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member
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May 24, 2018, 06:06:38 PM
I'm sorry for those who have lost, it's hard to accept if everything is out. Good work is to move on, pray to God and God will heal you. try again! Do not lose hope to get up again.
newbie
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May 24, 2018, 05:50:18 PM
I'm gonna be honest with you all , i have been trading/investing since 2017.



I earned about 110.000 by trading and basically lost it all, i decided to sell the rest and just quit. I'm gonna explain why, this cryptocurrency market
is very manipulative and can easily be controlled and it will never stop. The icos/alts will always keep sucking all the btc cash so it will always be hard for btc to grow and
dominate.



This market is made to make money and profit from noobs it's like a bitconnect scheme. Every dollar that is made by someone, someone will lose money. Every dollar that
is made in this system will be sold to fiat and if there is low btc buy power it will mean that btc will only keep going down. This market is basically made to make
money from new users like a scheme. For example can you actually believe that if you would've put 10k usd into bitconnect you would have a monthly return of about 4500
every month by lending? This is unbelievably high which again means for every btc/dollar you lend out into this cryptocurrency system = someone will lose money that's
the main reason this market won't be there for long. Because it's basically a pyramid scheme.

You have done quite a great analysis but that is how the crypto market was meant to be. I really don't know why the coins are described to be volatile. If volatile then it means energy is and never returns. if the prices goes down there should be no rise again. I think its good to say unstable. Who ever manipulates the market is still unknown.
full member
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May 24, 2018, 05:33:45 PM
Market is very manipulative and if you didn't know how to ride on it then don't join, you must have a long term investment so that you will not have a lost on your investment.
newbie
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May 24, 2018, 05:19:39 PM
You miss the goal of cryptocurrency here, it is not some investment!.
Cryptocurrency was created to facilitate low fees, fast transaction time that no one can control. Not some buy and hold and profit.

Entering into a crypto currency world is just like a sacrificing yourself because we don't know if it is good or bad business we choice. If we invest, let us make sure that it is worth it so that nothing to be blamed.
hero member
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May 24, 2018, 05:12:33 PM
This guy is only looking to the crypto market in general as bitconnect. He will never understand what the crypto market is if he's only investing to bitconnect. He posted this on January and said that he decided to sell and just quit but look at his history, there's still an interest with other coins on February. The only thing that I can think of is this guy is spreading FUD.
full member
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May 24, 2018, 05:08:20 PM
If you are only trading since 2017. You are a newbie in trading industry. So why i would believed. I trade also since 2017. But i never experiece the lose that you experience.
full member
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May 24, 2018, 04:45:19 PM
I'm gonna be honest with you all , i have been trading/investing since 2017.



I earned about 110.000 by trading and basically lost it all, i decided to sell the rest and just quit. I'm gonna explain why, this cryptocurrency market
is very manipulative and can easily be controlled and it will never stop. The icos/alts will always keep sucking all the btc cash so it will always be hard for btc to grow and
dominate.



This market is made to make money and profit from noobs it's like a bitconnect scheme. Every dollar that is made by someone, someone will lose money. Every dollar that
is made in this system will be sold to fiat and if there is low btc buy power it will mean that btc will only keep going down. This market is basically made to make
money from new users like a scheme. For example can you actually believe that if you would've put 10k usd into bitconnect you would have a monthly return of about 4500
every month by lending? This is unbelievably high which again means for every btc/dollar you lend out into this cryptocurrency system = someone will lose money that's
the main reason this market won't be there for long. Because it's basically a pyramid scheme.

I think you were just Investng crypto without knowing the fact the certain uses of It, especially In bitcoin. Investing In crypto Is to risk you should know that before put your Investment here crypto. If I were you , I wonr quit rather than searching more and gather Information about crypto , so that we will fully understand how risk and how volatile the cryptocurrency.
newbie
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May 24, 2018, 04:07:38 PM
i would like to point out. active and passive management has always been statistically the exact same in the long term in terms of profit  (on average, excluding known successful full time traders).

one cannot say "Hedge Funds" advise this and that and they know its volatile. hedgefunds are a business, they buy risky assets because the people that gave them the money for it were seeking exactly that, complete loss of capital of 10x gain. so dont be worried about 50% and expec 200%, which is frankly nothing if you bought more now.

here you go, some more information about the fact that i have NEVER EVER seen A SINGLE asset which scores so high on every single investment metric.
Who give a fuck if you lose 100% if you stand a chance to win 1000%???

