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newbie
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I agree that no one has an estimate of active market size in india.

people who are trading(buying and selling to customers in india) btc, can u give us a rough estimate of avg.amount of btc u trade in a day or or week? americandesi and escrowms are actively selling right now i guess.

Bangalore    
Hyderabad    
Mumbai    
Chennai    
Pune
Delhi

are only showing interest or say have awareness in btc in that order. Untill a big name/brand associates itself to btc the reach and growth will be poor as far as India is concerned.
hero member
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Cypherpunk and full-time CryptoAnarchist
I did not get the point. Who decides the base price for charging the commission? Say I buy a coin for Rs.1000 and want to sell it at Rs.1200. Either i directly quote Rs.1200 as the price or say the price is 1150 and the 'fee' is Rs.50 .
"It gives you better competitiveness in price display."


is the prominent factor if u ask me.

ppl will visit  thinking the rates are cheaper, ofcourse can later decide on it.

devansh1991 what you  said  is  an  ideal  form  of  trading  which  can  only  be  possible  if  there  is a  trading   market,  in India.  right now   the   price  determination  is  done  by  exchanges   that are in  other  countries and   it  does  not   paint  a   proper  picture  of  what  the   market  force  in  India  is  like. 

I have  always  said  that   we  can  create  a  market  force   determination  in India   without  a  conventional trading market  setup (Exhange), i.e  to  use  this   forum's Market  section  as a   barometer,  enforce  a  rule  that   makes the  sellers  and  buyers  to  display  the  amt  they  are   willing to  buy and  sell for .  the   mid  point  will be   a current  market  price. 
newbie
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I did not get the point. Who decides the base price for charging the commission? Say I buy a coin for Rs.1000 and want to sell it at Rs.1200. Either i directly quote Rs.1200 as the price or say the price is 1150 and the 'fee' is Rs.50 .
"It gives you better competitiveness in price display."


is the prominent factor if u ask me.

ppl will visit  thinking the rates are cheaper, ofcourse can later decide on it.
member
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Bitcoin Trading Platform
Now no fees on selling coins  Shocked

Regards

Wow.

Now that is a irresistable offer. Cheers again.
legendary
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https://www.zebpay.com
Now no fees on selling coins  Shocked

Regards
legendary
Activity: 1105
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https://www.zebpay.com
Bump for today, only 2 days left Smiley

Book profits now and pay lowest fees in Industry Smiley

Regards
legendary
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https://www.zebpay.com
I think the question you had because of the gap in buy and sell prices before adding fees. This thing almost every one gets wrong.

If you think the exchange spot price is correct way to determine BTc prices than its a very wrong choice.
You will also have to add exchange fees, fees and charges required to move money in and out of exchanges, currency conversion charges in bank. We also add in various other factors which allows us to manage our risk profile when Bitcoin trading is volatile. We can assure you that if you will take final counting with selling or buying coin rates, our rates would be one of the best available in the market.

And closing comments Smiley The current sell fees we are offering is lowest.. LOWEST you can get.

Have you ever come across a shop keeper who charges a commission on the goods he sells/buys ??

I don't see how exchange fee etc etc come into play coz u deal only with indian citizens.

Factors allowing you to manage ur risk profile- this factor cannot form a basis of ur base price and should be included in your 'fee'

anyways like i said let the customers decide  Tongue


No worries Smiley I do understand what you are trying to say. Initially with buysellbitco.in we had fees included in our rates, but we evolved Smiley

Any ways, lets agree to disagree Smiley

Regards
full member
Activity: 138
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I think the question you had because of the gap in buy and sell prices before adding fees. This thing almost every one gets wrong.

If you think the exchange spot price is correct way to determine BTc prices than its a very wrong choice.
You will also have to add exchange fees, fees and charges required to move money in and out of exchanges, currency conversion charges in bank. We also add in various other factors which allows us to manage our risk profile when Bitcoin trading is volatile. We can assure you that if you will take final counting with selling or buying coin rates, our rates would be one of the best available in the market.

And closing comments Smiley The current sell fees we are offering is lowest.. LOWEST you can get.

Have you ever come across a shop keeper who charges a commission on the goods he sells/buys ??

I don't see how exchange fee etc etc come into play coz u deal only with indian citizens.

Factors allowing you to manage ur risk profile- this factor cannot form a basis of ur base price and should be included in your 'fee'

anyways like i said let the customers decide  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1105
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https://www.zebpay.com
I don't understand why buysellbitco has a 'fee' at all. Since price is being quoted by bitco itself whats the point in adding a 'fee' on top of the price you are selling at?

Hi,

Reasons to have separate component on fees are several :
1. It gives you better competitiveness in price display.
2. It's more transparent to user's what we charge them.
3. It helps in accounting Smiley
4. It helps to have creative promotions run  smoothly, like you can easily allow discounts on fees etc.

