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sr. member
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June 19, 2011, 07:22:40 AM
#29
Some members of Anonymous and Lulzsec are robbing wallets and attacking sites of bitcoin markets.

Do not see how these people can help

All I gotta say is this:

http://pastebin.com/88nGp508

permit me to quote:

"BitCoin donations: 1KPTdMb6p7H3YCwsyFqrEmKGmsHqe1Q3jg"


Do some research before you claim things. That was an attempt to frame Lulzsec that has been widely publicized...
newbie
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June 19, 2011, 06:07:23 AM
#28
BTClottery.info's idea is a tad silly for reasons already stated, but there is an opportunity in that same general direction.

A "police force" is out of the question as they would have no legal authority and would thus any enforcement would be operating outside the law, but what about private detectives? Cyber sleuths that would specialize in tracing bitcoin transactions to a physical identity so that the justice could be handled by the local authorities.

Granted this has some road blocks. It isn't very hard to cover your trail well enough to escape being traced, and because bitcoin knows no barriers, political or geographic, there is a good chance that the criminal may exist outside of your local authorities jurisdiction. Its also not likely many police agencies would take your claim seriously. I think this problem will solve itself with time, but currently i think the best you could hope for would be a civil suit.

I'm not proposing any sort of centralized service, force, or agency, I'm just suggesting that there may be an opportunity for those of you who fancy yourselves computer forensics. Given you will likely only be able to trace a small number of under-informed individuals, perhaps you should charge a small fee upfront, then another larger fee should the person actually be found.

Just a thought. Still a bit silly, but getting better.
legendary
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June 19, 2011, 03:21:46 AM
#27
Some members of Anonymous and Lulzsec are robbing wallets and attacking sites of bitcoin markets.

Do not see how these people can help

All I gotta say is this:

http://pastebin.com/88nGp508

permit me to quote:

"BitCoin donations: 1KPTdMb6p7H3YCwsyFqrEmKGmsHqe1Q3jg"

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June 19, 2011, 01:15:30 AM
#26
Yeah, go and weep back into your several other accounts.
sr. member
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June 18, 2011, 09:14:45 PM
#25
dont ever post again
This is why they shouldn't let people like you with 17 posts come in here, I stated a good idea and with help from members we can start things, it's people like you who are going to halt the spread of Bitcoin

You want a high post count?

Fine.

You should stop posting because you don't seem to think things through. You'll save the forum bandwidth and stop making yourself look like a fool.

For example, thinking this through more, you're suggesting a mercenary group of hackers to try and reclaim stolen bitcoins. This is in my opinion a ridiculous idea, due to the nature of bitcoin, but at least then it would have sounded better.

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June 18, 2011, 09:03:55 PM
#24
Sociology tip #1: When creating a police force, do not suggest staffing it entirely with ADHD ridden anarchist children whose claim to fame is breaking the law for fun.
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June 18, 2011, 06:25:57 PM
#23
sr. member
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June 18, 2011, 06:12:24 PM
#22
And NVidia cards are crap.

Um, no. Almost every supercomputer in the world has an Nvidia GPU or SOC/ASIC and nearly none have Ati GPU's. Check the top 500.
http://www.top500.org/

They are also superior in distributed computing programs like protein folding (F@H) or space research such as SETI, having up to 4-10x more performance than the equivalent ATI/AMD card.

Businesses, governments, hospitals and research labs don't even use ATI cards for heavy calculations or projections; Nvidia has a practical monopoly with CUDA

http://www.gridcomputingplanet.com/news/article.php/3792971/Nvidia-Chips-Power-Grid-Computing-Projects.htm.

For Bitcoin mining, ATI are superior though. I have 40+ ATI cards bought for the sole reason of maintaining mining clusters.
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June 18, 2011, 05:56:57 PM
#21
But you can take over the network in a way that will crush it and make it totally unusable.

Not with any known supercomputer in the world, or even multiple of them.

Even the Tianhe-1 supercomputer would be pretty crappy for forging, at 7168 S1070 tesla gpu's, it comes to around 1.1 terahash per second, less than 1/8th or 12.5% of the total network power of Bitcoin.

And anything faster doesn't even exist at the moment.

Who says that the attacker must have a single computer? He could have the same setup that the legitimate users have: A bunch of crappy Chinese-build PCs.
newbie
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June 18, 2011, 05:52:00 PM
#20
dont ever post again
This is why they shouldn't let people like you with 17 posts come in here, I stated a good idea and with help from members we can start things, it's people like you who are going to halt the spread of Bitcoin

High post count does not imply good ideas, the same way low post count does not imply bad ideas.
Precisely. A**hole
legendary
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Death to enemies!
June 18, 2011, 05:48:03 PM
#19
But you can take over the network in a way that will crush it and make it totally unusable.

