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legendary
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March 17, 2013, 05:57:16 PM
#32

Perhaps that would be an easier solution than notifications or marking deleted posts, a read only subforum where all user deleted posts are moved, available for all to read.

We need to somehow see deleted posts because.......
preferably in the self moderated topic, in bold print. that way, if someone reads the topic, sees there are 50 deleted posts, and the remaining 12 posts are all positive, they can notice.
full member
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Another block in the wall
March 17, 2013, 06:18:10 AM
#31

Perhaps that would be an easier solution than notifications or marking deleted posts, a read only subforum where all user deleted posts are moved, available for all to read.



We need to somehow see deleted posts because.......



Seriously Theymos, sometimes I wonder if you like having the forum full of scammers.  Anyone with a basic knowledge of financial history knew Pirate was a scammer.  How much more money would he have succeeded in stealing of participants here if he could delete posts, and use his cadre of believers to keep his threads at the top of the page?



I can see this being abused by scammers.

1. Create a selling/lending topic with normally unacceptable terms
2. delete any posts saying opposing you
3. Huh
4. profit off newbies

if it wasn't self moderated, experienced members can warn new users that the lender is risky, or in case of goods/services, illegal/bogus/fake/ovepriced




full member
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March 17, 2013, 05:24:46 AM
#30
Scams can and do happen but making it easier to scam people is not cool at all.
hero member
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March 17, 2013, 12:23:21 AM
#29
I don't think the warning is clear enough, it should read something like this:

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High scam risk! This is a self-moderated topic. The original poster can delete replies, including ones which point out fraud or dishonesty by them. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

Because on past experience that's what this is going to be used for, just like the local thread rules were.

Edit: The current warning also doesn't mention that deleted posts disappear completely, so there's no way for normal users to tell if the feature's been used to delete posts.

Makomk is 100% right.

Seriously Theymos, sometimes I wonder if you like having the forum full of scammers.  Anyone with a basic knowledge of financial history knew Pirate was a scammer.  How much more money would he have succeeded in stealing off participants here if he could delete posts, and use his cadre of believers to keep his threads at the top of the page?
full member
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March 16, 2013, 02:38:26 AM
#28
Good for keeping trolls at bay but terrible for freedom of speech. Just delete any post questioning you. I can see it working out very badly for some types of threads which benefit greatly from open discussion.
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
March 16, 2013, 02:01:23 AM
#27
THANK YOU THEYMOS!
administrator
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Merit: 13032
March 15, 2013, 12:37:23 PM
#26
What I'll probably do is have PMs be automatically sent to people who get their posts deleted.

Does deleting someone's post remove the thread from the watchlist?

No.
donator
Activity: 1731
Merit: 1008
March 15, 2013, 11:23:23 AM
#25
I REALLY like this idea,

Time for people to stay on topic and back their claims.
vip
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Merit: 1043
👻
March 14, 2013, 06:10:12 PM
#24
I don't see this being used beyond the novelty factor. Most people don't even know it exists.
legendary
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1452
March 14, 2013, 05:54:39 PM
#23
I can see this being abused by scammers.

1. Create a selling/lending topic with normally unacceptable terms
2. delete any posts saying opposing you
3. Huh
4. profit off newbies

if it wasn't self moderated, experienced members can warn new users that the lender is risky, or in case of goods/services, illegal/bogus/fake/ovepriced
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 564
March 14, 2013, 07:34:40 AM
#22
I don't think the warning is clear enough, it should read something like this:

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High scam risk! This is a self-moderated topic. The original poster can delete replies, including ones which point out fraud or dishonesty by them. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

Because on past experience that's what this is going to be used for, just like the local thread rules were.

Edit: The current warning also doesn't mention that deleted posts disappear completely, so there's no way for normal users to tell if the feature's been used to delete posts.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1128
March 14, 2013, 07:33:22 AM
#21
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1. Can the OP edit the posters' posts in his thread too?

No way.

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2. Are moderators able to see the posts deleted(/edited?) by the OP like they can see in normal threads?

No, we don't see deleted posts. If we want to "delete" something but keep it visible to us or other mods for whatever reason we have a trash can forum available to us we can move it to.

Perhaps that would be an easier solution than notifications or marking deleted posts, a read only subforum where all user deleted posts are moved, available for all to read.

legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 1722
March 14, 2013, 07:21:10 AM
#20
1. Can the OP edit the posters' posts in his thread too?
2. Are moderators able to see the posts deleted(/edited?) by the OP like they can see in normal threads?
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1128
March 14, 2013, 07:15:02 AM
#19
Meh, really it's no different than the current local thread rules (except most people don't even know/use it). There should probably be notifications of some sort though.

Does deleting someone's post remove the thread from the watchlist? I know it removes it from "show new replies to your posts", if it's not an old post at least.
administrator
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Merit: 13032
March 14, 2013, 01:27:55 AM
#18
Goat is lying too?

Goat is, like you, assuming that what he read is true without verifying it. Notice that this thread is also self-moderated, yet you can't delete posts here.
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legendary
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Away on an extended break
March 14, 2013, 01:19:44 AM
#16
I believe that Phinnaeus Gage is lying, unless others can confirm.
Uh, what did PG said?
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March 14, 2013, 01:18:36 AM
#15
Goat is lying too?
administrator
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Merit: 13032
March 14, 2013, 01:17:53 AM
#14
I believe that Phinnaeus Gage is lying, unless others can confirm.
member
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Weighted companion cube
March 14, 2013, 01:14:15 AM
#13
There might be a bug with other people (not OP) being able to delete posts in self moderated posts?
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