Segregated Witness vs Bitcoin Unlimited vs Do Nothing - page 4.

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Quote from: ImHash on April 19, 2017, 07:39:47 AM

As it happened I have mixed the 75% of last 1000 blocks mined with 75% hash power needed to activate SW, either way if BU only needs 51% or even less then what are they waiting for? are they really waiting for 95% consensus? but that will never happen and they know it.

classic, xt, bcoin, bitcoinec, bu and other diverse nodes do not want to "take over" (only blockstream(core) want a take over)
blockstream have offered and demanded a few times for anything not core to split away, but that was not taken up because the community does not want a civil war but a real consensus choice of something the whole community can unite around.

hence no deadline, hence to threats, hence no hardware bombs.

blockstream are the ones that bypassed node consensus.
blockstream are the ones that gave only pools the vote.

but blockstream are not getting the pool vote they were hoping for. so now blockstream are looking for blaming everyone. rather than listening to everyone and programming something that the community want..

all of you blockstreamists are forgetting one small thing.

blockstream can code things differently to a way the whole community would be happy.
but no.. its a blockstream short cut or kill every opposer in the community and blame the opposers

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From what I see SegWit is gaining more and more %. Just look at the numbers for the last 24h:

And imho the numbers are not even 100% "correct" because there are pools (like Slush) which are signaling sometimes SegWit, sometimes BU, so while now they "split" their hashrate (I am not sure how are they calculated), they will just join the winning side at the end.

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As it happened I have mixed the 75% of last 1000 blocks mined with 75% hash power needed to activate SW, either way if BU only needs 51% or even less then what are they waiting for? are they really waiting for 95% consensus? but that will never happen and they know it.

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Quote from: gentlemand on April 19, 2017, 06:54:34 AM

Now if Bitcoin Unlimited were feeling extremely psyops ish they could sneak release a new version of their code named Do Nothing. There might be enough stupid miners to run it.

There is a certain way of knowing whether 'Do Nothing' is actually the BU client in disguise (in your scenario). If it crashes the whole network of nodes, then it is BU certificated technology. Roll Eyes

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Now if Bitcoin Unlimited were feeling extremely psyops ish they could sneak release a new version of their code named Do Nothing. There might be enough stupid miners to run it.

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Quote from: Xester on April 19, 2017, 06:50:25 AM

Looking at the chart there are 38% out of the total population of miners have chosen to side with Bitcoin Unlimited + classic.

This is about pool hashrate not number of miners. You can't know for example whether Antpool is using all their own devices at their own pool, or there are other miners mining on it. Note: Obviously the latter is more likely, but hopefully you get the point.

Quote from: Xester on April 19, 2017, 06:50:25 AM

There will be only a decision I guess if the 26% will vote and we can finally see what is the decision of the majority.

As BU is a hard fork, pool majority vote is useless. The miners do not decide what Bitcoin is or isn't. At best, they will create the BTU altcoin.

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Quote from: Lauda on April 19, 2017, 06:40:00 AM

It should probably be noted that Jihan controls Antpool, ViaBTC and BTC.TOP. This is quite obvious, yet some want to keep living in denial. It's interesting that ViaBTC has lost a fair deal of hashrate % over this time (it was >6% and frequently hit >10% due to variance). The increase in hashrate at BTC.TOP is also highly suspicious. I wonder why HaoBTC and 1Hash haven't made up their minds yet.

BU needing 51% to active it probably very misleading. BU has no activation threshold, and 51% hashrate symbolizes a classic hashrate attack on the network. If BU wanted to split bilaterally, they could do it right now at any hashrate. The issue with that is that nobody actually wants BU. The economy, users and development community are all in favor of SegWit and Core (besides the obvious minority consisting of Ver, Jihan, charlatans like Peter R, et. al., and their companies).

Looking at the chart there are 38% out of the total population of miners have chosen to side with Bitcoin Unlimited + classic. But this does not mean that BU has the lead and will overcome the votation since there are 26% who have not decided. Thus this still mean that BU and segwit are in tie. There will be only a decision I guess if the 26% will vote and we can finally see what is the decision of the majority.

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It should probably be noted that Jihan controls Antpool, ViaBTC and BTC.TOP. This is quite obvious, yet some want to keep living in denial. It's interesting that ViaBTC has lost a fair deal of hashrate % over this time (it was >6% and frequently hit >10% due to variance). The increase in hashrate at BTC.TOP is also highly suspicious. I wonder why HaoBTC and 1Hash haven't made up their minds yet.

BU needing 51% to active it probably very misleading. BU has no activation threshold, and 51% hashrate symbolizes a classic hashrate attack on the network. If BU wanted to split bilaterally, they could do it right now at any hashrate. The issue with that is that nobody actually wants BU. The economy, users and development community are all in favor of SegWit and Core (besides the obvious minority consisting of Ver, Jihan, charlatans like Peter R, et. al., and their companies).

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