Not with any known supercomputer in the world, or even multiple of them.

Even the Tianhe-1 supercomputer would be pretty crappy for forging, at 7168 S1070 tesla gpu's, it comes to around 1.1 terahash per second, less than 1/8th or 12.5% of the total network power of Bitcoin.

And anything faster doesn't even exist at the moment.
This is discussed multiple times in other threads. Attack or compromise pools, buy all ATI cards you can buy, write disruptive Bitcoin client and the network will experience DoS.

And NVidia cards are crap. They are handicaped both in games and bitcoin mining.Nvidia are selling rebadged cards for multiple generations in the same time ATI are making new generations of powerfull and cheap cards. In past decade the opposite was true.
sr. member
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June 18, 2011, 05:42:17 PM
#18
But you can take over the network in a way that will crush it and make it totally unusable.

Not with any known supercomputer in the world, or even multiple of them.

Even the Tianhe-1 supercomputer would be pretty crappy for forging, at 7168 S1070 tesla gpu's, it comes to around 1.1 terahash per second, less than 1/8th or 12.5% of the total network power of Bitcoin.

And anything faster doesn't even exist at the moment.
legendary
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Death to enemies!
June 18, 2011, 05:38:51 PM
#17
Paranoid idiots. Seriously, what's the goal for CIA is to conduct such acts that LulzSec does? There might be CIA or FBI informant (rat) among them, but they act like teenagers having lulz.

The fact that hackers are after bitcoins means they really have value! People want them, people will spend time to get them (even by hacking), so they are gaining even more momentum.

You can steal bitcoins only by hacking users. You cannot take over the network in a way that allows you stealing.

But you can take over the network in a way that will crush it and make it totally unusable.
I already know that. Repeatition is a mother of knowledge. Normal boys knows that too, so they are going after users (allinvain) not after network.
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June 18, 2011, 05:33:07 PM
#16
Paranoid idiots. Seriously, what's the goal for CIA is to conduct such acts that LulzSec does? There might be CIA or FBI informant (rat) among them, but they act like teenagers having lulz.

The fact that hackers are after bitcoins means they really have value! People want them, people will spend time to get them (even by hacking), so they are gaining even more momentum.

You can steal bitcoins only by hacking users. You cannot take over the network in a way that allows you stealing.

But you can take over the network in a way that will crush it and make it totally unusable.
legendary
Activity: 1512
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Death to enemies!
June 18, 2011, 05:26:52 PM
#15
Paranoid idiots. Seriously, what's the goal for CIA is to conduct such acts that LulzSec does? There might be CIA or FBI informant (rat) among them, but they act like teenagers having lulz.

The fact that hackers are after bitcoins means they really have value! People want them, people will spend time to get them (even by hacking), so they are gaining even more momentum.
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June 18, 2011, 05:15:53 PM
#14
Some members of Anonymous and Lulzsec are robbing wallets and attacking sites of bitcoin markets.

Do not see how these people can help
And you are getting this idea where exactly?
Let me guess... CIA?
Seriously guys not blaming Anonymous and Lulzsec for that "theft", you're just ridiculous

Or bring evidences

In my opinion, lulzsec is not a real hacker group but some intelligence agency project. Maybe that that's also the case with the OP? The request is so stupid, it could come from CIA.
legendary
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May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage
June 18, 2011, 04:45:52 PM
#13
Some members of Anonymous and Lulzsec are robbing wallets and attacking sites of bitcoin markets.

Do not see how these people can help
And you are getting this idea where exactly?
Let me guess... CIA?
Seriously guys not blaming Anonymous and Lulzsec for that "theft", you're just ridiculous

Or bring evidences
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
June 18, 2011, 04:41:48 PM
#12
Some members of Anonymous and Lulzsec are robbing wallets and attacking sites of bitcoin markets.

Do not see how these people can help
And you are getting this idea where exactly?
legendary
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Keep it real
June 18, 2011, 10:07:49 AM
#11
dont ever post again
This is why they shouldn't let people like you with 17 posts come in here, I stated a good idea and with help from members we can start things, it's people like you who are going to halt the spread of Bitcoin

High post count does not imply good ideas, the same way low post count does not imply bad ideas.
legendary
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Merit: 1004
June 18, 2011, 10:02:45 AM
#10
Some members of Anonymous and Lulzsec are robbing wallets and attacking sites of bitcoin markets.
Do not see how these people can help

++ exactly

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