't you vote "amongst team members" before making the announcement of joining the Blocknet ?
This comes to show that your interest in Crypto technology and evolution is very little, and 2 or more big holders can decide on the future of it.
As Viper said these 2 were more "vocal". Of course they were, because there is big money involved in their loud talking.
You and them probably have the biggest money invested in the coin, so you are not looking at the future of the coin but for profit that can be manipulated by few holders. That makes this coin despite its technology, a pump and dump for the future.
Should you have joined the blocknet there would have been some rules to respect and fair-play not just pump and dump.
Each coin had to keep pace with the technology.
It looks that pookie and longandshort are afraid of that and you too and rather stay solo in order to manipulate and decide the faith of the coin at anytime.
So i'm waiting for that pump, whenever you and the big holders decide, to dump mine.
Very disappointed  to find out that this coin is only for money making. Your change of decision based on the big holders just proved that.

Ryno I think you have made the right call.
Whilst I think collaboration is great for crypto; the motive behind Supernet/BlockNet is purely to pump their coins.

If they really want BlockNet to be taken seriously it should be separate entity, open sourced day one and let other devs contribute in a open fashion.

Dang. Was really hoping to see SDC participate in blocknet.
Oh well. Guess the reason will be shared with us soon.

Exactly

Kind of makes me think of a child who doesn't want to share his toy because it's his toy and he doesn't want anyone else playing with it.  All the while all the other kids are sharing their toys and having a blast.  At the end of the day it's still your toy, but you're the one playing with yourself in the corner.

Out of curiosity, which of the coins on the list had something better than what SDC is offering?

Don't get me wrong, I understand the benefits of synergy.
But those benefits are mostly advantageous to the parental envelope.

If SDC can really deliver all its promises in a timely fashion,  it can probably compete with the entire group rather than feeding it.

Disappointed to say the least. It took nothing at all from SDC and would have brought so much more new users to SDC.