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Quote from: jaberwock on November 13, 2015, 11:46:35 PM

Windows 10 has the same privacy issues than all windows versions, most people use it so the hackers will closely look at their security vulnerabilities and Microsoft can install and see everything you do and have if they want to.

Plus Windows 10 is a new OS, so there are plenty of vulnerabilities still to be discovered and people say it is crappy even for Microsoft standards(I never tested myself, though)

It doesn't really add any particular new features aswell. in my honest opinion, the receive by the public has been as bad as vistas launch was. They even said that windows 10 will be the final product in this line and they wont be making any more windows products. They'll just keep upgrading windows 10 into oblivion. Tbh they haven't really added any noticeable features that are game changing since xp. Mostly UI changes into a more modern style. That's just my two bits.

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Windows 10 has the same privacy issues than all windows versions, most people use it so the hackers will closely look at their security vulnerabilities and Microsoft can install and see everything you do and have if they want to.

Plus Windows 10 is a new OS, so there are plenty of vulnerabilities still to be discovered and people say it is crappy even for Microsoft standards(I never tested myself, though)

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Quote from: shorena on November 13, 2015, 04:56:26 PM

You should keep those two to seperate machines. No matter what you study, you will not need a high end machine. Buying a laptop for gaming is a waste of money. Mobile GPUs are very expensive and you have constant heat problems. Get a decent laptop for study/work and keep it clean of distractions. Get a desktop for gaming, its cheaper for the same amount of power.

Well I would probably be studying some kind of engineering, and many of the tools used for that like AutoCAD require some serious CPU and GPU to run smoothly.

And if you suggest that I use the school's computers for that, I prefer to be able to do my work on my own computers too in case I don't have access to other machines that can do the work.

Quote from: ArticMine on November 13, 2015, 06:03:47 PM

I would get a GNU/Linux laptop and run Windows 10 in a Virtualbox VM. It is actually way easier to manage Windows in a VM than on the hardware itself. This puts Windows 10 in a sandbox where it belongs. If a professor insists on you accepting Microsoft's EULA as a condition of a higher education you then have the option of caving in.

Oh. That's a good idea! If I get a laptop that can do hardware virtualization that might work really well!

Quote from: Snorek on November 13, 2015, 10:37:24 PM

It is not so simple anymore. Microsoft added telemetry to older system as well. With windows update we now have in windows Vista, 7 and 8 the same spying tools windows 10 has.
So reverting to older system - unless it is windows XP with its discontinued support and old architecture is not so good idea. The only way is to delete these updates and block telemetry.

Really !?!? That is a problem. I am currently using Windows 7. Guess I need to check the windows updates now and remove the ones that spy Embarrassed

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Quote from: USB-S on November 13, 2015, 02:03:06 PM

in before Microsoft steals millions of wallets worth half a billion dollars. Would not be that bad of a business plan. Big corporations do anything for money nowadays. Just look at VW corp, a bit of a childish move by them don't you think? however Microsoft days would be numbered if that surfaces. For now I would stick with windows 7. Just in case, always have your tinfoil hat ready.

The day that happens - would probably signal the beginning of the end for MS. There is pretty much no chance that would ever happen - it would be committing commercial suicide. There is a difference from being insecure and just so happening to leave holes for the NSA to snoop into and actively making backdoors to steal money from people. While we already know about the former, little is being done - whereas in the latter case you can be sure there would be associated lawsuits and a far larger media presence which would actively hurt MS.

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Quote from: Meuh6879 on November 13, 2015, 11:55:23 AM

buy a Win7 PC ... simple.

http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Professional-Generation-Processor/dp/B015D956UQ/
http://www.amazon.com/Inspiron-Professional-i5-5200U-Processor-Bluetooth/dp/B0157VW72K/

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Satellite-Professional-Processor-Multi-DVD/dp/B00YUZBAX2/
http://www.amazon.com/ThinkPad-E450-i5-5200U-Business-Computer/dp/B00V57VRX6/

http://www.amazon.com/15-6-inch-Business-Professional-i5-5200U-Bluetooth/dp/B016J3TW5K/
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-NX-MG7AA-005-E1-771-6496-17-3-Inch/dp/B00I9HJU2A/
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Notebook-NX-MHFAA-004-E1-572-6660-15-6-Inch/dp/B00KE7YZNW/

other complicate solution : install Ubuntu 64 bits UEFI compliant ... to erase Win10.