I think the question you had because of the gap in buy and sell prices before adding fees. This thing almost every one gets wrong.

If you think the exchange spot price is correct way to determine BTc prices than its a very wrong choice.

We have very complex algorithm to decide on our prices. Normally people see only last trade price on exchange and thinks that it is bitcoin price they can get, but the perception is very wrong as last trade can be of only 0.01 BTC ( Normally those trades setup bull and bear traps and they artificially keep prices manipulated, and with such a small economy like bitcoin it is too easy )  and what you want to sell is say 10 BTC. You can not directly use Exchange last or buy rate, you must use Exchange buy side orderbook to accumulate the quantity you want to sell and see how much it gets you, which is always going to be lower than the last trade price. You will also have to add exchange fees, fees and charges required to move money in and out of exchanges, currency conversion charges in bank. We also add in various other factors which allows us to manage our risk profile when Bitcoin trading is volatile. We can assure you that if you will take final counting with selling or buying coin rates, our rates would be one of the best available in the market.

And closing comments Smiley The current sell fees we are offering is lowest.. LOWEST you can get.

I hope I was able to clear few of your concerns.

Edit : And yes we give locked in rates for 4 hours. Thats a huge huge risk when you actually do business and considering volumes.

Regards
full member
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I am relieved Cheesy. I suppose it is best left to the customers to decide !
legendary
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Landscaping Bitcoin for India!
I don't want to start a silly argument, I had a doubt and I asked. If it hurts anybody, i'll delete my comments.

Lol, not at all an argument.

Just trying to explain out what I think that he is trying to do. And it is cool to raise these questions.
full member
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I don't want to start a silly argument, I had a doubt and I asked. If it hurts anybody, i'll delete my comments.
legendary
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Landscaping Bitcoin for India!
The point I am trying to make is that you cannot charge a fee for your own goods but can only book a profit. No offence to bitco but i feel it misguiding the customers into believing that the price they are paying is 3%(or1.5%) more than the market value when they are actually paying much more than that.

Whats the market value of Bitcoin in India?

You can also say that he is playing on honest averages and that his buy rate is exactly what the claimed market rate is.
full member
Activity: 138
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The point I am trying to make is that you cannot charge a fee for your own goods but can only book a profit. No offence to bitco but i feel it misguiding the customers into believing that the price they are paying is 3%(or1.5%) more than the market value when they are actually paying much more than that.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1000
Landscaping Bitcoin for India!
I did not get the point. Who decides the base price for charging the commission? Say I buy a coin for Rs.1000 and want to sell it at Rs.1200. Either i directly quote Rs.1200 as the price or say the price is 1150 and the 'fee' is Rs.50 .

Thats a business model choice, I would say. You can also say that you are selling it for 900 and add a 300 rs fee. Whatever sells is all.

I guess that buysellbitcoin would have the correct answer.
full member
Activity: 138
Merit: 100
I did not get the point. Who decides the base price for charging the commission? Say I buy a coin for Rs.1000 and want to sell it at Rs.1200. Either i directly quote Rs.1200 as the price or say the price is 1150 and the 'fee' is Rs.50 .
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1000
Landscaping Bitcoin for India!
I don't understand why buysellbitco has a 'fee' at all. Since price is being quoted by bitco itself whats the point in adding a 'fee' on top of the price you are selling at?

I would assume that separating them allows for better transparency and competitiveness on the API/ Price displays.
full member
Activity: 138
Merit: 100
I don't understand why buysellbitco has a 'fee' at all. Since price is being quoted by bitco itself whats the point in adding a 'fee' on top of the price you are selling at?
legendary
Activity: 1105
Merit: 1001
https://www.zebpay.com
Dear users,

Now book profit and pay lowest fees possible Smiley
We have reduced our fees for selling coins by 50%  Shocked

Now we charge you only 1.5% fees.

Oh and we make it more sweet... Your loyalty discount will still apply on this fees, so you can get as low as 0.75% fees on your sell orders.

So book profits now with lowest fees Smiley

Cheers,
BuySellBitco.in


Cheers....Is this a permanent change ? If it is, then it sure is a mark of a maturing industry.

It is not permanent change, we will see the response and will analyze it again on Thursday. If we get expected response we will surely make it permanent Smiley

Regards
member
Activity: 116
Merit: 10
Bitcoin Trading Platform
Dear users,

Now book profit and pay lowest fees possible Smiley
We have reduced our fees for selling coins by 50%  Shocked

Now we charge you only 1.5% fees.

Oh and we make it more sweet... Your loyalty discount will still apply on this fees, so you can get as low as 0.75% fees on your sell orders.

So book profits now with lowest fees Smiley

Cheers,
BuySellBitco.in


Cheers....Is this a permanent change ? If it is, then it sure is a mark of a maturing industry.
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