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Topic: Selfish Bitcoin holders? Are we now the evil greedy bankers of the future? - page 3. (Read 3764 times)

full member
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If you're using weather balloons, why don't you just do it this afternoon?

I don't know how much one costs, but buy a weather balloon, slap a shitty iPhone 3 onto it for filming, and launch it into space tomorrow morning.

There are tons of youtube videos of people screwing around, sending things into space.  Its really not that hard using this method.

And it will garner about as much interest as the effort required to do it.

-B-
It is much more complex than that. We will be live streaming the entire mission .We will have 6 HD cams capturing the Event. We will be controlling the accent and decent with thrusters. Much Much more than just letting go of a balloon with a camera on it. To be 100% in control of the Mission we need to have the advanced thruster capabilities. So we can control accent and decent. We need the live streaming video so the world can take part of the Mission.
legendary
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Terminated.
Hope I did not offend you. That was not my intention. You are a part of bitcoin thus my brother or sister in crypto. If you were offended I am truly sorry
Yes and no.
You are kind of pushing us into donating towards your project. Why not push us into someone else's project?
sr. member
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* yawn *

if we don't take action you will be yawning yourself to Bitcoin value to $20 usd .

The idea that we have to create positive news to rocket bitcoin to the moon (pun intended) is counter-intuitive to letting bitcoin generate its own success through the improvements that it generates for its users.

we don't need PR gimmicks, Bitcoin will appreciate in time on its own.
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If I may offer you a bit of constructive criticism...

1: You website is amateurish at best.  Bitcoiners see a website like that and they think great, another scam.  I not saying you have to change your website.  I'm saying you'll have to work harder to convince us you are legit.

2: Calling us all greedy bankers will not win you any brownie points here, my friend.  Don't try to guilt us into supporting your cause.

3: You don't have any basic information front and center describing you project.  Who are you? How is it possible you can get something into space? Do you have contacts at NASA or something? How does it work? Are you building your own rocket? Where are you launching from?  Do you have a permit? Are the cops going to shut you down?  Are you going to burn your house down with this? Are you going to burn MY HOUSE down with this? etc.   Some basic info about what you are trying to do would go a long way towards generating support.




Thank you for your time to educating me. It means a lot to me when people take the time to share knowledge. I will update information. I outlined all of the information in the main thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-flag-going-to-space-yes-space-the-final-frontier-441303  

We will be using Weather balloons so no worries about legality . Weather balloons are launched all the time . The total weight of the craft will be 1-5 pounds .

It's a start.  Now tell us about you.  Who are you?  What is your experience with weather balloons?  Have you ever launched before?  Do you work with this tech everyday, or is it a hobby? Where do you launch from? How high will the balloon reach?  Is it tethered? or free floating? How will you retrieve the balloon? How much will it cost? Do you have contingencies if something goes wrong?

etc, etc

You need to spell out a good plan and details, details, details!  You are trying to accomplish an engineering feat therefore you have to prove to us that you have a detailed plan that has a chance of succeeding that a mere layman can't tear apart in 30 seconds.


Fantastic!! i will start writing up the details NOW and post them to the info thread and website. Thank you again for your advice .You have been so helpful .I would like to show my appreciation by giving you a AD spot. Please send me a logo or anything you would like added to the craft that takes the flag to space. Send the Image/Logo to [email protected] or just send it here or PM
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i like the idea, but perhaps in like 5 years once and if some of us get really wealthy. Which has yet to occur.

I would like to open a 'branch' kind of like a bank, basically an office space perhaps across the street from a major branch like Bank of America, the store would be called BITCOIN.. It would operate as a nonprofit, funded by the bitcoin community. Now if anyone driving by or coming to/from the bank, has any questions regarding the many things people need to know about bitcoin, I can sit there with them on a computer that I supply, I show them how to operate coinbase, blockchain, BTC client, how to safely store bitcoins, And the goal in mind is get encourage most who come by why it is a wise idea for them to go home on their computer and buy some bitcoin. Making me NOT a money service business making it completely legal as nothing is bought or sold under my roof, however the longer term affects of people going out and buy 1 of 13million bitcoin will RAISE the price!