please dont be writing IN CAPITAL ON THE TITLE THAT YOU WILL SELL EVERYTHING. its unnecessary FUD really. the market is only 50-60% down -________________-



http://jai.iijournals.com/content/iijaltinv/20/3/16/F1.large.jpg?width=800&height=600&carousel=1
THE ONLY ONE ON THE EFFICIENT FRONTIER.
do you understand what this is? this means this is the holy grail of investments, literally.
if you really are an investor, make a portfolio of stock, bonds and crypto. 25% crypto will dramatically boost your returns by folds. and youll only stand to lose 12.5% if a crash like this happens again.
(for context, in the graph, gold has a worst risk return profile than sp500 because gold hold higher volatility for its given historical profit) understand this.
reference:
David LEE Kuo Chuen, Li Guo, Yu Wang
The Journal of Alternative Investments Dec 2017, 20 (3) 16-40; DOI: 10.3905/jai.2018.20.3.016
newbie
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May 24, 2018, 03:53:04 PM
DOES ANYONE HERE REALIZE HOW MANY TIMES BITCOIN LOST IN EXCESS OF 80% OF ITS VALUE?Huh

Your argument is invalid.
maybe you can changed your idea to (i cant wait long enough till i recover my initial amount)
this is because it might take 1-3 year to reach the highest top again based on easy to figure out pattern on the logarithmic chart of bitcoins price since the market has almost no efficiency at the moment. my Masters in investments in risk management thesis (8 months ago aprox) i tested for evidence of a weak form of efficiency.
online you can find some unpublished manuscripts regarding testing for strong form efficiency
all tests using Serial Correlation Coefficient and Run Tests (The Proven test methods for Market Efficiency in published literature) failed on bitcoin.
this is even more apparent when you have stuff like "the Korean Premium"

if you like it or not, it is here to stay, and anything less than 3 years from now cannot be judged and you might be on the losing side in the end by taking such an early decision.

check this:

📉 - 94% June-November 2011 from $32 to $2 because of MtGox hack

📉 - 36% June 2012 from $7 to $4 Linod hack

📉 - 79% April 2013 from $266 to $54. MTGox stopped trading

📉 - 87% from $1166 to $170 November 2013 to January 2015

📉 - 49% Feb 2014 MTGox tanks

📉 - 40% September 2017 from $5000 to $2972 China ban

📉 - 55% January 2018 Bitcoin ban FUD. from $19000 to 8500 (WE ARE HERE STILL) (July world powers meet to establish the first legislation regarding bitcoin, Nov US political events)

understand, we are nowhere near a crash at 50%, when bitcoins statistical monthly STDV is 65 fucking Percent (chance of losing 65% in a month).

while i am only a portfolio manager, i can still tell you, you lost your money EITHER way. and by that i mean your lost trades in any crypto must stay open till it recovers (assuming continuous development). so your money is tied up ANYWAY. all you can do now is BUY more some how some way. but quitting while your a little down makes you a loser.
good luck.



newbie
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May 24, 2018, 03:48:13 PM
I respect you but I am sure that there are a lot of traders and investors with much more experience and who has been trading since 199X and even earlier I mean stock market of course and much of them consider that crypto currency is quite attractive asset for long term investment.
hero member
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May 24, 2018, 03:42:49 PM
Actually you should know that in the world of trading has the risk of profit and loss, not only in trading but the investment world experienced it and I think it is certain and all experienced but to reduce the small risk, we must be able to set the benefits we will get will but we must be patient to make a profit. If you can rate the history of crypto coins then you can anticipate your losses, but if you can not judge the price of the coin then you will incur losses.
newbie
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May 24, 2018, 03:10:59 PM
 The best trading strategy for bitcoin over the long term is buying and holding. Relax man. We investing in future
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Pepemo.vip
May 24, 2018, 02:51:21 PM
Well, as we all know that crypto market is highly volatile, the crypto hedge fund managers recommend not to invest more than the loss-bearing capacity and to be precise, the max amount should be 2% of the total wealth. Further, one can invest money in the crypto market by reducing his regular expenditure because in that case, the loss won't be the actual loss for him. I respect the opinion of OP but still, I am optimistic about crypto down the road and I am hoping for the best and preparing for the worst-case scenario.
risky investments such as bitcoin, we should not use all our financial strength. if i think this way will keep psychologically still healthy, so if something bad happens we can still survive in meeting the needs of life
hero member
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May 24, 2018, 11:14:18 AM
Well, as we all know that crypto market is highly volatile, the crypto hedge fund managers recommend not to invest more than the loss-bearing capacity and to be precise, the max amount should be 2% of the total wealth. Further, one can invest money in the crypto market by reducing his regular expenditure because in that case, the loss won't be the actual loss for him. I respect the opinion of OP but still, I am optimistic about crypto down the road and I am hoping for the best and preparing for the worst-case scenario.
sr. member
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May 23, 2018, 02:23:06 PM
Feeling sorry about you, But i think you always have to start with low and have to learn some or gain experience before starting with a big investment. When i had started i don't put any capital just after i has started then, I just following signature campaign and wait for payouts. Just started with the payout got from signature campaign and now i have alot of currencies in my portfolio which i gain from trading and payout from signature campaign.

