[Sell] AWS Account with almost 15k credits - page 2.

monsterim

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Quote from: johnsmithx on September 11, 2016, 07:54:26 AM

Actually, thinking about this more, under certain conditions probably the safest for you (the seller) and also for the buyer would be if you simply allowed the buyer to access your account using roles (that way he will never login directly to your account so there will be no different IP login issue) and let him pay you daily based on how much credit he spends (which you can see in the daily billing). You would basically rent the account.

Not every buyer will probably agree to that, and it would require the buyer to use your account in an absolutely legal/legit/proper way so that your account is not suspended based on his actions. This is a risk you would have to take as you would be dealing with anonymous unknown people. But I guess whatever way you decide to sell your account there will always be a certain risk.

If you happen to like the renting idea, I would be interested myself. I am using AWS accounts for work, so nothing improper, and I could pay you the mentioned 6-10% daily. Depending on how many instances I could launch I would be able to burn through all your credit in a few months, probably by the end of this year, daily rent paid in BTC.

Again thanks for your inputs here really appreciate it giving me some ideas what can be done with the account. I am up for renting I had thought about it before as well. I might be getting one more account soon with 15k credits if everything will go according to plan the next week when I go visit a friend.

The guy above that contacted me wants to do mining which I am not really up to it as I heard only trouble would come if you use the instances for mining though he claims he didn't get suspended before so yeah.

I am also doing some more research on what can and cannot be done.

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Actually, thinking about this more, under certain conditions probably the safest for you (the seller) and also for the buyer would be if you simply allowed the buyer to access your account using roles (that way he will never login directly to your account so there will be no different IP login issue) and let him pay you daily based on how much credit he spends (which you can see in the daily billing). You would basically rent the account.

Not every buyer will probably agree to that, and it would require the buyer to use your account in an absolutely legal/legit/proper way so that your account is not suspended based on his actions. This is a risk you would have to take as you would be dealing with anonymous unknown people. But I guess whatever way you decide to sell your account there will always be a certain risk.

If you happen to like the renting idea, I would be interested myself. I am using AWS accounts for work, so nothing improper, and I could pay you the mentioned 6-10% daily. Depending on how many instances I could launch I would be able to burn through all your credit in a few months, probably by the end of this year, daily rent paid in BTC.

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Quote from: monsterim on September 11, 2016, 06:05:49 AM

Thanks for your input. We have decided to go with the giving access to other account which I doubt will be any problem. I mean why shouldn't we be able to share the account and budget with other "companies" well accounts to be exact?

That's called consolidated billing and the problem with this in this situation could be the following:

You can use the Consolidated Billing feature to consolidate payment for multiple Amazon Web Services (AWS) accounts or multiple Amazon International Services Pvt. Ltd (AISPL) accounts within your organization by designating one of them to be the payer account.

The buyer obviously does not belong to your organization, whatever that may mean, so I would be careful with this. If you pay from your account the bills of some totally unrelated foreign account who-knows-whose and who-knows-from-where it may possibly trigger some money-laundering and/or tax-evasion counter-measures, again resulting in the account suspension. The easiest would be to just sell it as it is, but change the administrative e-mail right now so that the time before the IP is changed is as long as possible.

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Quote from: johnsmithx on September 11, 2016, 05:52:51 AM

Quote from: monsterim on September 11, 2016, 04:43:08 AM

I think I could change the email and password after the payment so that shouldn't be a problem.

That's not the right way to do it. You sell your AWS account together with the e-mail account it's tied to. So if the current e-mail is your private then change it now. If you wait till you find the buyer then there will be two (in fact three) very significant changes in the AWS account happening in a very short time: the e-mail changes and the IP address changes.

It's already bad enough that all of a sudden there will be logins coming from a totally different IP address that's physically impossible to be yours (yours - the original and officially the only owner). If you change the login e-mail only shortly before that it will be another indication that the account was most probably illegally sold (and thus shall be suspended). The IP address issue can be partially counteracted by using roles, though, see the link below. Then there is a third (unavoidable) important change that happens when the user changes: the workload changes, i.e. the way how the new owner uses the account.

Each and every such crucial change increases the chance of triggering some safety measure, all resulting in the account suspension. So don't wait and change the e-mail now.

I strongly encourage every potential buyer to read some of the best practices regarding buying AWS accounts.

Thanks for your input. We have decided to go with the giving access to other account which I doubt will be any problem. I mean why shouldn't we be able to share the account and budget with other "companies" well accounts to be exact?

He has experience with amazon AWS and probably account will be used by him but will let you know in the thread if he won't be interested anymore.

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Quote from: monsterim on September 11, 2016, 04:43:08 AM

I think I could change the email and password after the payment so that shouldn't be a problem.