Kind of how I want to open a marijuana store in a non legal state, call the store "Marijuana" so the city and every one can get their panties in a bunch, advertise free marijuana, to create a buzz, get the police, dea, who ever stopping by searching for all the marijuana that does not exist, and use the space, and the people stopping by as a way to educate people how a dispensary looks, functions, etc. Educating the people first is the most powerful thing people can do to help their neighbor.

Let the town get into an uproar over the name marijuana have parents pissing their pants, whilst others are stopping by showing their support, police would get upset because no laws are being broken, the city would attempt to close me down, but free speech and the lack of illegal substances on premise would leave them with no ammo..

Awesome Ideas !!!! You are why bitcoin is awesome . You want to share information for Free by setting up a Bitcoin info center. You would Sacrifice your time to help build a better bitcoin  world. That’s awesome. When you open this center please PM me and I would happily donate to your cause
hero member
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If you're using weather balloons, why don't you just do it this afternoon?

I don't know how much one costs, but buy a weather balloon, slap a shitty iPhone 3 onto it for filming, and launch it into space tomorrow morning.

There are tons of youtube videos of people screwing around, sending things into space.  Its really not that hard using this method.

And it will garner about as much interest as the effort required to do it.

-B-
sr. member
Activity: 314
Merit: 251
If I may offer you a bit of constructive criticism...

1: You website is amateurish at best.  Bitcoiners see a website like that and they think great, another scam.  I not saying you have to change your website.  I'm saying you'll have to work harder to convince us you are legit.

2: Calling us all greedy bankers will not win you any brownie points here, my friend.  Don't try to guilt us into supporting your cause.

3: You don't have any basic information front and center describing you project.  Who are you? How is it possible you can get something into space? Do you have contacts at NASA or something? How does it work? Are you building your own rocket? Where are you launching from?  Do you have a permit? Are the cops going to shut you down?  Are you going to burn your house down with this? Are you going to burn MY HOUSE down with this? etc.   Some basic info about what you are trying to do would go a long way towards generating support.




Thank you for your time to educating me. It means a lot to me when people take the time to share knowledge. I will update information. I outlined all of the information in the main thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-flag-going-to-space-yes-space-the-final-frontier-441303  

We will be using Weather balloons so no worries about legality . Weather balloons are launched all the time . The total weight of the craft will be 1-5 pounds .

It's a start.  Now tell us about you.  Who are you?  What is your experience with weather balloons?  Have you ever launched before?  Do you work with this tech everyday, or is it a hobby? Where do you launch from? How high will the balloon reach?  Is it tethered? or free floating? How will you retrieve the balloon? How much will it cost? Do you have contingencies if something goes wrong?

etc, etc

You need to spell out a good plan and details, details, details!  You are trying to accomplish an engineering feat therefore you have to prove to us that you have a detailed plan that has a chance of succeeding that a mere layman can't tear apart in 30 seconds.

newbie
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Greedy? I think you're in the middle of price crisis right now. The price of BTC/LTC has dropped big time and you're asking for free donation? You might have to wait until we all are comfortably good with the way BTC/LTC prices are going and that might not happen for a while or for a long time.  Undecided
full member
Activity: 168
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"Are are now the evil greedy bankers of the future?" I did not stat "we are now the evil greedy bankers of the future"
Yes I'm an evil greedy banker. Hopefully your scam project dies. Enjoy.

Hope I did not offend you. That was not my intention. You are a part of bitcoin thus my brother or sister in crypto. If you were offended I am truly sorry
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OP:

1)  The venture you're offering seems (please don't take offense) kind of cheesy.  To those not in the tech world, all they will see is "Big Bang Theory" cast member / ComiCon enthusiast nerdyness.  Especially with the whole "Bitcoin Space Federation".  Its really important that you are aware of your audience if you want to drum up enthusiasm and support for something.  You're marketing to a miniscule demographic.  