That is true, as what we have learned that is more than we wanted to reach our goal in life should be together with hardwork for us to harvest the fruit of working hard. That means you cannot directly invested into big but rather do a step by step procedure for you to be guided as well.You will be determined to pursue what you have started with open mind in the business just like mining, trading, and bounty campaigns.
sr. member
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January 28, 2018, 05:25:04 PM
of course bitcoin price is not stable and going dump  but some day bitcoin will be go in high price. not now I tink bitcoin needs more investor and user then bitcoin price is going impact value again
newbie
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January 28, 2018, 04:12:45 PM
This is because crypto is not for the faint-hearted...yes, I understand your perspective, but in the same time, not all ICOs are scams...some projects are really good and deserve attention and funding.
newbie
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January 28, 2018, 03:37:35 PM
I'm gonna be honest with you all , i have been trading/investing since 2017.



I earned about 110.000 by trading and basically lost it all, i decided to sell the rest and just quit. I'm gonna explain why, this cryptocurrency market
is very manipulative and can easily be controlled and it will never stop. The icos/alts will always keep sucking all the btc cash so it will always be hard for btc to grow and
dominate.



This market is made to make money and profit from noobs it's like a bitconnect scheme. Every dollar that is made by someone, someone will lose money. Every dollar that
is made in this system will be sold to fiat and if there is low btc buy power it will mean that btc will only keep going down. This market is basically made to make
money from new users like a scheme. For example can you actually believe that if you would've put 10k usd into bitconnect you would have a monthly return of about 4500
every month by lending? This is unbelievably high which again means for every btc/dollar you lend out into this cryptocurrency system = someone will lose money that's
the main reason this market won't be there for long. Because it's basically a pyramid scheme.
that's a bad idea, try to be patient until the price recovers so you do not regret why you are so pessimistic?
legendary
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January 28, 2018, 03:00:15 PM
You miss the goal of cryptocurrency here, it is not some investment!.
Cryptocurrency was created to facilitate low fees, fast transaction time that no one can control. Not some buy and hold and profit.
Of course cryptocurrencies themselves weren't created in order for people to just invest money in them, especially for a long term period. But it does happen afterall, investments pur in =)
Yes you’re right, Bitcoin was made to facilitate low fees and fast transaction time. But what makes you think that people won’t see it as an investment when the price is volatile as crazy. Take a look at PayPal, PayPal was meant just for making transactions and uses dollars, and it is not some kinda stuff you put money and it starts going up and down like crazy. So Bitcoin is not just for making transactions, it is also for making investment.

And now you are an expert because you are trading for a year.
I have been trading for 10 years in the stock market and trading a year in crypto. Winning and losing is always part of trading. If you lost your 110k the do not blame the market because you are the one who click the buy and sell button.
Eehm… dude, I think you’re wrong in this, cause what you are saying here is totally different from what everyone else is saying. You’re talking about trading, while everyone else is talking about whether Bitcoin is some kinda Ponzi scheme or what. Maybe you should read the op’s again.
sr. member
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January 28, 2018, 02:30:01 PM
If you are gonna quit then fine quit and just shut up about it because apparently most you are saying to bitcoin  is not true but I have to agree with you in ICO's are moslty true because many of them are created to trick other people in putting their money in their funds without getting something in return. But the same cannot be said so from bitcoin because it is not created to took advantage of someone's money is created to provide freedom in people's money because money in bitcoin  is mostly like the same as the money in stock market if you are an investor in the stock market.
Looks like my friend, you had enough of this garbage, people speeding FUDs and FOMOs about bitcoin. Well, it is not a new behaviors. And also having haters is an indication that bitcoin is doing something great. Let them say whatever they like to but if bitcoin was a scam, how could people earn money instead of losing it by buying bitcoin. It is just that they are jealous of this great crypto currency.
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