Topic: Seeking solutions to a 12 year old Electrum wallet mystery - page 2. (Read 427 times)
It checks-out since the old version had both client and server which can use a modified bitcoin node to connect to.
Right on, man! Yeah it was a crazy time in the bitcoin world for sure. Went from 'hey, let's do this crazy thing with computers for a couple years and get this thing that could be considered theoretical currency!' to 'hey, now this is REAL currency..? Now how do I store it?!'
I was working with the Bitcoin core and Armory mostly at that crucial time. Then Electrum really streamlined things. When I saw it could run offline and work off the same blockchain as Core, I did all kinds of silly things. Electrum even provided a QR code that I tried to save as an AUTO CAD file. It really was like the wild West of cryptocurrency.
There are plenty of people that helped me before and others that inquired as to my progress. -snip-
Unfortunately, it's because of the premise that it's actually a BIP39 mnemonic based from the phrase "I (you) created a BIP39 mnemonic".That's despite the fact that BIP39 was created in 2013.
But here, you mentioned that Electrum generated it.
Now one of the goals is to identify the right version of Electrum that I used during that time in Jan 2012 but in all the years I've been at this, I've not seen one clear answer. Thank you for giving me confirmation on some things and helping me theory craft some plausible suppositions of what might have been and might be.
So, here are the facts - In late 2011 to January 2012 I was running an offline version of Electrum using a thumbdrive with the blockchain on it. (Yeah, back then the blockchain was that small!)
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I know I have something, just gotta find the right way to get at it.
It checks-out since the old version had both client and server which can use a modified bitcoin node to connect to.-snip-
I know I have something, just gotta find the right way to get at it.
There are plenty of people that helped me before and others that inquired as to my progress. -snip-
Unfortunately, it's because of the premise that it's actually a BIP39 mnemonic based from the phrase "I (you) created a BIP39 mnemonic".That's despite the fact that BIP39 was created in 2013.
But here, you mentioned that Electrum generated it.
Slow down there, Lord Yahoo. First of all, this is not the warm welcoming back I was expecting.
Second, I suppose you want me to consolidate all my posts into one? Is there a shortage of virtual territory here?
Most importantly when you say Electrum didn't use wallet.dat, then how did I generate the mnemonic? Or the xpub? And I can clearly read that the current mnemonic is from the BIP39 list and I do have memory of switching from the old list to the new one. There are words from both list that are very distinctive and I wouldn't spin my wheels on this YEARS later if i didn't have an idea of what I did and did not do.
There are plenty of people that helped me before and others that inquired as to my progress. Since you're the antithesis of these people, no more bleating your useless rhetoric in my painfully redundant thread and don't come back unless you got a better attitude. Possibly take a lesson from some of the other contributors to maybe share something that actually helps.
Second, I suppose you want me to consolidate all my posts into one? Is there a shortage of virtual territory here?
Most importantly when you say Electrum didn't use wallet.dat, then how did I generate the mnemonic? Or the xpub? And I can clearly read that the current mnemonic is from the BIP39 list and I do have memory of switching from the old list to the new one. There are words from both list that are very distinctive and I wouldn't spin my wheels on this YEARS later if i didn't have an idea of what I did and did not do.
There are plenty of people that helped me before and others that inquired as to my progress. Since you're the antithesis of these people, no more bleating your useless rhetoric in my painfully redundant thread and don't come back unless you got a better attitude. Possibly take a lesson from some of the other contributors to maybe share something that actually helps.
So, here are the facts - In late 2011 to January 2012 I was running an offline version of Electrum using a thumbdrive with the blockchain on it. (Yeah, back then the blockchain was that small!)
When I ran the wallet.dat data through it, Electrum generated a 12 word seed that uses the BIP 39 list. I also derived an xpub and verified funds. The xpub is on a disk as a string of text...somewhere.
You have already created two topics, there is no need to create a new topic.
wallet.dat is not used in Electrum Wallet.