I prefer Win7 solution ...

It is not so simple anymore. Microsoft added telemetry to older system as well. With windows update we now have in windows Vista, 7 and 8 the same spying tools windows 10 has.
So reverting to older system - unless it is windows XP with its discontinued support and old architecture is not so good idea. The only way is to delete these updates and block telemetry.

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Quote from: yenxz on November 13, 2015, 09:46:53 PM

what version of that windows 10?is enterprise or professional?

Every windows 10 smells in a bad way.

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Exchanges or most online wallets are the least preferred ways to store your bitcoin. Coinbase does have a multisig vault that is OK. Hardware wallets like Ledger can now be had for less than $50, letting you access your bitcoin using an online wallet but keeping private keys securely offline.

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Quote from: FrostStick on November 13, 2015, 09:25:25 PM

My friend who also uses bitcoins just recently upgraded to windows 10 and he hasn't got a problem with storing bitcoins in his Bitcoin wallet.

If you're concerned about this you can always store your coins in an exchange or an online wallet.

it isn't a problem per say yet. But windows logs your data, which may or may not contain bitcoin addresses. And never store your coins on an exchange, that's a bad tip. MtGox never forget. Online wallets are so so. They are mostly a central institutions who can just pack up their stuff and walk away with your coins. Few of them are legit but you should still be wary and do your research before you use any of them.

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My friend who also uses bitcoins just recently upgraded to windows 10 and he hasn't got a problem with storing bitcoins in his Bitcoin wallet.

If you're concerned about this you can always store your coins in an exchange or an online wallet.

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Quote from: XinXan on November 13, 2015, 05:54:28 PM

Quote from: USB-S on November 13, 2015, 02:03:06 PM

in before Microsoft steals millions of wallets worth half a billion dollars. Would not be that bad of a business plan. Big corporations do anything for money nowadays. Just look at VW corp, a bit of a childish move by them don't you think? however Microsoft days would be numbered if that surfaces. For now I would stick with windows 7. Just in case, always have your tinfoil hat ready.

Of course they are not going to steal bitcoins all of the sudden, although the cia or something similar might want to access if your pc or you are related to shady business or activities on the internet.

I think that CIA was the one who forced their agenda onto Microsoft. I've even heard that facebook is on board. Most people who have used internet are just a button away for them. think about all the sensitive data you have.

I heard that win 10 sends all of your keypresses and clipboard info to their central servers along with other sensitive data just to "improve" their service. I don't know exactly how much data is being sent but it's kind of frightening to think how much power these big corporations have over us.

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I normally just use an online wallet so it doesn't really matter for me. I still have a software wallet and I am using windows 7. I like it as it is and I am not looking to changing seeing as the reviews of it are pretty bad. On windows 7 my Bitcoin wallet is very safe and I recommend you don't change.

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Agreed with second post. Stick with Windows 7 since it is reliable and working already.
Why switch to windows 10? It is the same thing just upgraded visual and means more problems technically in the long run.
It is just Windows 8 but without the widgets turned on by default Cheesy

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Quote from: Pattart on November 13, 2015, 03:40:50 PM

Hi guys, thanks for all of the help.

The problem I have is that I am looking for a new high end laptop for college and all of the ones I have been looking at come with Windows 10. Given that it looks like Windows 10 has all of those potential security risks due to their tracking, I think I will hold off on moving my wallet to it.

I don't want to install Windows 7 or Linux on the laptop since it can be a pain in the ass and I'm not sure how well linux would work in a school environment. Also, linux can't play some games that I want Grin

OmegaStarScream, I will check out that guide. Do you know if it actually prevents everything with privacy tracking in Windows 10 that could affect a Bitcoin wallet?

I would get a GNU/Linux laptop and run Windows 10 in a Virtualbox VM. It is actually way easier to manage Windows in a VM than on the hardware itself. This puts Windows 10 in a sandbox where it belongs. If a professor insists on you accepting Microsoft's EULA as a condition of a higher education you then have the option of caving in.

Microsoft software is provided at very cheap prices or free to post secondary students in order to get them addicted at young age. When I went to university in the late 1970's the tobacco companies were promoting student events in order to get the students addicted. Some things actually do not change with time.

