Topic: See this burst poster here. - page 2. (Read 897 times)

I was in the middle of a television program when you pmed and wanted to finish before reading this thread.

Ok so let's start from the beginning. A few days back I was grading the winz.io campaign of which Poker Player is a participant. I noticed that Poker Player had alot of posts in a short window of time(1-15 minutes. He sent me a pm where I had quoted 5 mins or less, but in reality 1-15 mins is a decent window). I decided to send him a pm


Now, alot of you are probably thinking it's not a big deal his quality is decent. I agree which is why I sent a pm and was nice about it and asked him to be more aware. Should have been the end of it IMO. I was not expecting the pm I got next. Basically he said he would continue as is and if it's an issue I'll just have to kick him.

I've been going back n forth on whether to kick him or keep him in. I didn't really care for the reply or at least the way it was sent, but I don't feel like he was trying to be a dick, that's just how he is. So for now I have let him stay. I sent a warning and if he continues I have to enforce the rules I set for every user.

Now let's talk about why burstposting is a big deal.  Let's say I open a sig campaign with 1 member in it. A burstposter is whom I selected and they make all their posts in 1 day. What happens to that users posts? Basically, after about 2 hours their 20-25 posts they made for the campaign will be buried on page 2,3,4 or whatever page. The advertisement in their signature space will be non existent and the company that paid me to hire that user will have wasted their money. In a perfect campaign I would love to see 3-5 posts per day spread out throughout the day. Maximum exposure. Everyone is in different timezones and this would have you seeing a company ad at all times throughout the week, but most people try to make their quota in 1-3 days for various reasons which I'm not here to discuss currently.

Users in campaigns have been banned for this in the past. Posting simply for monetary gain and spamming the forum. He doesn't exactly fit in the spamming category but 100% in the burstposting category.

I think the following reply sums it up the best


Regardless of how anyone feels, you do submit to follow the rules once you apply to a campaign and are accepted. He knows this and agrees, so this isn't an issue with Poker Player, just something I agree with in general.

Healthy discussion is never a bad thing. Never know how a person's view might change if you never start the conversation.

I have sent a PM to him, and I assume he will come by to comment. I think it's the right thing to do, and I don't think he's made a fool of himself for his opinion on the matter. On the contrary, I believe that the divergence of opinion and this thread have led to a healthy discussion on the matter.

Well, now you have to tell us who that person is so that we can properly administer ridicule.

Irony, double meaning and sarcasm doesn't seem to be your things,  as far as I can see. But partly that helps me to confirm the idea I had: that you don't consider the last 5 posts I wrote before this one, the 5 written yesterday as burst posting, probably because you don't consider them of low quality.

It's simply that I recently had a disagreement with someone I respect about what is burst posting and that person considers that I sometimes border on what would be burst posting because I write at wider intervals than that.

Normally, when I'm fresh and rested, and I've just had a coffee, I usually write 3 or 4 posts in an average interval of 10 minutes, rather than 5 like I did yesterday. If the community does not consider my yesterday's posts as burst posting, it helps me to reaffirm myself in my idea.

Edit: I see that one of yesterday's posts was deleted, the one responding to who has frozen funds on stake.com and is asked for proof of income, probably because the OP had made duplicate threads.

You got me quite confused here at first. 
Ill assume this is a social experiment by Poker Player to see the reaction of all of us to his thread until further explanation is provided.

I personally doubt this is the result of drinking while posting, tbh.

I am aware that forum frowns at post bursting,  I don't think I have a problem with how fast someone was able to produce a post. If the posts  are quality and upto 3 to 4 lines and then related to what is being discussed, I'll rather applaud the person for being a fast typist and a fast reasoner. My problem will be if what is produced is shit.
I also know that there is forum wait time which SatoPrincess quoted above. Will it be right to say that anyone who was not caught by the forum wait time did not post burst?

Poker player is yet to fix the link in OP, I guess he can't find the post burster anymore 

According to OP it was 4 or 5 posts with 5 min intervals, so the way I see it it was: post (5min pause) post. If that's the case this is completely normal.
If the guy is in a campaign the manager might not like it and give him a warning, but as far as forum rules go it's OK.


People understand it in many different ways. Some will tell you that burst posting is x posts in a day, but some will pay attention to the exact time too.
The general rule is: don't go crazy and I'll leave you to interpret what crazy is.

Hmmm I have worked in many campaigns and used to believe burst posting meant making 25 posts in two days just to meet post quota. Campaign managers, at least the ones I have had the privilege to work with, do not condone such actions and may at times remove the user from the campaign. This other form of “post bursting” as I now know it to be is a new rule to me perhaps I have been ignorant of the rules. I will have to read the forum rules again for better understanding.

Link you shared lead to your post history @pokerplayer, many other users have pointed this out, so maybe you were referring to yourself.. Which ever or whatever you mean or meant is up to you, but what I do think about posting bursting is that it is actually post bursting if the posts are spammy and carries no semantic weight, that is meaningless.

