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Topic: Seems like China is dominating the market again with 71% of the volume? (Read 2542 times)

newbie
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Everybody knows the trading volume is "Fake" despite the fact that the CEO of Huobi claimed that the rumour is not true!!! Prove it's not fake then, anybody can deny the truth!
hero member
Activity: 588
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china inflated their currency by 20% just recently...

Most currencies have close to that level of inflation too by the way.
And i'm not talking about the official inflation rates TV reports, but the real life one.
you mean the inflation felt by people... official inflation is calculated with a basket of goods which have no real relevance and or nearly no price changes except maybe gasoline and heating oil...
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 257
No need to doubt because many Chinese like to gamble. Wonder which casino sees the most revenue? Not Las Vegas anymore, but Macao, with flocks of Chinese.

There is no such thing. And bitcoin is not gambling, not even similar, from a speculation point of view it is like buying land and wait to see what happens. Other than that it is just a pseudo currency.

I see peoiple is in denial, the volume is fake. Evidence is strong.
full member
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China has weird currency. It is control by government in a weird way, I'm not sure if it still like it was when i was reading article in Scientific American about it. In general they currency is controlled in such way prices stay same and we all know it is artificial as hell. Post-soviet countries had same problem with currency controlling so hard to pretend there are no inflation, even though there always is.

On other hand I hear all the time China move closer to free market, moving from Marx to Confucian  way of doing business. Maybe there were any changes but i still guess any other currency, especially one you can use all over the world and is not accepted as official currency, so smaller control from government, might be very nice for them.

The way they control money isn't all that different from the way the Fed controls our money.  Roll Eyes

Money gets printed whenever they think they should...
sr. member
Activity: 910
Merit: 302
china inflated their currency by 20% just recently...

Most currencies have close to that level of inflation too by the way.
And i'm not talking about the official inflation rates TV reports, but the real life one.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
china inflated their currency by 20% just recently...
legendary
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Merit: 1008
According to
http://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=24h

China has 71% of the volume for the last 24 hours

huobi is responsible for 67% and btcchina for 4%

Well huobi volume of 327,309 BTC for the last 24 hours seems way too big to be trusted?

What's the dhttp://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/p2ptradex-revisted/eal this time?

The deal is you are failing to understand bitcoin doesn't care about nationality.  Do we talk about how Japan used to dominate bitcoin trade?  No.  Huobi has low fees and is open to anyone on the internet.  Don't be surprised if they have large volume. 
member
Activity: 112
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Cryptocurrencies Exchange
China has weird currency. It is control by government in a weird way, I'm not sure if it still like it was when i was reading article in Scientific American about it. In general they currency is controlled in such way prices stay same and we all know it is artificial as hell. Post-soviet countries had same problem with currency controlling so hard to pretend there are no inflation, even though there always is.

On other hand I hear all the time China move closer to free market, moving from Marx to Confucian  way of doing business. Maybe there were any changes but i still guess any other currency, especially one you can use all over the world and is not accepted as official currency, so smaller control from government, might be very nice for them.
newbie
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No need to doubt because many Chinese like to gamble. Wonder which casino sees the most revenue? Not Las Vegas anymore, but Macao, with flocks of Chinese.
sr. member
Activity: 910
Merit: 302
yes that's true, but still doesn't make the comparison fair


however, China is the second biggest economy
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 257
China has biggest population so kinda makes sense?

No, does not make sense. Their economy is very small compared to i.e. the USA.

GDP per capta of USA is USD$51,704 in 2012. Total of $16,244,600 ( trillions ).

European Union is USD$32,999 for the same year. Total of $16.584,000 .
 
China is only USD$9,055. Total of $8,358,400.


Considering also cultural matters, i just don't belive the chinese volume is real.


GDP per capita might be smaller but it's still the second biggest economy
Also you are comparing country to the whole European Union.

A country that has a population bigger than the whole European union.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1131
There are now 1 020 000 millionaires in China  Wink
Still does not make any sense.
Number of millionaires by country
1     United States            5,231,000
2     Japan                    2,105,000
3     Germany            1,326,000
4     China                    1,280,000
5     United Kingdom    675,000
6     France                    555,000
7     Canada               422,000
8     Switzerland            297,000
9     Australia               275,000
10     Italy                    259,000
11     India                  251,000
Regarding these stats :
Number of French millionaires is going to zero. With the current government, 75% of what you earn over 1 million revenue per year is taken by the state.
French millionaire are exiling to UK and Switzerland. There are 400K French just in London.
Since the official position of UK regarding tax of Bitcoin, a lot of French Bitcoinners are thinking about moving to UK.


Concerning China, the volume could be real because exchanges are exempt from fees. It is mostly bots that are trading but a volume is a volume, deal with it.

sr. member
Activity: 910
Merit: 302
China has biggest population so kinda makes sense?

No, does not make sense. Their economy is very small compared to i.e. the USA.

GDP per capta of USA is USD$51,704 in 2012. Total of $16,244,600 ( trillions ).

European Union is USD$32,999 for the same year. Total of $16.584,000 .
 
China is only USD$9,055. Total of $8,358,400.


Considering also cultural matters, i just don't belive the chinese volume is real.


GDP per capita might be smaller but it's still the second biggest economy
Also you are comparing country to the whole European Union.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 257
An intresting thread regarding this matter:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hypothesis-btcchina-is-completely-fake-with-evidence-338849

I have no doubt that the volume is absolutely fake.
hero member
Activity: 601
Merit: 500
Vote 4fryn :)
According to
http://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=24h

China has 71% of the volume for the last 24 hours

huobi is responsible for 67% and btcchina for 4%

Well huobi volume of 327,309 BTC for the last 24 hours seems way too big to be trusted?

What's the deal this time?

As per usual China is driving the market value up and also making money from cross trading!
hero member
Activity: 1106
Merit: 500
Life is short, practice empathy in your life
Huobi's volume is misleading.

Partially it is caused by low fees, but mainly it is due to fake volume manipulation.

Just look huobi's webstats, they are ridiculously low. I absolutely wouldn't be surprised if their true volume was lower than BTCChina.

member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Good'ol china. Just keep riding those waves  Cool
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 257
There are now 1 020 000 millionaires in China  Wink


Still does not make any sense.

Number of millionaires by country

1     United States            5,231,000
2     Japan                    2,105,000
3     Germany            1,326,000
4     China                    1,280,000
5     United Kingdom    675,000
6     France                    555,000
7     Canada               422,000
8     Switzerland            297,000
9     Australia               275,000
10     Italy                    259,000
11     India                  251,000
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
There are now 1 020 000 millionaires in China  Wink

618M people have access to internet , 48.5%.
Chinese gov undervalued the yuan for better exportation and use dumping in Africa for take resources.

But yes officially , the Gdp is lowest than US.

And an important thing , Chinese love gambling . Gambling in Macau is bigger than Las Vegas
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 257
China has biggest population so kinda makes sense?

No, does not make sense. Their economy is very small compared to i.e. the USA.

GDP per capta of USA is USD$51,704 in 2012. Total of $16,244,600 ( trillions ).

European Union is USD$32,999 for the same year. Total of $16.584,000 .
 
China is only USD$9,055. Total of $8,358,400.


Considering also cultural matters, i just don't belive the chinese volume is real.
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