In 2011 and 2012, Electrum did not use BIP39 because it was agreed upon as a standard of generating mnemonic sentences in 2013. Before that date, Electrum was using mnemonic codes from a 1626 word dictionary, so you need to modify the BTCrecover to the words dictionary and not the BIP39 word list.
The new Electrum client uses mnemonic codes to represent random wallet seeds.
A seed is encoded with 12 words from a 1626 words dictionary.
If you lose your wallet, these 12 words are the only thing you need in order to recover it.
A seed is encoded with 12 words from a 1626 words dictionary.
If you lose your wallet, these 12 words are the only thing you need in order to recover it.
If you do not get positive results, contact a team of experts Bitcoin Wallet Recovery Services
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-wallet-recovery-services-for-forgotten-wallet-password-240779
Hello to all old timers and newcomers. First and foremost I want to thank the ones that helped me so much years back. I wouldn't still be on this path if it wasn't for all your insights and support.
Here are the links to previous runs I've had trying to determine what I got and how to get it back.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-help-with-bitcoin-seed-phrase-recovery-using-3rditeration-btcrecover-5325117
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/looking-for-a-working-configuration-for-a-btcrecover-seedlist-token-file-5326228
So, here are the facts - In late 2011 to January 2012 I was running an offline version of Electrum using a thumbdrive with the blockchain on it. (Yeah, back then the blockchain was that small!)
When I ran the wallet.dat data through it, Electrum generated a 12 word seed that uses the BIP 39 list. I also derived an xpub and verified funds. The xpub is on a disk as a string of text...somewhere.
In 2012 I confirmed the mnemonic phrase worked and could access them at least through Electrum as it would at the very least give me access to the keys.
Fast forward to now. I have been trying to get BTCrecover to work for me but it has been quite challenging over the years. I had to give up after the machine I was using just didnt have the "Guramba" to parse the data and kept crashing. So now I have a beast of a PC to run BTCrecover in Linux.
I am still tinkering with the seedtoken file to make it work and to pare down the possibilities. I am also trying to figure out the derivation path as this was Electrum and I got no clue which version my January 2012 build was.
I've gotten many problems with Ubuntu lately. I just doesn't want to update correctly. So I've resorted to using POP OS and it delivers where Ubuntu 22.04 fails. I am however still having trouble getting GPU acceleration and pyopencl to work correctly. Here is a pic of what I am currently running.
https://imgur.com/3hwjYs7
I know I have something, just gotta find the right way to get at it.
Here are the links to previous runs I've had trying to determine what I got and how to get it back.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-help-with-bitcoin-seed-phrase-recovery-using-3rditeration-btcrecover-5325117
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/looking-for-a-working-configuration-for-a-btcrecover-seedlist-token-file-5326228
So, here are the facts - In late 2011 to January 2012 I was running an offline version of Electrum using a thumbdrive with the blockchain on it. (Yeah, back then the blockchain was that small!)
When I ran the wallet.dat data through it, Electrum generated a 12 word seed that uses the BIP 39 list. I also derived an xpub and verified funds. The xpub is on a disk as a string of text...somewhere.
In 2012 I confirmed the mnemonic phrase worked and could access them at least through Electrum as it would at the very least give me access to the keys.
Fast forward to now. I have been trying to get BTCrecover to work for me but it has been quite challenging over the years. I had to give up after the machine I was using just didnt have the "Guramba" to parse the data and kept crashing. So now I have a beast of a PC to run BTCrecover in Linux.
I am still tinkering with the seedtoken file to make it work and to pare down the possibilities. I am also trying to figure out the derivation path as this was Electrum and I got no clue which version my January 2012 build was.
I've gotten many problems with Ubuntu lately. I just doesn't want to update correctly. So I've resorted to using POP OS and it delivers where Ubuntu 22.04 fails. I am however still having trouble getting GPU acceleration and pyopencl to work correctly. Here is a pic of what I am currently running.
https://imgur.com/3hwjYs7
I know I have something, just gotta find the right way to get at it.
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