Secondstrade.com stole 0.9733BTC [Proofs Inside] - page 2.

sp3edm

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Quote from: Blazed on October 12, 2016, 04:33:12 PM

Waiting to see a reply from the owners on this. I think it is a little fast to drop a negative until they respond, though. Sometimes people get a little busy and refunds can be delayed.

I'm in the same case of tautvilis.
Blazed, the owner is ignoring our messages... you can see on the official thread.
I sent some pm and never had response.

He will never refund us, so people need to be warned to avoid future scams from him.
The main reason seems because the owner of secondstrade made a new game called "txdice" who was shitty coded and resulted a lost of 9 BTC... So he needs to scam to recover money. Angry

For information, 0.8 + 0.9733 + 0.5 => 2.2733 BTC scammed in 5 days. (only for 3 people).

suchmoon

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https://bpip.org

Quote from: Blazed on October 12, 2016, 04:33:12 PM

Waiting to see a reply from the owners on this. I think it is a little fast to drop a negative until they respond, though. Sometimes people get a little busy and refunds can be delayed.

I negged them even before tautvilis PMed - clearly secondstrade is aware of the issue, it's been several days, their own terms state "after 6 confirmations", they have refunded some users recently but not the OP and a few others.

I can always revise or remove the feedback but their actions are highly suspect at this time so the site should be avoided until they refund or provide a valid reason not to.

tautvilis

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Quote from: Blazed on October 12, 2016, 04:33:12 PM

Waiting to see a reply from the owners on this. I think it is a little fast to drop a negative until they respond, though. Sometimes people get a little busy and refunds can be delayed.

I've now been waiting 5 days for the refund, although it is clearly stated in their rules that ""Bet Amount above the maximum amount will be refunded after six confirmation."

Blazed

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Waiting to see a reply from the owners on this. I think it is a little fast to drop a negative until they respond, though. Sometimes people get a little busy and refunds can be delayed.

tautvilis

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I have messaged these members from default trust:
"BayAreaCoins", "markj113", "dooglus", "suchmoon", "cryptodevil", "shorena", "Blazed", "Tomatocage", "OldScammerTag", "Raize", "OgNasty", "SaltySpitoon", "BadBear", "theymos", "Vod", "RHavar", "tysat", "dogie", "jackjack", "Dabs", "DannyHamilton", "xetsr", "Mitchell", "hilariousandco", "TheButterZone"
I can only send a message to up to 10 people at once so I only sent a message to people that I am familiar with.

sp3edm

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Quote from: spartak_t on October 12, 2016, 06:33:43 AM

Guys,

I think that a separate thread should be created, where everybody should post their "story". I already notified secondstrade (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16524353) about another scam accusation, but please understand that its difficult to follow everything. I will do my best to assist you.

I started new scam thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16540424

spartak_t

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@FAILCommunity

Guys,

I think that a separate thread should be created, where everybody should post their "story". I already notified secondstrade (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16524353) about another scam accusation, but please understand that its difficult to follow everything. I will do my best to assist you.

loveofmylife

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One more day, do you guys get the money back? Update the status, I usually see many complaint in their OP, he runs a so big paid campaign with lowest rate, IMO he is a greedy casino owner. I wish you win win win, and let him broke.

rabiow12

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SECONDSTRADE.COM still GOT NO FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKING SINGLE RED TRUST INTERSTING!! Angry

sp3edm

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tautvilis, i'm too not refunded by the owner.

Tx ID: https://blockchain.info/tx/1add566e74d516dbde41718f048c6f1e0870f180945393171366b8dfd68f3c83 - 0.8 BTC

It seems like Secondstrade.com wants to keep our money because they lost 9 BTC at their shitty tx dice game...

On secondstrade.com notice, it say if amount is over limit, the tx is refunded automatically after 6 confirmations. That's not true.

Chris!

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Wow the scam accusations keep popping up for secondstrade. I saw that they were having some technical difficulties but this is getting ridiculous. Keep us in the loop OP.

tautvilis

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I am not the only person who is not refunded by the owner:

Quote from: ?? on ??

Are you serious admin? I SENT TO YOU 2 PMs, 2 POSTS IN YOUR THREAD FOR REFUND

People, let's see the honesty of the owner of secondstrade.com.
I sent 0.8 BTC by error... (it was over limit so game was not played)

Tx ID: https://blockchain.info/tx/1add566e74d516dbde41718f048c6f1e0870f180945393171366b8dfd68f3c83
Secondstrade tx status: http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=1add566e74d516dbde41718f048c6f1e0870f180945393171366b8dfd68f3c83 (NOT PLAYED)

Since 2 days, i have no responses, the admin ignore all my pms etc...
Please refund my transaction

Can someone from default trust add him some negative feedback. Maybe a red trust rating will speed the things up.

actmyname

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Spear the bees

Quote from: tommy163 on October 09, 2016, 02:15:46 PM

Post this in their OP, his op is not self moderated one, so feel free to post negative against them, if they want to continue the business, he will pay you. And don't forget leave this site after you have the money

tautvilis did.

Quote from: tautvilis on October 08, 2016, 04:29:28 AM

Quote from: secondstrade.com on October 08, 2016, 04:11:10 AM

We thought like you, but transaction id can be selected.

"Bet Amount above the maximum amount will be refunded after six confirmation." I've sent you 0.9733BTC and that transaction already has over 125 confirmations. Please refund.

And secondstrade posted this:

Quote from: secondstrade.com on October 08, 2016, 07:53:13 AM

Our system had a problem for about 10 hours .
But it was fixed.
We will refund for the bet of the time.
But scammer will not be refunded.
Thank you

But it's unclear who they are referring to.

tommy163

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Post this in their OP, his op is not self moderated one, so feel free to post negative against them, if they want to continue the business, he will pay you. And don't forget leave this site after you have the money

Avirunes

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Maybe he was busy then. Anyway I will send a Pm to the accused to give him some light about this thread. BTW may I know for which game in secondstrade you send the btc.

rabiow12

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me too i got scammed for more than 0.5 btc and no refund till now the funny part their home thread if full of scam accusations and the owner have no fucking red trust
So i understand that- this forum simply full of bastards and thiefs and motherfuckers and the fairness pretenders .... Angry

bitbollo

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Nec Recisa Recedit

Hi tautvilis, I have read your post of complaints in the principal topic about secondstrade...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16492895

Because every time they issue a repayment, without any problem, so probably also in this time you have only to wait another reply by secondstrade owner ... and that's it. Also seems really clear that your bet need to be refunded, so I don't think they want scam you.

tautvilis

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