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Quote from: USB-S on November 13, 2015, 02:03:06 PM

in before Microsoft steals millions of wallets worth half a billion dollars. Would not be that bad of a business plan. Big corporations do anything for money nowadays. Just look at VW corp, a bit of a childish move by them don't you think? however Microsoft days would be numbered if that surfaces. For now I would stick with windows 7. Just in case, always have your tinfoil hat ready.

Of course they are not going to steal bitcoins all of the sudden, although the cia or something similar might want to access if your pc or you are related to shady business or activities on the internet.

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Quote from: Pattart on November 13, 2015, 10:01:55 AM

I am looking to upgrade to a new computer with Windows 10 but i have head that Windows 10 has some privacy issues which can be security risks to bitcoin wallets on Windows 10 devices. What exactly are those issues and what risks do they pose to bitcoiners using Windows 10?

Trust nothing and noone when dealing with your bitcoins.
Even tho you should be fine even with win10, because they're not interested in anyone's coins, being a part
of such a privacy violation is not recommended. imho, bitcoin and linux were always a far better option than trusting that massive privacy abusers from MS.

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Quote from: Pattart on November 13, 2015, 03:40:50 PM

Hi guys, thanks for all of the help.

The problem I have is that I am looking for a new high end laptop for college and all of the ones I have been looking at come with Windows 10. Given that it looks like Windows 10 has all of those potential security risks due to their tracking, I think I will hold off on moving my wallet to it.

I don't want to install Windows 7 or Linux on the laptop since it can be a pain in the ass and I'm not sure how well linux would work in a school environment. Also, linux can't play some games that I want Grin

OmegaStarScream, I will check out that guide. Do you know if it actually prevents everything with privacy tracking in Windows 10 that could affect a Bitcoin wallet?

You should keep those two to seperate machines. No matter what you study, you will not need a high end machine. Buying a laptop for gaming is a waste of money. Mobile GPUs are very expensive and you have constant heat problems. Get a decent laptop for study/work and keep it clean of distractions. Get a desktop for gaming, its cheaper for the same amount of power.

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Quote from: ronald98 on November 13, 2015, 03:57:18 PM

If you are a student you will probably be able to get free copies of Windows vista/7/8/10 through Microsoft Dreamspark. Ask your college if it's included in the Dreamspark program and if it will give you a Dreamspark account. If it's included you get most versions of Window for free, but if it's not included you might be able to sign up for a lower level of account directly through dreamspark which gives you most software apart from Windows.

https://www.dreamspark.com/

The only useful thing not provided by Dreamspark is a free copy of Microsoft Office. If offers mos Microsoft software for free to students. Check out the link to find out what you can get.

That's interesting. I don't really need to get free copies of windows though, I have a windows 7 install disk, I just don't want to install windows 7 on a new computer if I don't need to.

Quote from: Decoded on November 13, 2015, 04:07:04 PM

I havent heard of any security vulnerabilities to windows 10, but of course there are. Are there actually any big ones that can affect Bitcoin? Would linux be safer? I switch between Bitcoin-qt and coinbase, so which one would be safer for me currently?

It isn't security vulnerabilities but rather all of the tracking that microsoft does which can potentially reveal sensitive information.

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I havent heard of any security vulnerabilities to windows 10, but of course there are. Are there actually any big ones that can affect Bitcoin? Would linux be safer? I switch between Bitcoin-qt and coinbase, so which one would be safer for me currently?

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Quote from: Pattart on November 13, 2015, 03:40:50 PM

Hi guys, thanks for all of the help.

The problem I have is that I am looking for a new high end laptop for college and all of the ones I have been looking at come with Windows 10. Given that it looks like Windows 10 has all of those potential security risks due to their tracking, I think I will hold off on moving my wallet to it.

I don't want to install Windows 7 or Linux on the laptop since it can be a pain in the ass and I'm not sure how well linux would work in a school environment. Also, linux can't play some games that I want Grin

OmegaStarScream, I will check out that guide. Do you know if it actually prevents everything with privacy tracking in Windows 10 that could affect a Bitcoin wallet?

If you are a student you will probably be able to get free copies of Windows vista/7/8/10 through Microsoft Dreamspark. Ask your college if it's included in the Dreamspark program and if it will give you a Dreamspark account. If it's included you get most versions of Window for free, but if it's not included you might be able to sign up for a lower level of account directly through dreamspark which gives you most software apart from Windows.

https://www.dreamspark.com/

The only useful thing not provided by Dreamspark is a free copy of Microsoft Office. If offers most Microsoft software for free to students. Check out the link to find out what you can get.

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