There are people who can be gifted to type really fast, and if in 5 minutes, such a person creates 2 posts or 3, that actually has good quality and passes a good message, should we still consider such as post bursting?, I don't think so.

Beginner rankings will be subject to some restrictions, including time interval:

• Time interval between posts
• The number of PMs you can send in a day
• Time interval between reports to the moderator.
• Etc

Sometimes I have to ignore my notification bot to fast responding to posts of other users mentioning me or quoting my posts for reasons of burst post. Although I can still respond to each of those responses at the speed possible for a few minutes from the mention, but I end up not doing it very often. The problem isn't with the forum rules, but maybe the campaign manager doesn't want to see the burst post. I know, when the post quality is well maintained then the time interval between posts is not a big problem for the manager.

I'm not really sure whether it was an experiment or you mistakenly had your profile linked.

In general, I don't think it should be categorized as spam or you should be worried here unless they are spam though the chance is higher. However, posting time interval alone can never be a criteria to judge a post quality in my opinion.
Anyway, this is common here. You can see a lot of people are doing this. Posting 4/5 in less than 30 minutes because they have to cover a few more maybe 

And get a dark mode userscript before you go.

I was going to mention this quote by theymos also, to my understanding the 360 seconds wait time only applies to newbie accounts. I remember being confused when I first joined the forum and tried posting simultaneously, I was warned I couldn’t make another post for a time, all this ended when I reached member rank. As for whether campaign managers should add this technicality that seems to be exploited according to OP to their campaign rules, I don’t know. I think campaign managers should have the independence to manage their campaign and participants as they deem fit.

+1
For some time I was just a listener of the Meta section. Only admits unqualified capacity on a thread full of drama. However, at this point, I am moved to comment on the sidelines of my serious reading. Why didn't the OP think about sleeping? Lol 

After he wakes up, he'll probably be frowning a little bit about the link actually referring to his own post. 

Only one solution:
Thermos should definitely bun him!

That aside, you should get a misleading tag also, the spammer was doing posts in 5 minutes intervals, not "last 4 or 5 posts in about a 5 minute interval"
Also, if you have a beef with the account in question you should post from your main account, not hide behind an alt!  


Yeah right, sometimes when I read the new topics some people make and the initial replies I feel like the whole forum is sponsored by Heineken!

If it doesn't violates the forum rules then there is nothing wrong with that.

If you feel its bursting post with low quality content then don't forget to use the report to moderator button.

Apart from this if the person is in campaign and the manager may have their own terms and conditions which is normally noticed by the manager if there is any violation and still getting paid, if it doesn't get noticed bt manager then you can use PM.

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But the person you mentioned is actually w(y)ou?

Maybe, usually depends on the manager and also on the quality post they write. But if it refers to the rules, then I think it's okay.

We have a post time limit per rank level, here's the formula based on what theymos say:


Outside the context of a signature campaign, I think that burst posts can be determined by their quality, not how long the time interval is for each post. Any user who has activity points above 100 will be able to post between 4 second intervals, so of course if they post at 5 minute intervals or less than 10 minutes per post it's not against the rules and is allowed in my opinion. But if they are in the campaign then I think the manager will be stricter about the intervals.

I would rather see your post quality and if you are on-topic. Many people are capable of writing extremely fast, and they can write at the speed of their thinking. JJG, Franky1 could be the example. I don't see it as a problem if people can write healthy posts within a few minutes.

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I don't think the Poker player linked his post history by mistake. He wants to see what the community feels about this posting habit. Sometimes it happens to me as well. I read the whole day and don't find anything to post. But, Sometimes, it also happens that I just made a post and saw another post where I am interested in joining the discussion. My campaign allows me to post five posts in a day. But, If it's worth joining the debate, I won't mind joining. 

@Poker Player
Don't drink and post, it's dangerous.

I have never given much thought to post bursting. But if the content of the posts are OK and it isn't spam except the posts coming in quick succession one after the other, I personally wouldn't mind it.

I did think of something though. Imagine you were reading a few threads or posts and then you had to leave or go to work before you can come up with a decent reply. During the time you are gone, you might write a draft of what you want to say or write it on your work computer and save the content somewhere. Later when you get home where you are safe to access Bitcointalk, you come back to your attachments or drafts, check that you aren't repeating what others have already said, and you post it in the appropriate threads. Since the posts were already written in advance, you can post all of them relatively quickly, and they will look like burst posting. But that doesn't necessarily mean they are shit posts and should be deleted.

OP actually made a mistake in copying the intended profile for his own but what i see regarding post bursting is that if the amount of oost made isn't beyond four or five post within a short time frame and yet carry a semantic meaning with quality contents, i will admit such isn't a post bursting but any other way round aside this could be termed so, now it also depends onnthe user if in campaign or not, here the campaign managers are required to thorough go through the post of their participants before accreditation pay payout, I've seen some users being reported for editing post bursting after they would have posted an empty replies just to fulfill payment required post for a campaign, all these needed to be carefully observed by campaign managers, also we have different typing skill, accuracy and speed being different from each other, this does not equally means post bursting in somecases whereby the user is a fast typists.