2)  I don't see how putting a flag in space is going to be "something epic" for Bitcoin.  It meets no need.  It does nothing to make the non-Bitcoin person's life easier, and therefore it will do absolutely nothing to make the price of Bitcoin rise.  The vast majority of people out there will roll their eyes and think its some silly little strange endeavour that Bitcoin enthusiasts are doing, who are clearly out of touch with reality.  If you want to do something "epic" for bitcoin, find a functional need in the infrastructure and start a business that provides for it.

3)  The whole "How is this guy going to launch something into space" element is kind of the elephant in the room.  I haven't read your announcement thread but going by the posts above, you still haven't clarified how you plan to accomplish it.  

4)  What's it going to do when it gets there?  Orbit earth, wadded up like a paper ball along with the other 100,000 bits of space junk?  At least the company planning to launch a blockchain node into space is meeting an important need for redundancy and security.  Maybe you can email those guys and slap your flag on the side of the thing.

-B-
Thank you for you time spend educating me.  I outlined the details in the main  ANN thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-flag-going-to-space-yes-space-the-final-frontier-441303

This mission is the first we are doing . Next i would like to see a Bitcoin Satellite that broadcasts the block chain from space. The important of his flag launch is to create global buzz. I will get millions of YouTube his and most likely get seen in the major news stations. We have been getting a lot of negative PR from the news lately about bicoin. I aim to change that by flooding the news with positive NEWS about bitcoin
legendary
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"Are are now the evil greedy bankers of the future?" I did not stat "we are now the evil greedy bankers of the future"
Yes I'm an evil greedy banker. Hopefully your scam project dies. Enjoy.
sr. member
Activity: 350
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i like the idea, but perhaps in like 5 years once and if some of us get really wealthy. Which has yet to occur.

I would like to open a 'branch' kind of like a bank, basically an office space perhaps across the street from a major branch like Bank of America, the store would be called BITCOIN.. It would operate as a nonprofit, funded by the bitcoin community. Now if anyone driving by or coming to/from the bank, has any questions regarding the many things people need to know about bitcoin, I can sit there with them on a computer that I supply, I show them how to operate coinbase, blockchain, BTC client, how to safely store bitcoins, And the goal in mind is get encourage most who come by why it is a wise idea for them to go home on their computer and buy some bitcoin. Making me NOT a money service business making it completely legal as nothing is bought or sold under my roof, however the longer term affects of people going out and buy 1 of 13million bitcoin will RAISE the price!

Kind of how I want to open a marijuana store in a non legal state, call the store "Marijuana" so the city and every one can get their panties in a bunch, advertise free marijuana, to create a buzz, get the police, dea, who ever stopping by searching for all the marijuana that does not exist, and use the space, and the people stopping by as a way to educate people how a dispensary looks, functions, etc. Educating the people first is the most powerful thing people can do to help their neighbor.

Let the town get into an uproar over the name marijuana have parents pissing their pants, whilst others are stopping by showing their support, police would get upset because no laws are being broken, the city would attempt to close me down, but free speech and the lack of illegal substances on premise would leave them with no ammo..
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
OP:

1)  The venture you're offering seems (please don't take offense) kind of cheesy.  To those not in the tech world, all they will see is "Big Bang Theory" cast member / ComiCon enthusiast nerdyness.  Especially with the whole "Bitcoin Space Federation".  Its really important that you are aware of your audience if you want to drum up enthusiasm and support for something.  You're marketing to a miniscule demographic.  

2)  I don't see how putting a flag in space is going to be "something epic" for Bitcoin.  It meets no need.  It does nothing to make the non-Bitcoin person's life easier.  Therefore it will not increase demand for Bitcoin.  Therefore it will not (by definition) do anything to make the price go up.  The vast majority of people out there will roll their eyes and think of it as a silly endeavour that has no purpose.  You might get a couple mentions in a couple articles, at best. If you want to do something "epic" for bitcoin, find a functional need in the infrastructure and start a business that provides for it.

