Topic: Selling 5 units from Avalon Batch #2 (3-module) - page 3. (Read 9103 times)
So much about this screams scam It's almost sad.
I didn't realize Chinese was a race... I thought it was a nationality...
Anyway authors for hundreds of years gave written about the different business practices in different parts of the globe
Anyway authors for hundreds of years gave written about the different business practices in different parts of the globe
I don't even know what that last statement meant?
Are you asking for $10,000 for one of your Avalon batch 2?
I will give you $10,000 if you use escrow.
Are you asking for $10,000 for one of your Avalon batch 2?
I will give you $10,000 if you use escrow.
Confirmed. Declare it in the form of auctions. Step Pobedetil $ 100 will be assigned to exactly one week to the highest price. If it is 2 winners then wins the one who had written the first. I need URGENT \ quickly sell these promises Avalon. (hedge my risk)
Hi! The complexity of the situation. I'll try to explain it. My sponsor has invested money in me. He was sure that I will be used when ordering PayPal. (Butterfly Lab.) But I have read the forum and understood that Butterfly can not be trusted. Therefore I invested in Avalon. And Avalon also holds (disruption of the schedule). Now my investor demands to open a Paypal dispute. And the return of the invested. I told him that I am in talks with the producer and the situation has some problems. But, if successful, will be a big profit. He trusts me. And now I'm starting to doubt.
The key question for me: I want to insure a risk that the Avalon runs from the ship (or something like that). How do escrow help me on this? If the devices are not delivered to me, the John K. did not transfer the funds to me.
But if the devices are already in my hands, then why should I insure the risks? (there will be no risk of running the ship Avalon). And I can sell them more expensive or mining them and selling coins.
I propose an intermediate version deal, which is like me and you might like. I paid 7 devices for $ 1,500 Total 10,500 USD 5 of them have been bought at the expense of the investor. 2 of them were bought by my own money and I'm ready to go all the way (to risk my money I can). $ 1500 multiplied by 5 equals $ 7,500 (total amount of my debt to the creditor). 2 pieces I already sold, there were 3 (revenue was 49,000 dollars) is more than cover the debt to the creditor ALREADY.
But I do not want to talk to my sponsor about what I got money and return back without profit. Because if the gains will be large, it will give me more money. (it will be credited me for a large amount). I think that if all the devices are selling expensive and bring him profit more than tripled invested, then I'll get it.
Now I'm starting to worry that not get ordered from Avalon.
So:
If you have delivered me from the risk of not delivering Avalon (not received). Having paid a net cost of all 7 pieces for the price of $ 1,500 (total cost of 10,500 dollars) in the form of irreversible prepayment, that I guarantee you for the remaining three units at $ 10,000 each (total price with huge discount of $ 30,000) and a deal with escrow.
Thoughts? Thank you. Sincerely.
Hi! The complexity of the situation. I'll try to explain it. My sponsor has invested money in me. He was sure that I will be used when ordering PayPal. (Butterfly Lab.) But I have read the forum and understood that Butterfly can not be trusted. Therefore I invested in Avalon. And Avalon also holds (disruption of the schedule). Now my investor demands to open a Paypal dispute. And the return of the invested. I told him that I am in talks with the producer and the situation has some problems. But, if successful, will be a big profit. He trusts me. And now I'm starting to doubt.
The key question for me: I want to insure a risk that the Avalon runs from the ship (or something like that). How do escrow help me on this? If the devices are not delivered to me, the John K. did not transfer the funds to me.
But if the devices are already in my hands, then why should I insure the risks? (there will be no risk of running the ship Avalon). And I can sell them more expensive or mining them and selling coins.
I propose an intermediate version deal, which is like me and you might like. I paid 7 devices for $ 1,500 Total 10,500 USD 5 of them have been bought at the expense of the investor. 2 of them were bought by my own money and I'm ready to go all the way (to risk my money I can). $ 1500 multiplied by 5 equals $ 7,500 (total amount of my debt to the creditor). 2 pieces I already sold, there were 3 (revenue was 49,000 dollars) is more than cover the debt to the creditor ALREADY.