That's not the right way to do it. You sell your AWS account together with the e-mail account it's tied to. So if the current e-mail is your private then change it now. If you wait till you find the buyer then there will be two (in fact three) very significant changes in the AWS account happening in a very short time: the e-mail changes and the IP address changes.

It's already bad enough that all of a sudden there will be logins coming from a totally different IP address that's physically impossible to be yours (yours - the original and officially the only owner). If you change the login e-mail only shortly before that it will be another indication that the account was most probably illegally sold (and thus shall be suspended). The IP address issue can be partially counteracted by using roles, though, see the link below. Then there is a third (unavoidable) important change that happens when the user changes: the workload changes, i.e. the way how the new owner uses the account.

Each and every such crucial change increases the chance of triggering some safety measure, all resulting in the account suspension. So don't wait and change the e-mail now.

I strongly encourage every potential buyer to read some of the best practices regarding buying AWS accounts.

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Quote from: paulthetafy on September 11, 2016, 04:36:50 AM

This is a significant amount of credit. Since it is not transferrable to a different account, how could you guarantee that this account would not be suspended? What would stop you from claiming your account had been hacked or anything like that?

Would you consider authorising the buyers account to "use" this billing account instead? If so would you consider taking payment in parts, for example in advance for every $1000 of credit used? That way there is less risk for buyers, and equally you can stop it at any time (by disabling the buyers account) if they don't pay.

Going rate for AWS is around $6-10 per $100 of credit, less if buying in bulk. I would expect a $15k account to fetch somewhere around $1000-$1200.

I think I could change the email and password after the payment so that shouldn't be a problem. I have an expired card on there but account is still active (has been for the past year or so) so I doubt that will really be the problem. It might get suspended if you will go against their TOS so I can't really guarantee that if you will let's say use miners for BTC on there as that will totally get it suspended.

Why would I do that? I have no use of the account and no means of scamming like I said this will go to someone that knows what he is doing and know the TOS of AWS as I don't want to see it go to waste even though I am not using it much anymore.

If possible I would like to sell it in one go but if that is something that would make it assured then yes can be done.

As for the price I was expecting to get somewhere between 1.5k (but can negotiate if you got a good reason to use this).

If you got more questions I will gladly answer them.

The list where the credit can be used:

Code:

AWS Certificate Manager
AWS CloudTrail
AWS CodeCommit
AWS CodeDeploy
AWS CodePipeline
AWS Config
AWS Data Pipeline
AWS Data Transfer
AWS Database Migration Service
AWS Device Farm
AWS Direct Connect
AWS Directory Service
AWS Elastic Beanstalk
AWS Import/Export Snowball
AWS IoT
AWS Key Management Service
AWS Lambda
AWS Mobile Hub
AWS OpsWorks
AWS Service Catalog
AWS Storage Gateway
AWS WAF
Alexa Top Sites
Alexa Web Information Service
Amazon API Gateway
Amazon AppStream
Amazon CloudFront
Amazon CloudSearch
Amazon Cloudcast (deprecated)
Amazon Cognito Sync
Amazon DynamoDB
Amazon EC2 Container Registry (ECR)
Amazon EC2 Container Service
Amazon ElastiCache
Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud
Amazon Elastic File System
Amazon Elastic MapReduce
Amazon Elastic Transcoder
Amazon Elasticsearch Service
Amazon Flexible Payments Service
Amazon Fulfillment Web Service
Amazon GameLift
Amazon Glacier
Amazon Kinesis
Amazon Kinesis Firehose
Amazon Machine Learning
Amazon Mobile Analytics
Amazon RDS Service
Amazon Redshift
Amazon Route 53
Amazon Simple Email Service
Amazon Simple Notification Service
Amazon Simple Queue Service
Amazon Simple Storage Service
Amazon Simple Workflow Service
Amazon SimpleDB
Amazon Virtual Private Cloud
Amazon WorkDocs
Amazon WorkSpaces
Amazon Zocalo
AmazonCloudWatch
AmazonWorkMail

paulthetafy

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This is a significant amount of credit. Since it is not transferrable to a different account, how could you guarantee that this account would not be suspended? What would stop you from claiming your account had been hacked or anything like that?

Would you consider authorising the buyers account to "use" this billing account instead? If so would you consider taking payment in parts, for example in advance for every $1000 of credit used? That way there is less risk for buyers, and equally you can stop it at any time (by disabling the buyers account) if they don't pay.

Going rate for AWS is around $6-10 per $100 of credit, less if buying in bulk. I would expect a $15k account to fetch somewhere around $1000-$1200.

monsterim

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Hello people.

So I got this AWS sitting around I had used it before just for some scrapebox runs so there is still around 15k credits left (not billed for this month yet but shouldn't be more then 30$ more).

As you can see account is valid till 2018 so plenty of time to use those credits up.

I will be accepting BTC only and we can do escrow if you do not trust me.

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