Self moderated threads are harmful - Part 2 - page 2.

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Quote from: Quickseller on March 06, 2015, 11:45:36 AM

Quote from: Wardrick on March 06, 2015, 11:40:22 AM

Instead of asking to remove moderated threads you should be asking to have PocketRocketsCasino warned or temperorily banned. Moderated threads aren't going to be removed, but constantly deleting replies in self moderated threads in places such as the marketplace or gambling is highly suspicious behavior.

deleating posts in a self moderated thread is not against any forum rule however it is scammy behavior. When it happens as often as it does with PRC, it is a good sign that they are probably scamming so negative trust should be appropriate but no action by a moderator on behalf of the forum would be appropriate.

Yes, scams aren't moderated. Prior to leaving a negative feedback, I would suggest you to sum up the details and open a scam accusation thread and link that thread in 'negative feedback'. It will give more weight to it because if there is no reference, PocketRocketCasinos can tell they are jealous or they didn't like me etc...

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Quote from: Wardrick on March 06, 2015, 11:40:22 AM

Instead of asking to remove moderated threads you should be asking to have PocketRocketsCasino warned or temperorily banned. Moderated threads aren't going to be removed, but constantly deleting replies in self moderated threads in places such as the marketplace or gambling is highly suspicious behavior.

deleating posts in a self moderated thread is not against any forum rule however it is scammy behavior. When it happens as often as it does with PRC, it is a good sign that they are probably scamming so negative trust should be appropriate but no action by a moderator on behalf of the forum would be appropriate.

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Instead of asking to remove moderated threads you should be asking to have PocketRocketsCasino warned or temperorily banned. Moderated threads aren't going to be removed, but constantly deleting replies in self moderated threads in places such as the marketplace or gambling is highly suspicious behavior.

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You can create your own thread to respond for censor-free discussion. Just quote the messages you want to reply to and link to the thread in your op. This is your best option.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on March 06, 2015, 08:32:40 AM

Quote from: finnile on March 06, 2015, 08:03:39 AM

ALso, just after that ,I get this message from him:

Stop posting in my thread.
I owe you nothing because a) you found no bug b) you didn't report properly what it was you thought you found.
I already reported your group before and that's why one of them got banned for a week.
They didn't ban you because you had stopped for a bit but said I should report you next time.
If you post again after this next delete I will report you again.

Is it also right for him to threaten me with this ? And mods agreeing to ban him(from what he says) , if what I posted is true
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9592998

As annoying as it may be if someone self-moderates a thread you don't have to post in it and if you don't like their actions you are free to create your own thread in response. You can be banned from repeatedly posting in a self-modded thread when you have been asked not to so be careful with that.

Thanks for that .I haven't officially been warned by any of the staff here. It was just him warning me directly.
However as for the moderation allowed, not everyone reads the other threads. And if someone is actually trolling on the selfmoderated thread, then they would automatically be banned by the staff after 1 warning. So whats the point of allowing the self moderated thread ?

The op also keeps lying about a lot of things, and says he auto deletes the posts
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10511650

So how am I supposed to reply to that ? I can't possibly just quote every reply of his and reply back in the self moderated thread.

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Quote from: finnile on March 06, 2015, 08:03:39 AM

ALso, just after that ,I get this message from him:

Stop posting in my thread.
I owe you nothing because a) you found no bug b) you didn't report properly what it was you thought you found.
I already reported your group before and that's why one of them got banned for a week.
They didn't ban you because you had stopped for a bit but said I should report you next time.
If you post again after this next delete I will report you again.

Is it also right for him to threaten me with this ? And mods agreeing to ban him(from what he says) , if what I posted is true
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9592998

As annoying as it may be if someone self-moderates a thread you don't have to post in it and if you don't like their actions you are free to create your own thread in response. You can be banned from repeatedly posting in a self-modded thread when you have been asked not to so be careful with that.

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Self-moderated threads are a great litmus tests for scammers and hypocrites, much like how Bitcoin itself tests those who truly believe in real free markets giving people that kind of power also shows up who actually believes in freedom of speech and who doesn't. If you've got a real problem with a guy who's abusing the self-moderation then I recommend making another thread to discuss him, we had a recent drama with Woodcollector I'm sure you've seen where he was just making posts constantly and locking them etc. because people wouldn't put up with his shit, the moderators very rarely intervene with this kind of thing so if you make your own thread he won't be able to censor anything you say.

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Hi, I remember espringe starting a similar thread about self moderated threads last month right here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/self-moderated-threads-are-harmful-948771

But here is the thing. Today, this happened

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The dispute you are referring to was BAY who gave me negative trust, unjustifiably, because I stopped his affiliate account after he sold/rented a domain with my brand name in it to a competitor. He was paid. He lost future payments which would have totalled a very insignificant amount under the old structure. That's a very valid reason to stop someone's account.

Are you sure it was after he sold your domain ? As far as I remember the domain was sold, after you cut his affliates pay.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9501235

Also, just as a reminder, I am still waiting for my bounty here.

Basically The owner of a casino, who has a negative trust who runs a casino site in a shady way , posted a lie:
The dispute you are referring to was BAY who gave me negative trust, unjustifiably, because I stopped his affiliate account after he sold/rented a domain with my brand name in it to a competitor. He was paid. He lost future payments which would have totalled a very insignificant amount under the old structure. That's a very valid reason to stop someone's account.

Now I replied " Are you sure it was after he sold your domain ? As far as I remember the domain was sold, after you cut his affliates pay.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9501235 "
Which was in reponse to his outright lie.

Now I posted to tell he is lying, but he currently has the right to delete the posts. Should this be allowed on the thread ? I see no reason , why he should take advantage of the moderation to legit questions on the thread.

ALso, just after that ,I get this message from him:

Stop posting in my thread.
I owe you nothing because a) you found no bug b) you didn't report properly what it was you thought you found.
I already reported your group before and that's why one of them got banned for a week.
They didn't ban you because you had stopped for a bit but said I should report you next time.
If you post again after this next delete I will report you again.

Is it also right for him to threaten me with this ? And mods agreeing to ban him(from what he says) , if what I posted is true
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9592998

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