But I do not want to talk to my sponsor about what I got money and return back without profit. Because if the gains will be large, it will give me more money. (it will be credited me for a large amount). I think that if all the devices are selling expensive and bring him profit more than tripled invested, then I'll get it.
Now I'm starting to worry that not get ordered from Avalon.
So:
If you have delivered me from the risk of not delivering Avalon (not received). Having paid a net cost of all 7 pieces for the price of $ 1,500 (total cost of 10,500 dollars) in the form of irreversible prepayment, that I guarantee you for the remaining three units at $ 10,000 each (total price with huge discount of $ 30,000) and a deal with escrow.
Thoughts? Thank you. Sincerely.
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Hi! The complexity of the situation. I'll try to explain it. My sponsor has invested money in me. He was sure that I will be used when ordering PayPal. (Butterfly Lab.) But I have read the forum and understood that Butterfly can not be trusted. Therefore I invested in Avalon. And Avalon also holds (disruption of the schedule). Now my investor demands to open a Paypal dispute. And the return of the invested. I told him that I am in talks with the producer and the situation has some problems. But, if successful, will be a big profit. He trusts me. And now I'm starting to doubt.
The key question for me: I want to insure a risk that the Avalon runs from the ship (or something like that). How do escrow help me on this? If the devices are not delivered to me, the John K. did not transfer the funds to me.
But if the devices are already in my hands, then why should I insure the risks? (there will be no risk of running the ship Avalon). And I can sell them more expensive or mining them and selling coins.
I propose an intermediate version deal, which is like me and you might like. I paid 7 devices for $ 1,500 Total 10,500 USD 5 of them have been bought at the expense of the investor. 2 of them were bought by my own money and I'm ready to go all the way (to risk my money I can). $ 1500 multiplied by 5 equals $ 7,500 (total amount of my debt to the creditor). 2 pieces I already sold, there were 3 (revenue was 49,000 dollars) is more than cover the debt to the creditor ALREADY.
But I do not want to talk to my sponsor about what I got money and return back without profit. Because if the gains will be large, it will give me more money. (it will be credited me for a large amount). I think that if all the devices are selling expensive and bring him profit more than tripled invested, then I'll get it.
Now I'm starting to worry that not get ordered from Avalon.
So:
If you have delivered me from the risk of not delivering Avalon (not received). Having paid a net cost of all 7 pieces for the price of $ 1,500 (total cost of 10,500 dollars) in the form of irreversible prepayment, that I guarantee you for the remaining three units at $ 10,000 each (total price with huge discount of $ 30,000) and a deal with escrow.
Thoughts? Thank you. Sincerely.
The key question for me: I want to insure a risk that the Avalon runs from the ship (or something like that). How do escrow help me on this? If the devices are not delivered to me, the John K. did not transfer the funds to me.
But if the devices are already in my hands, then why should I insure the risks? (there will be no risk of running the ship Avalon). And I can sell them more expensive or mining them and selling coins.
I propose an intermediate version deal, which is like me and you might like. I paid 7 devices for $ 1,500 Total 10,500 USD 5 of them have been bought at the expense of the investor. 2 of them were bought by my own money and I'm ready to go all the way (to risk my money I can). $ 1500 multiplied by 5 equals $ 7,500 (total amount of my debt to the creditor). 2 pieces I already sold, there were 3 (revenue was 49,000 dollars) is more than cover the debt to the creditor ALREADY.
But I do not want to talk to my sponsor about what I got money and return back without profit. Because if the gains will be large, it will give me more money. (it will be credited me for a large amount). I think that if all the devices are selling expensive and bring him profit more than tripled invested, then I'll get it.
Now I'm starting to worry that not get ordered from Avalon.
So:
If you have delivered me from the risk of not delivering Avalon (not received). Having paid a net cost of all 7 pieces for the price of $ 1,500 (total cost of 10,500 dollars) in the form of irreversible prepayment, that I guarantee you for the remaining three units at $ 10,000 each (total price with huge discount of $ 30,000) and a deal with escrow.
Thoughts? Thank you. Sincerely.
This reminds me of the time when I bought iphones on alibaba.com which were coming straight from the factory....
