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hero member
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November 19, 2016, 07:09:40 PM
#10
Yes, of course it is good for Bitcoin. Every technological improvement is a good thing for Bitcoin.
SegWit is an AltCoin.  It is not Bitcoin. 

Not only that, it is a fucking stupid alt coin that is being pursued so BlockStream can enable their proprietary side network.  It is a scam folks.  Don't buy it. 
legendary
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November 19, 2016, 06:19:13 PM
#9
I don't know if it's related to Segwit, but I have found the network much faster lately. Way better than it was a few weeks ago when it was agonizing.

its called the placebo effect wait a year and come back and see the difference

so far segwits features are not active. it requires users to download another version after activation before anything is noticable
sr. member
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Decentralised Amazon & ICO Hub
November 19, 2016, 05:03:38 PM
#8
Yes, of course it is good for Bitcoin. Every technological improvement is a good thing for Bitcoin.
legendary
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#Free market
November 19, 2016, 04:34:11 PM
#7
If at each retarget there will be 101 not-segwit blocks .. then SW will not pass to the nexts status, which is called locked.
legendary
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November 19, 2016, 03:45:43 PM
#6
so far most of them decided to support it.

most?

4 days: 3.6%
https://blockchain.info/charts/bip-9-segwit

dont expect activation by christmas
definitely dont expect anything to change a minute after activation.

you will need to download yet another implementation to actually make a segwit transaction using segwit compatible HD seed keypairs
meaning users, merchants and pools will yet again need to test the implementation and move funds around.




legendary
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★Nitrogensports.eu★
November 19, 2016, 02:05:47 PM
#5


The technical advantages of SegWit

SegWit is a fucking scam.  It is not Bitcoin.  It is some bullshit to help Blockstream pull off their altcoin 'sidechain' crap.  Fuck Blockstream. 
At this point I don't think we have something better in store for us. SegWit might not be ideal solution but no one proposed anything better so far.
Think of SegWit as lesser evil. Miners will decide if they want to switch to SegWit or not - so far most of them decided to support it.
hero member
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November 19, 2016, 01:48:57 PM
#4


The technical advantages of SegWit

SegWit is a fucking scam.  It is not Bitcoin.  It is some bullshit to help Blockstream pull off their altcoin 'sidechain' crap.  Fuck Blockstream. 
newbie
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November 19, 2016, 12:30:51 PM
#3
I sure hope it stays
legendary
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November 19, 2016, 10:25:39 AM
#2
segwit is the bait to introduce dual-managed transactions (LN) removing peer-to-peer(no middlemen) and replacing it with peer-custodian (hub middlemen)

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2016-November/000648.html

as for cheap transactions. read the open office spreadsheet linked in the "results" part of the link above
and then click on the "marketing conditions", "prepaid" both suggesting 0.006 btc pre-pay LN fee

if you check the other tabs. it only becomes a cheap fee if you are using it every second. however using it just once a day.. not cheap

to use LN users need to PREPAY 0.006btc which based on a 10day locktime
and it actually costs you more to not be spending. EG dont expect to get 0.0059xxxx back if you only do a couple transactions in those 10 days.

$4+(0.006) 'pre-pay' is a barrier of entry.
would you pay $4 every 10 days just to use a service?? which then charges you for not using it, and only works out beneficial if you are doing lots of transactions a day.

if yes then if you want to do grocery shopping. prepare yourself for scanning one item at the cashiers desk and paying for that item, scanning another and pay, scan another and pay just to get the best deal for the end transaction cost when the 10 days are up.

oh and if you want to close the channel early hoping to avoid paying a time compensation. forget it. there is a penalty for closing the channel early too. also by not signing in a convenient time (measured in seconds) you are penalised aswell.

seems LN have not thought about using code to mitigate risks of DDoS, errors, blackmail. but instead used greed of economics to find the penalty/prize values of avoiding DDoS, errors, blackmail.

LN is more about making the hubs money by users entering into a dual-signed address where the user then has less independent power of their own funds, while costing the user for not using LN efficiently.

dont think LN is going to be the saviour of cheap transactions.. its a bait and switch.. its just about faster method of 'trust' that the funds will be paid, while continuing to push the fee war on to make bitcoin have less utility due to cost of use.

if only these devs can stop playing the economics game of bankers and instead use actual code to mitigate risks, instead of fee's
seems devs think fee's are the answer to security. and forget that code can do the job much better
legendary
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November 19, 2016, 09:40:38 AM
#1
On November 16, the exchange and the large pool Bitcoin mining BTCC COO, Samson Mow revealed that the institution Distincts Witness (SegWit) was ready. BTCC officially began SegWit run client on November 17, to support the Bitcoin core team development solution scaled on the channel.
SegWit is great for Bitcoin. It brings more transaction throughput, resolve fabricability, defragments the UTXO kit makes hardware portfolios safer and more importantly, it makes lightning that will bring direct transactions of low cost Bitcoin to the world. BTCC team have worked hard to make our SegWit pool and mining services ready.

The technical advantages of SegWit

Mow and the rest of the BTCC team recognize the technical benefits and benefits SegWit brings to the network. It solves the feasibility transaction, increases block capacity, makes lightning and improves the security of hardware portfolios.
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