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October 30, 2011, 06:48:07 PM
#24
The question that I can't refrain from any longer:
If you've got it all figured out, then why is your choice wrong?
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October 30, 2011, 06:47:38 PM
#23
Also, 51%-99% is considered a majority. It is the "common answer" to which I am referring to.

A rational person would consider this the most likely choice they should pick.

Anyways, I know nothing.
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October 30, 2011, 06:45:56 PM
#22
It is true. You have only misunderstood me. What I mean is the majority of people will stick to one common answer. People tend not to be snowflakes when it comes to this stuff.
Actually, the results are usually pretty spread. People are irrational, or try to be rational but get it wrong. Wait and see, you'll see there's not "one common answer".
Science is always the best answer.

However, irrational is not always sporadic nor is rationality always relevant in the first place. We're limiting our perspective here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouba/kiki_effect

Common psychology may be key to predicting the outcome.
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October 30, 2011, 06:44:33 PM
#21
It is true. You have only misunderstood me. What I mean is the majority of people will stick to one common answer. People tend not to be snowflakes when it comes to this stuff.
Actually, the results are usually pretty spread. People are irrational, or try to be rational but get it wrong. Wait and see, you'll see there's not "one common answer".
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October 30, 2011, 06:43:15 PM
#20
As the amount of voters increase, the more likely the chance a large majority of people choose one poll option.
That's not true. You cannot see the results before you voted, and you cannot change your vote afterwards. So it would be: As the amount of voters increases, the statistical deviation will get smaller, and it will get closer to its ultimate distribution.

...based on rational voters, otherwise all bets are off.

http://jamin.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/rational-emotial-service1.jpg

Mr. Gage gets it. I salute you.
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October 30, 2011, 06:42:31 PM
#19
As the amount of voters increase, the more likely the chance a large majority of people choose one poll option.
That's not true. You cannot see the results before you voted, and you cannot change your vote afterwards. So it would be: As the amount of voters increases, the statistical deviation will get smaller, and it will get closer to its ultimate distribution.

...based on rational voters, otherwise all bets are off.


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October 30, 2011, 06:41:29 PM
#18
As the amount of voters increase, the more likely the chance a large majority of people choose one poll option.
That's not true. You cannot see the results before you voted, and you cannot change your vote afterwards. So it would be: As the amount of voters increases, the statistical deviation will get smaller, and it will get closer to its ultimate distribution.
It is true. You have only misunderstood me. What I mean is the majority of people will stick to one common answer. People tend not to be snowflakes when it comes to this stuff.

In any case, the poll will either be totally incorrect or correct in terms of one answer. Distribution being even is not likely.
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October 30, 2011, 06:39:02 PM
#17
As the amount of voters increase, the more likely the chance a large majority of people choose one poll option.
That's not true. You cannot see the results before you voted, and you cannot change your vote afterwards. So it would be: As the amount of voters increases, the statistical deviation will get smaller, and it will get closer to its ultimate distribution.
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October 30, 2011, 06:35:06 PM
#16
As the amount of voters increase, the more likely the chance a large majority of people choose one poll option. People's perceptions rarely differ and tend to correlate to one degree. The larger the sample, the more potent the accuracy. There can only be one, if you will. This will inevitably eliminate any possible correctness of most poll options and leave only 51%-99% as the only possibly correct option.
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October 30, 2011, 06:21:42 PM
#15
The most logical option will be the second to last one in most cases.
Why would that be the most logical? I can think of 2 interpretations of "most logical", and they both give a different option than the second to last one.
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October 30, 2011, 06:20:19 PM
#14
The most logical option will be the second to last one in most cases.
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October 30, 2011, 06:15:25 PM
#13
Upon reading the supplied Wiki link, then reading via other links, I think I came across a great example of semantic loopholes: htttp://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655/readings/purity.html
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October 30, 2011, 05:47:32 PM
#12
I've seen/done more of these polls over time, and usually the correct answer is indeed around the 25% range. I wanted to make it a bit more interesting, that's why I didn't make the ranges the same size; the high percentage is obviously much higher.
I find it funny there's always people choosing 100%. It's not like everyone is going to do that…
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October 30, 2011, 05:35:37 PM
#11
i didn't think about it for too long but i figured since there are 6 options, then the average would be 16% so 2-20% would be the one to choose.

however over time, more people would probably also realise this and vote on lower numbers, bringing them higher in comparison to options 4, 5, 6.

so i bumped it up a notch and chose 21-35%  ...it's currently on 16.7% but i expect that one might grow to fit correctly over time.
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October 30, 2011, 12:37:07 PM
#10
And no one picked 1%  Embarrassed
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October 30, 2011, 12:18:13 PM
#9
Here's a fun article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superrationality

I assumed most of you would employ similar strategies to my own.
Thanks, that was a good read!
I wouldn't assume everyone here is superrational though Roll Eyes

Damn, there goes my stategy.
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October 30, 2011, 12:15:51 PM
#8
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I wouldn't assume everyone here is superrational though
That's what I did and I got it wrong Undecided.
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October 30, 2011, 11:54:10 AM
#7
Here's a fun article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superrationality

I assumed most of you would employ similar strategies to my own.
Thanks, that was a good read!
I wouldn't assume everyone here is superrational though Roll Eyes
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October 30, 2011, 11:48:12 AM
#6
Here's a fun article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superrationality

I assumed most of you would employ similar strategies to my own.
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October 30, 2011, 10:45:27 AM
#5
I don't think "there have been votes" gives info, since I try to vote for the option which I think will be correct in the long-term. If you just want your vote to be correct right now, then of course it gives info. The opposite of the info "there have been no votes", which would imply you should vote 100% if you want it correct right now.
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