I send the money got a tracking number and package was send to wrong address and went back to the wrong address ... perfect scam as it was bouncing around I realized I was a fool..
5 years later ppl still doing same thing it appears except I lost $400 on supposedly 2 iPhone's lol
I send the money got a tracking number and package was send to wrong address and went back to the wrong address ... perfect scam as it was bouncing around I realized I was a fool..
5 years later ppl still doing same thing it appears except I lost $400 on supposedly 2 iPhone's lol
Yet another preorder was sold today at the price of USD 23,000 Liberty Reserve, thank you very much!
I am committed to deliver the sold when they are in my hands as quickly as possible.
in the first sale the buyer will take my device personally.
Left: 3 pieces (pre-order)
I am committed to deliver the sold when they are in my hands as quickly as possible.
in the first sale the buyer will take my device personally.
Left: 3 pieces (pre-order)
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UPDATE
1 pre-order today was sold for $ 26,000 at an average rate of BTC for today, thank you!
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I'm very interested in the sale of all units in one hand.
But
I am afraid a personal meeting (something like getting hit on the head and losing all device), but I can arrange a meeting with my representative (assistant) which will give you a pre-paid devices That's why I preferred to prepayment. It is also the insurance risk for me in case of Avalon is not delivered.
A huge number of proposals makes it possible for me to sell a version of it that way. If I can not sell the rest of it's okay, I'll be on their mining.
Price in BTC is a simple way: ''24h Avg'' at http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/ (mtGox today)
Just remind you that I still do not have the device on my hands. Only order on batch#2
Best regards.
1 pre-order today was sold for $ 26,000 at an average rate of BTC for today, thank you!
Left 4
I'm very interested in the sale of all units in one hand.
But
I am afraid a personal meeting (something like getting hit on the head and losing all device), but I can arrange a meeting with my representative (assistant) which will give you a pre-paid devices That's why I preferred to prepayment. It is also the insurance risk for me in case of Avalon is not delivered.
A huge number of proposals makes it possible for me to sell a version of it that way. If I can not sell the rest of it's okay, I'll be on their mining.
Price in BTC is a simple way: ''24h Avg'' at http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/ (mtGox today)
Just remind you that I still do not have the device on my hands. Only order on batch#2
Best regards.
What part of China are you located in? I will be in HK, Beijing, Shanghai, and Shenyang for business in about 2 weeks.
I'm interested in 2 of the devices, but I would need to see them working (in person). In addition, I will not pay cash for these (won't carry that much in person), so we will need to use some other form of internationally accepted payment (preference?)
I will require paperwork for the machines showing their original cost so there are no issues w/customs (will likely need to declare them entering the US - or might ship them back from HKG or Tokyo, depending on weight/ease of delivery).
- DeveloperFish
I'm interested in 2 of the devices, but I would need to see them working (in person). In addition, I will not pay cash for these (won't carry that much in person), so we will need to use some other form of internationally accepted payment (preference?)
I will require paperwork for the machines showing their original cost so there are no issues w/customs (will likely need to declare them entering the US - or might ship them back from HKG or Tokyo, depending on weight/ease of delivery).
- DeveloperFish
Please wait, i am negotiating to sell all five device in one hand, for me, the most preferred is such a deal.
just get a friend in china to verify the package is there. or for that amount of money just FLY to china
Interested.
Any units left?
Any units left?
Racist much? 
Culturally aware. 
Not interested.
Westerners cannot comprehend the complete lack of what we would call "ethics" or "guilt" in China, where defrauding someone is a win. Joining a forum and three days later trying to bilk people for $25000, par for the course.
Well articulated here:
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/02/25/fake-walnuts-filled-with-rocks-sold-in-china/
http://petapixel.com/2011/05/20/one-third-of-the-sandisk-memory-cards-on-earth-are-counterfeit/
https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/cpi/documents/commentary-reports/peter-humphrey-chinas-booming-fraud-industry.pdf
Westerners cannot comprehend the complete lack of what we would call "ethics" or "guilt" in China, where defrauding someone is a win. Joining a forum and three days later trying to bilk people for $25000, par for the course.