3)  What's it going to do when it gets there?  Orbit earth, wadded up like a paper ball along with the other 100,000 bits of space junk?  At least the company planning to launch a blockchain node into space is meeting an important need for redundancy and security.  Maybe you can email those guys and slap your flag on the side of the thing.

-B-
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Activity: 168
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If I may offer you a bit of constructive criticism...

1: You website is amateurish at best.  Bitcoiners see a website like that and they think great, another scam.  I not saying you have to change your website.  I'm saying you'll have to work harder to convince us you are legit.

2: Calling us all greedy bankers will not win you any brownie points here, my friend.  Don't try to guilt us into supporting your cause.

3: You don't have any basic information front and center describing you project.  Who are you? How is it possible you can get something into space? Do you have contacts at NASA or something? How does it work? Are you building your own rocket? Where are you launching from?  Do you have a permit? Are the cops going to shut you down?  Are you going to burn your house down with this? Are you going to burn MY HOUSE down with this? etc.   Some basic info about what you are trying to do would go a long way towards generating support.




Thank you for your time to educating me. It means a lot to me when people take the time to share knowledge. I will update information. I outlined all of the information in the main thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-flag-going-to-space-yes-space-the-final-frontier-441303  

We will be using Weather balloons so no worries about legality . Weather balloons are launched all the time . The total weight of the craft will be 1-5 pounds .
sr. member
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send a flag to space.
because all passing trade will know that, we on earth accept bitcoin and they will stop off on their travels for a mocha-latte.
what a crap idea dude.
full member
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If I don't donate USD or bitcoin to some charity or project, they will declare me a greedy holder?
If I chose to donate or not is my choice. Now, you can be sure that I'll redirect everyone away from your project.
Regards,

~LM

i ASKED a question . "Are are now the evil greedy bankers of the future?" I did not stat "we are now the evil greedy bankers of the future"
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
How about not over reaching and attributing the lack of success to gready "holders"?  Plenty of companies have sold plenty of goods for Bitcoins.  The same goes to charities.   Take a look at Sean's Outpost.

The fact that you have raised exactly zero speaks more to your venture.  I never donated because the proposal was light on details and I doubted your ability to pull it off.  At this point your rant against evil greedy bitcoin holders ... well my interest is exactly 0.

Please Educate me!!! I am not being sarcastic. If I am doing something wrong tell me how to do it right. As long as the mission gets accomplished I will swallow my pride and listen and do whatever it takes to launch the flag into space.  If you have the time please tell me what I need to do?
You seem to have been around this community for a while and I trust in your counsel and wisdom



First find a trustable member of the community to collect the funds for your project.
That would stop people saying it's a scam. I myself consider your project a scam  to this point.
legendary
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Terminated.
If I don't donate USD or bitcoin to some charity or project, they will declare me a greedy holder?
If I chose to donate or not is my choice. Now, you can be sure that I'll redirect everyone away from your project.
Regards,

~LM
hero member
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If we are, I plan to be a kind and gentle ruler.  

-B-
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
Selfish Bitcoin holders

I have been trying to drum up some support from the community to help launch the first bitcoin flag into space. I was even offering free advertisement space to people who donate. I have not received 1 donation to support Bitcoin flag going to space. Bitcoin needs positive news in the media to make the prices rise again. As a Bitcoin holder it is in my best interest to create positive PR in the media to help surge Bitcoin popularity and prices. I have spent many Bitcoins on parts, Cameras, Material needed for the mission to launch bitcoin flag into space but not one person has found it in them to help. DAMN selfish bitcoin community consumed by greed has no idea or care about the greater good. This is not what Satoshi had in mind for us to turn into the greedy banker types. I ask you one last time .Support the mission to take the FIRST Bitcoin Flag into SPACE. Donate please  1HNNi6EPCxRsHUpGESZXoFr9qpWqiLeY8L

Mission to take the FIRST Bitcoin Flag into SPACE
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-flag-going-to-space-yes-space-the-final-frontier-441303



I am no trying o be an A$$hole i just want to do something EPIC for Bitcoin and you the Bitcoin community


Maybe because of this:

No one else smells a scam here?

And the few others saying the same?
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