Seed Backup Solutions, compared feature by feature - page 2.

thebitcoinhole

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on October 03, 2023, 03:31:26 AM

Where available, it would be very worthwhile adding links to Jameson Lopp's stress tests for each device he has tested: https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/

I would also be very cautious with your "water-proof" and "fire-proof" claims. All manufacturers claim these things, but they are often not true. For example, the Billfodl and Keystone which you have listed as fire-proof, are no such thing, with fire exposure resulting in catastrophic data loss:
https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/reviews/billfodl/
https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/reviews/keystone-tablet-plus/

Good feedback, thanks. Added Jameson Lopp's stress tests when available to the table.

yhiaali3

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For me, I do not see a problem with the price if there is a good amount of Bitcoin to protect. More costs can be incurred in order to obtain strong protection.

But I see the problem in that these solid metal objects are difficult to hide and are eye-catching. If you write the seed on a piece of good-quality paper, it can be hidden anywhere in the house among your personal belongings without attracting attention.

As for these metal panels, it will be difficult to hide them at home in a safe way that does not attract attention.

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The site loads slowly on Tor. I don’t know if the problem is on my end or if you need to check the service.
Jlopp has provided useful recommendations, so you should try the same tools and conduct similar tests with scenarios such as fires, earthquakes, and floods and to what extent these tools are affected by these conditions.
Experiments could include immersing it in water for several hours, throwing heavy objects on it, and exposing it to fire continuously for several hours as a test for fires and earthquakes.

I also did not find any talk about another non-metallic method, such as those using water- or shock-resistant papers.

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Quote from: Beerwizzard on October 02, 2023, 06:12:40 PM

The easiest and maybe even safest way to make a backup is to keep it somewhere online. Just hide it into a crypto container before doing anything.

If you keep your seed phrase online, you are giving it less security because online is not secure. You have your wallet to be an offline wallet or a hardware wallet and you keep the see phrase online, what is the point that the wallet is offline. The best you can do at least is to backup your seed phrase offline. Or probably you meant offline.

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Where available, it would be very worthwhile adding links to Jameson Lopp's stress tests for each device he has tested: https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/

I would also be very cautious with your "water-proof" and "fire-proof" claims. All manufacturers claim these things, but they are often not true. For example, the Billfodl and Keystone which you have listed as fire-proof, are no such thing, with fire exposure resulting in catastrophic data loss:
https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/reviews/billfodl/
https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/reviews/keystone-tablet-plus/

Beerwizzard

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To be honest, I find it a quite useless thing. If you can't keep your seed safe then you gonna lose the physical backup as well. Also, having such device gives a signal to criminals that you can be an easy target so you still gonna have to hide it from everyone.

The easiest and maybe even safest way to make a backup is to keep it somewhere online. Just hide it into a crypto container before doing anything.

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Good for people who are Hodlers these are waterproof and fireproof quite expensive for average holders for a price of $190 but they do have a market for this these are people who are planning to bequeath their Bitcoin to their loved ones who will they leave their Bitcoin as an inheritance.

One particular item that's interesting to me is this Bitcoin capsule

Cryptosteel Capsule Solo

I'm sure there is a market for these items they should make it available worldwide.

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They are too expensive for me. I just like the normal way, noiseless and unnoticeable way which is a pen or pencil on a paper that is resistant to fading. This has been the way I backup my seed phrase.

A better way is to get a glue and thick nylon that can be used for lamination and carefully laminate the paper. But this is getting noisy for me.

I am a small holder. This metal backup will be good for whales.

thebitcoinhole

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thebitcoinhole.com launched a new section on our website: "Seed Backup". We compare different seed phrase metal backup solutions, feature by feature. You can filter, sort and compare.
We have plans to add more solutions, this is just the start.

https://thebitcoinhole.com/seed-backup

We also created an open source Github repo with all the seed backup solutions data, so anyone can help to fix the data or suggest new additions

https://github.com/thebitcoinhole/seed-backup

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