Well articulated here:
I lived in Asia for two years and traveled extensively throughout the region. I speak a fair amount of Mandarin (Chinese), and I've interacted with lots and lots of people from China, Hong Kong and Taiwan. ...
In China, there is no sense of responsibility to customers. The overriding philosophy is to screw the customer, even on the very first order, knowing that the customer will never buy from you again! In China, the idea is to CHEAT people rather than make them happy. You see this all the way to the top of the government which is, of course, a police state communist regime where laws are enforced at gunpoint against a completely disarmed and helpless population that has no rights. China is a culture of corruption, deception and exploitation.
In China, there is no sense of responsibility to customers. The overriding philosophy is to screw the customer, even on the very first order, knowing that the customer will never buy from you again! In China, the idea is to CHEAT people rather than make them happy. You see this all the way to the top of the government which is, of course, a police state communist regime where laws are enforced at gunpoint against a completely disarmed and helpless population that has no rights. China is a culture of corruption, deception and exploitation.
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/02/25/fake-walnuts-filled-with-rocks-sold-in-china/
http://petapixel.com/2011/05/20/one-third-of-the-sandisk-memory-cards-on-earth-are-counterfeit/
https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/cpi/documents/commentary-reports/peter-humphrey-chinas-booming-fraud-industry.pdf
hahaha, that is some stupid shit right there. Us westerners aren't used to people without ethics defrauding others? What world do you live in? Were you joking and I'm too tired to get it?
Not interested.
Westerners cannot comprehend the complete lack of what we would call "ethics" or "guilt" in China, where defrauding someone is a win. Joining a forum and three days later trying to bilk people for $25000, par for the course.
Well articulated here:
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/02/25/fake-walnuts-filled-with-rocks-sold-in-china/
http://petapixel.com/2011/05/20/one-third-of-the-sandisk-memory-cards-on-earth-are-counterfeit/
https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/cpi/documents/commentary-reports/peter-humphrey-chinas-booming-fraud-industry.pdf
Westerners cannot comprehend the complete lack of what we would call "ethics" or "guilt" in China, where defrauding someone is a win. Joining a forum and three days later trying to bilk people for $25000, par for the course.
Well articulated here:
I lived in Asia for two years and traveled extensively throughout the region. I speak a fair amount of Mandarin (Chinese), and I've interacted with lots and lots of people from China, Hong Kong and Taiwan. ...
In China, there is no sense of responsibility to customers. The overriding philosophy is to screw the customer, even on the very first order, knowing that the customer will never buy from you again! In China, the idea is to CHEAT people rather than make them happy. You see this all the way to the top of the government which is, of course, a police state communist regime where laws are enforced at gunpoint against a completely disarmed and helpless population that has no rights. China is a culture of corruption, deception and exploitation.
In China, there is no sense of responsibility to customers. The overriding philosophy is to screw the customer, even on the very first order, knowing that the customer will never buy from you again! In China, the idea is to CHEAT people rather than make them happy. You see this all the way to the top of the government which is, of course, a police state communist regime where laws are enforced at gunpoint against a completely disarmed and helpless population that has no rights. China is a culture of corruption, deception and exploitation.
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/02/25/fake-walnuts-filled-with-rocks-sold-in-china/
http://petapixel.com/2011/05/20/one-third-of-the-sandisk-memory-cards-on-earth-are-counterfeit/
https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/cpi/documents/commentary-reports/peter-humphrey-chinas-booming-fraud-industry.pdf
Racist much?
In case you didn't notice this, many things around us are made in China - including the Avalons he's selling here.
Ah, not deleted, it looks like I have filtered out Local / Новички and other local boards, I didn't realize this setting would be applied to "show posts by user" on this forum.
Wow, pull a few links and paint an entire race. If you checked his previous posts you would see he's been posting in Russian. Maybe you need to go find some new links?
I can't check his previous posts, he deleted the 20 posts that he made in three days.
Wow, pull a few links and paint an entire race. If you checked his previous posts you would see he's been posting in Russian. Maybe you need to go find some new links?
I can't check his previous posts, he deleted the 20 posts that he made in three days. Jump to: